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Pope Francis Meets Evangelical Delegation
TruNews ^ | June 27, 2014 | Rick Wiles

Posted on 06/27/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by NYer

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By Rick Wiles | June 27, 2014

Two prominent Fort Worth-based Christian ministers led a delegation of Evangelical Christian leaders to Rome to meet privately with Pope Francis.

James and Betty Robison, co-hosts of the Life Today television program, and Kenneth Copeland, co-host of Believer’s Voice of Victory, met the Roman Pontiff at the Vatican on Tuesday. The meeting lasted almost three hours and included a private luncheon with Pope Francis.

Mr. Robison told the Fort Worth Star Telegram, “This meeting was a miracle…. This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.”

Mr. Robison said he was impressed by Pope Francis’ humility and courtesy to the visiting delegation of Evangelical Protestant Christian leaders.

In a written statement, Mr. Robison said he believes “the prayers of earnest Christians helped lead to the choice of Pope Francis.” He described Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the Argentine Archbishop chosen as Pope, as “a humble man…filled with such love for the poor, downtrodden…”

In addition to Mrs. Betty Robison, the high-profile Protestant delegation included Kenneth Copeland, co-founder of Kenneth Copeland Ministries in Newark, TX; Reverend Geoff Tunnicliff, CEO of the World Evangelical Alliance; Rev. Brian Stiller and Rev. Thomas Schirrmacher, also from the World Evangelical Alliance; and Rev. John Arnott and his wife, Carol, co-founders of Partners for Harvest ministries in Toronto, Canada. Gloria Copeland did not travel to Rome because of a previously scheduled commitment.

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The ecumenical meeting in Rome was organized by Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer. Rev. Palmer is an ordained bishop in the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, a break-away alliance of charismatic Anglican-Episcopal churches. Bishop Palmer is also the Director of The Ark Community, an international interdenominational Convergent Church online community, and is a member of the Roman Catholic Ecumenical Delegation for Christian Unity and Reconciliation.

Bishop Palmer developed a friendship with Pope Francis when the future Roman Pontiff was a Catholic official in Argentina. Prior to becoming a CEEC bishop, Rev. Palmer was the director of the Kenneth Copeland Ministries’ office in South Africa. He is married to an Italian Roman Catholic woman. He later moved to Italy and began working to reconcile Roman Catholics and Protestants. Kenneth Copeland Ministries was one of Mr. Palmer’s first financial contributors over 10 years ago in support of his ecumenical work in Italy.

Earlier this year, Pope Francis called Bishop Palmer to invite him to his residence in Vatican City. During the meeting, Bishop Palmer suggested that the Pope record a personal greeting on Mr. Palmer’s iPhone to be delivered to Kenneth Copeland. Mr. Copeland showed the Papal video greeting to a conference of Protestant ministers who were meeting at Mr. Copeland’s Eagle Mountain International Church near Fort Worth, TX. In the video, Pope Francis expressed his desire for Christian unity with Protestants.

Later, James Robison telecasted the video on his daily TV program, Life Today. “The pope, in the video, expressed a desire for Protestants and Catholics to become what Jesus prayed for — that Christians would become family and not be divided,” Mr. Robison said the response to the video was very positive, and that Pope Francis asked Bishop Palmer whether a meeting could be arranged with Evangelical Protestants seeking Christian unity in the world.

In his written statement released after the Papal meeting, Mr. Robison said he was “blessed to be part of perhaps an unprecedented moment between evangelicals and the Catholic Pope.” He described the Protestant delegation’s private meeting with the leader of the Roman Catholic Church as “an intimate circle of prayerful discussion and lunch to discuss not only seeing Jesus’ prayer answered, but that every believer would become a bold, joy-filled witnesses for Christ.

In describing the ecumenical gathering as a miracle, Mr. Robison said, “This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.”

During the luncheon on Tuesday, Mr. Robison got a high-five from Pope Francis after the Pope and Protestant guests talked about the need for all people to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. According to the Life Today host, the Roman Pontiff did not know what a high-five was until Bishop Palmer explained it to him in Italian. Mr. Robison said, “The Pope made it very clear that he wanted every believer to become Spirit-filled, joy-filled witnesses.”

