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Black Christians and the Myth of Prosperity Preaching
American Thinker ^ | 07/20/2014 | Patricia L. Dickson

Posted on 07/20/2014 7:03:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

With the in-your-face display of greed and arrogance of the so-called pastors on the reality show Preachers of L.A., I began to wonder: when will black Christians wake up and say enough is enough?  Although there are some white pastors of mega-churches who have a net worth of almost triple their congregants as well, I want to focus on the plight of the black saints who sit under the ministry of black pastors (and some white pastors) Sunday after Sunday and continue to live paycheck to paycheck.

After some years of attending mega-churches pastored by both black and white men and their wives, I begin to notice a trend.  These pastors would always tell their congregation – mostly non-college-educated and barely surviving members – that the way to prosperity is through tithing.  Tithing was the only means to prosperity taught by these pastors.  In fact, the reason for all that ailed the saints (hard times, sickness, and lack) was non-tithing (i.e., theft of God’s money).  Not having a college education during the majority of those years, I felt guilty if I found myself in a situation where I could not tithe on certain Sundays.  I would hear the pastors say, use your rent or utility bill money and pay your tithe; God will make sure your bills are paid.  I would blame God when my bills went unpaid instead of blaming the pastors (or myself for listening to the them).

After I completed a couple of degrees and began associating with a group of financially intelligent individuals, I started to learn and apply sound financial principles.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackchristians; blackchurch; christianity; homiletics; megachurches; preaching; prosperity; protestantism; tithe; tithing

1 posted on 07/20/2014 7:03:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Make sure you tithe your welfare check.


2 posted on 07/20/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: SeekAndFind
"Use the rent" for tithing??

Sounds like the minister wants a caddy for his birthday.

3 posted on 07/20/2014 7:12:53 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind
when will black Christians wake up and say enough is enough?

I would say the answer is "never".

4 posted on 07/20/2014 7:22:50 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“....on many occasions the pastors would mock the members who did have college degrees....”

sooprise sooprise


5 posted on 07/20/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

It is not just African American ‘preachers’ who suffer from this (and their congregations). one need only look to Oral Roberts, Jim Bakker, The Crouches ( to name a few) to see that this notion has been pushed for all too long.

I still remember one time hearing Oral Roberts talking about tithing and he likened God to a Coke machine. Oral said he put money in the Coke machine and he got a Coke in return. He gave the church (notice not God but the church) money and he got money back from God as a blessing.

I shook my head and never listened again


6 posted on 07/20/2014 7:33:46 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard quite a few white preachers push th e”prosperity” gospel. I remember years ago when some ner-do-well borrowed lost of money, gave it to his Prosperity church and expected a 100 fold payback.

It didn’t work.


7 posted on 07/20/2014 7:46:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

**I also realized that my pastors never mentioned education or investments (other than investing in the kingdom of God) as a means to acquire wealth.**

Mentioned in connection with Dave Ramsey’s financial planning class at our Church.


8 posted on 07/20/2014 7:49:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember listing to a black woman preacher on a black radio station. she promised to remove curses, hoodoos and voodoos and make your love life better.

All you had to do was send her TEN DOLLARS, and she would send you a little doll. You then pin a 10 dollar bill to the doll, then after a week, send that ten dollar bill to her, and as the bill is sent through the mail the curse would go with the money away form the person who felt cursed.

You had to do this for several months to remove all the curses, hoodoos and voodoos.


9 posted on 07/20/2014 7:54:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Years ago, when Obama’s black pastor of 20 some years, Jeremiah Wright, was in the news, I thought I had read that he was retiring to a newly built 10,000 sq/ft home in a gated community which was mostly white.

I don’t know if he preached about prosperity but the victim hood and resentment against white people (and I think he’s half white, just like Obama) sure seems to have paid well for him.


10 posted on 07/20/2014 7:56:52 AM PDT by bluedogpdx
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To: bluedogpdx

Where’s Rev. Ike when you need him!


11 posted on 07/20/2014 8:08:37 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Nifster

Very few teach from the Bible. There is on guy, MM, on tv. When I come across him I quickly change the channel.


12 posted on 07/20/2014 8:37:00 AM PDT by MamaB (Ndd)
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To: Gamecock; metmom
After some years of attending mega-churches pastored by both black and white men and their wives, I begin to notice a trend. These pastors would always tell their congregation – mostly non-college-educated and barely surviving members – that the way to prosperity is through tithing. Tithing was the only means to prosperity taught by these pastors. In fact, the reason for all that ailed the saints (hard times, sickness, and lack) was non-tithing (i.e., theft of God’s money).

Ping!

13 posted on 07/20/2014 8:43:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: cloudmountain

“Sounds like the minister wants a caddy for his birthday. “

No, I think his current jet is getting old and he needs a new one.


14 posted on 07/20/2014 8:53:26 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“It didn’t work.”

Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?