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Mr. Robison said Pope Francis had written recently, “Too many Catholics look like they’ve been to Lent with no Easter. It’s a mistake for them to look like they’ve been to a funeral” as he challenged Catholics to witness and never try to control the Holy Spirit, but yield to Him.

Mr. Robison said he received a divine call from God to seek Christian unity while he was hospitalized several years ago with a serious staph infection following hip surgery. Robison recalled, “[I] was so weak I could not lift a cup of water to my lips…God got my full attention…He spoke to me through Isaiah 58:6-12 and I saw the importance of living in freedom, touching the suffering, the hungry, poor, and downtrodden. I recognized the promise that our prayers would be answered quickly and we would become a free-flowing stream and a well-watered garden, restoring the foundations upon which we must build. During that time God instructed me to focus my attention on Jesus’ prayer and encouraging others to begin fulfilling it through us in our day.”

During that time, he said, he was impressed by a prayer of Jesus in John 17:21, pleading that all Christian believers be one. “We’ve tried to focus on being an answer to Jesus’ prayer,” Robison said. “We want to see Jesus’ prayer for unity answered in our day.”

Aware that the meeting with the Pope will be troublesome among staunch Protestants, Mr. Robison said he and the other visiting Evangelical Christian leaders talked about diversity and their belief that Roman Catholics and Protestants could work together without compromising their beliefs.

“The world is suffering,” said Robison. “We as Christians have too much love to share without fighting one another.”

Mr. Robison said he and other “respected Evangelical leaders and Spirit-filled Catholics began meeting together to pray for God’s will to be done and to bring true believers together in supernatural unity….We have been commanded to love God with all of our heart and our neighbors as ourselves. The enemy has kept many Christians from loving one another as Christ loves us and have failed to recognize the importance of supernatural unity even with all of the unique diversity.”

Mr. Robison, whose ministry digs water wells and supplies food for impoverished people in third-world nations, recounted that he was christened as a fatherless boy in an Episcopal Church. As an adult, he joined the Southern Baptist Church. In the 1980s, he became one of the first prominent Southern Baptist ministers to openly proclaim he had received the baptism o


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1 posted on 06/27/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/27/2014 3:58:58 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

I pray for the reunion of the entire catholic church every morning! Let’s hope all people of good will can respond to God’s call every day.

It was good to a positive meeting, with Jesus being the subject.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 4:06:27 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo

AMEN!

” That all will be ONE “.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 4:39:01 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

I wonder if they asked that eternal question: do you guys worship statues?


5 posted on 06/27/2014 4:45:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: NYer; Biggirl

“The world is suffering,” said Robison. “We as Christians have too much love to share without fighting one another.”

Amen to that.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 4:46:15 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: miss marmelstein; NYer

I would expect Moslems to ask the statue question, not this group who met with the Pope.


7 posted on 06/27/2014 4:48:42 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Biggirl; SpirituTuo
And here it seems opportune to expound and to refute a certain false opinion, on which this whole question, as well as that complex movement by which non-Catholics seek to bring about the union of the Christian churches depends. For authors who favor this view are accustomed, times almost without number, to bring forward these words of Christ: "That they all may be one.... And there shall be one fold and one shepherd,"[14] with this signification however: that Christ Jesus merely expressed a desire and prayer, which still lacks its fulfillment. For they are of the opinion that the unity of faith and government, which is a note of the one true Church of Christ, has hardly up to the present time existed, and does not to-day exist.

Above stated by Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos, On Religious Unity, 1928.

8 posted on 06/27/2014 4:52:01 PM PDT by piusv
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To: NYer

Didn’t the women know they were to wear chapel veils and be dressed in black?


9 posted on 06/27/2014 4:52:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: miss marmelstein
"I wonder if they asked that eternal question: do you guys worship statues?"

HaHa. No, they're more sophisticated than that. They realize we now worship felt banners.

10 posted on 06/27/2014 4:59:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Really.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL! Boy, give me the statues over the banners any day!


11 posted on 06/27/2014 5:01:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: NYer
“The world is suffering,” said Robison. “We as Christians have too much love to share without fighting one another.”

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Amen.

12 posted on 06/27/2014 5:05:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salvation

Maybe not. I did think that they were nicely dressed, though.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 5:06:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GreyFriar

Amen and AMEN.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 5:27:24 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SpirituTuo
I pray for the reunion of the entire catholic church every morning!

What is you definition of "the entire catholic church"?

Do you not recite the Nicene Creed at your Masses?

How are Evangelicals "apostolic"?

15 posted on 06/27/2014 5:36:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Salvation; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
Didn’t the women know they were to wear chapel veils and be dressed in black?

They must have received a special dispensation, since the pope have power he can exercise unhindered, regardless of what was once required or exhorted.

The levitous coziness with the pope here indicts such ministers as serious compromisers with Truth, and the pope as conveying sanction of what in the past would be deplored.

No one shall join in prayers with heretics or schismatics. - Council of Laodicea, can. 33.

Do not converse with heretics even for the sake of defending the faith, for fear lest their words instil their poison in your mind. Bl. Isaias Boner of Krakow (Polish, Augus tinian priest, theologian, professor of Scripture, d. 1471)

“the Church forbids the faithful to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith they once received, either by corrupting the faith, as heretics, or by entirely renouncing the faith, as apostates, because the Church pronounces sentence of excommunication on both.” St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica; http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3010.htm

Pope Leo X: That it is against the will of the Spirit to burn heretics at the stake is condemned as false. (Pope Leo X, “Exsurge Domino,” 1520)


Pope Innocent IV, Ad extirpanda: The head of state or ruler must force all the heretics whom he has in custody,{8} provided he does so without killing them or breaking their arms or legs,as actual robbers and murderers of souls and thieves of the sacraments of God and Christian faith, to confess their errors and accuse other heretics whom they know, and specify their motives, {9} and those whom they have seduced, and those who have lodged them and defended them,as thieves and robbers of material goods are made to accuse their accomplices and confess the crimes they have committed. 

Those convicted of heresy by the aforesaid Diocesan Bishop,surrogate or inquisitors, shall be taken in shackles to the head of state or ruler or his special representative, instantly,or at least within five days, and the latter shall apply the regulations promulgated against such persons...- http://userwww.sfsu.edu/%7Edraker/history/Ad_Extirpanda.html

16 posted on 06/27/2014 6:09:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: NYer

About Tony Palmer: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2014/02/tony-palmer-the-new-face-of-anglicanism.html

And this has been in the works for some time:
Pope Francis sends video greetings to Kenneth Copeland (Feb. 2014): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4EPOfic5A


17 posted on 06/27/2014 6:12:20 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: daniel1212

I doubt that dispensations are granted.

This is just the proper protocol for people meeting the Pope.

You do realize, I hope, that he is trying to bring people back into the Church, don’t you?


18 posted on 06/27/2014 6:20:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: daniel1212

Duplicitous comes to mind.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 6:28:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Salvation
Didn’t the women know they were to wear chapel veils and be dressed in black?


20 posted on 06/27/2014 6:29:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: daniel1212; piusv

I have to question the wisdom of a man who would associate with Ken Copeland.

Add that to his recent islam fiasco and I’ll tell you, he’s absolutely lacking in discernment.


21 posted on 06/27/2014 6:33:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

That ought to do it.


22 posted on 06/27/2014 6:40:42 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: piusv

I am not familiar with the quotation or document, so I must read it. Thank you for posting it.


23 posted on 06/27/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

I pray that all people will come to fullness of belief that God has given us.


24 posted on 06/27/2014 7:06:07 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: metmom

I guess you don’t know what a chapel veil is.


25 posted on 06/27/2014 7:08:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SpirituTuo

When you say, “us”, whom are you referring to?


26 posted on 06/27/2014 7:12:03 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: metmom

27 posted on 06/27/2014 7:15:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; NYer

“Didn’t the women know they were to wear chapel veils and be dressed in black?”

Why?


28 posted on 06/27/2014 7:23:16 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: metmom; Salvation

LOL!


29 posted on 06/27/2014 7:28:05 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: piusv
"That they all may be one.... And there shall be one fold and one shepherd,

Jesus

30 posted on 06/27/2014 7:29:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Salvation; metmom

That a selfie, Salvation?