15 posted on 07/20/2014 8:55:28 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just because somebody didn’t dump a truckload of money on the writer of this article, that is NOT PROOF that God doesn’t meet needs (not wants).

Jesus made the most important statement to a man who ran up to him in the street, begging Jesus to come and heal his daughter. The man’s neighbors all scoffed at him and told him to leave Jesus alone because the daughter was already dead. However, immediately, Jesus looked directly at the man and said, “ONLY BELIEVE”. The man ran back to his home and waited for Jesus to come. Jesus did come and after laying hands on the little girl, she was fully recovered.

For me, that has been the key .. to self-sustaining income, plus miracles of healing .. because I was willing to “only believe”.


16 posted on 07/20/2014 8:57:48 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Ticket to Heaven” by Dire Straits.


17 posted on 07/20/2014 9:00:14 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: MamaB

Who is this MM you speak of? The reason I ask is I prefer to be able to skip by rather than have to longer for a while trying to discern the information.

appreciate it and thanks ahead of time


18 posted on 07/20/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

If the guy had to get past grade school to figure that out it must be more confusing than I thought it was.


19 posted on 07/20/2014 9:02:30 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Alex Murphy

You’re right.

It happens in smaller churches too.

Fleecing the flock by appealing to one’s lust of the flesh.


20 posted on 07/20/2014 9:06:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind

"Counting up the dough / Counting up the dough / We shall come rejoicing / Counting up the dough!"

21 posted on 07/20/2014 9:06:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: CyberAnt
Just because somebody didn’t dump a truckload of money on the writer of this article, that is NOT PROOF that God doesn’t meet needs (not wants).

Nobody said that at all.

That's not what the article is about. Try re-reading it, if you read it through in the first place.

22 posted on 07/20/2014 9:12:34 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It works for Mormons, tithing is mandatory in Mormonism and is verified every two years, if you fall short, then you are kicked down to the normal Mormons and can only attend the plain church buildings and are forbidden entrance into the Holy Temples and the secrets and relationships therein.


23 posted on 07/20/2014 10:21:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Nifster

I’m not the person you asked, I believe MM is Mike Murdock.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 10:48:03 AM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom

Tithing is the way to prosperity.....for the pastors!


25 posted on 07/20/2014 11:10:55 AM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“....on many occasions the pastors would mock the members who did have college degrees....”


That is generally the case, college kids are never prepared for some one who is half way smart.


26 posted on 07/20/2014 11:14:50 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually my finances began to straighten out after I began tithing. No one told me to tithe. It was my own decision from my own study.


27 posted on 07/20/2014 11:30:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Gamecock

Yeah, it depends on if you’re on the giving or receiving end of things.


28 posted on 07/20/2014 11:50:49 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: arthurus

That’s different than giving to gain.

If you’re just giving to get something in return and not out of conviction because God wants you to, I can’t see why God would honor that.


29 posted on 07/20/2014 11:52:01 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: catnipman
“Sounds like the minister wants a caddy for his birthday. “

No, I think his current jet is getting old and he needs a new one.

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GOOD ONE!

30 posted on 07/20/2014 12:56:20 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

“GOOD ONE!”

I’ll have to confess it’s a line from the John Grisham movie “The Rainmaker”.


31 posted on 07/20/2014 7:46:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In the small Southern Baptist churches I have attended since becoming a Christian I have not seen this type of preaching. I have seen the tithing preaching, but not associated with becoming wealthy. This article was painting with a broad brush and preaching moral relativism.


32 posted on 07/20/2014 8:32:32 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Just what is the real reason to disarm a law abiding citizen like me?)
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To: SeekAndFind; GeronL

“I want to focus on the plight of the black saints who sit under the ministry of black pastors (and some white pastors) Sunday after Sunday and continue to live paycheck to paycheck.”

Yes I know about this too! I’m currently helping one of those pastors by rounding up (used) clothing, for him, when ever I can. It sickens me to see those TV preachers with their million dollar suits begging for more. I wish more could see through the scam. Help your local pastor even if it means all you can do is donate or find a clothing bank to give him clothing. Or what ever else he (or his family) needs. BTW I’m not even a member of his church.


33 posted on 07/20/2014 10:53:17 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

bump!


34 posted on 07/20/2014 10:56:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: arthurus
Actually my finances began to straighten out after I began tithing. No one told me to tithe. It was my own decision from my own study.

Tithing does two things...one it follows the Biblical command to tithe/bring an offering to the storehouse. This was started in the OT and continues over to the NT. Second, when we tithe we also are putting our finances in order. Often, there is a realocation of the budget, which for most of us is fixed, in order to be able to tithe.

Sadly, a lot of churches today do not teach proper Biblical tithing. Many treat God like an investment firm.

I tell people who believe that if God is an investment firm and you put money in you get money out, then Paul got ripped off. He gave up everything he had to follow Christ. He was not a wealthy man, at least from a dollars perspective, from what we can tell. But think of the other riches he had/has.

True treasures are in Heaven.

35 posted on 07/21/2014 6:40:45 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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