31 posted on 06/27/2014 7:29:58 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: NYer; SpirituTuo
Mr. Robison said he and the other visiting Evangelical Christian leaders talked about diversity and their belief that Roman Catholics and Protestants could work together without compromising their beliefs.

Then what's the purpose of ecumenism?

32 posted on 06/27/2014 7:31:12 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: GeronL

They already are one; it’s called the Catholic Church which has one shepherd.


33 posted on 06/27/2014 7:32:57 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is it Jesus?

All Christians are one flock and have Jesus as our shepherd


34 posted on 06/27/2014 7:34:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

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35 posted on 06/27/2014 7:42:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
You do realize, I hope, that he is trying to bring people back into the Church, don’t you?

I have not seen any evidence of this Pope trying to convert non-Catholics. Could you please give some examples, if you can?

I have not seen him doing it during with his meetings with Jews, or Muslims, or Protestants. He certainly didn't do it this past Pentecost, which would have been the most opportune date, to invoke the Holy Ghost, to preach the Gospel of Christ to all nations. Have I missed something?

36 posted on 06/27/2014 7:45:07 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: GeronL
All Christians are one flock and have Jesus as our shepherd

And some of those christians are heretics and schismatics.

37 posted on 06/27/2014 7:46:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Some of those institutions are corrupt and self-loving


38 posted on 06/27/2014 7:49:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I’m glad you used the word “some”, because there is only One True Church.


39 posted on 06/27/2014 7:55:48 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Contact and invite.

The two steps of evangelization.

All we are seeing at this point is the contact with others of other religions.

I haven’t read anywhere about him inviting people to come back to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. But it is the next step for anyone who attempts to evangelize.

On a personal level, I have found that it pays to make friends with people before I invite them to do something with me, like join a Catholic women’s group or pray for vocations.

It takes time and patience.....Catholics are just now learning how to do this.


40 posted on 06/27/2014 8:00:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

lol


41 posted on 06/27/2014 8:01:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ebb tide

** He certainly didn’t do it this past Pentecost, which would have been the most opportune date, to invoke the Holy Ghost, to preach the Gospel of Christ to all nations. Have I missed something?**

I have the feeling (really judgment) that this will come.


42 posted on 06/27/2014 8:01:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I used to wear one when they were required for mass when I was a kid pre V2.

I know what they are.

I think you missed the point.


43 posted on 06/27/2014 8:07:08 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

You got it.


44 posted on 06/27/2014 8:07:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation
It takes time and patience.....Catholics are just now learning how to do this.

And non-Catholics have been doing it for decades at least.

45 posted on 06/27/2014 8:09:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation
All we are seeing at this point is the contact with others of other religions.

At this point? Catholics have been in contact with other religions for 2000 years; and because of that the Church has converted nations and even a continent. Yet now, thanks to VC II, "Catholics are just now learning how to do this". And that continent, South America, which was once solidly Catholic, has become a frenzied feeding ground for the evangelicals that the Pope has just hosted and high-fived.

46 posted on 06/27/2014 8:12:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You’re correct on the fact that Catholics have been doing this for a long time.

But in the U. S. I think we are just learning.

You are also correct about the frenzy to usurp Catholicism. We need to learn how to defend ourselves when other proselytizers approach us..


47 posted on 06/27/2014 8:30:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear; ...
You are also correct about the frenzy to usurp Catholicism.

So do you really think that Catholicism is in charge of something that someone is trying to usurp it?

What a joke.

Most all Christians I know just want to be left alone and that means not having the Catholic church try to claim or assert authority over all other Christian denominations.

The Catholic church can have at it with authority for those who willingly place themselves under it.

But when push comes to shove and Catholics are calling for a Catholic monarchy, they can go pound sand.

48 posted on 06/27/2014 9:06:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

bump


49 posted on 06/27/2014 9:12:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ebb tide
I’m glad you used the word “some”, because there is only One True Church.

Glad to see it happening...I support the idea...The One World Gov't is coming along nicely right beside the One World Religion...The common denominator for the religion is the Queen of Heaven...

50 posted on 06/27/2014 9:28:23 PM PDT by Iscool
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