Posted on 07/26/2014 3:26:40 PM PDT by ebb tide
The three most radical proposals are:
1) A new “pastoral solution” to allow divorce and remarried Catholics to receive Holy Communion;
2) A new “pastoral approach” that permits the baptism of children from same-sex couples, thus indirectly legitimizing these unions;
3) A recasting of natural law in “new language”, which threatens to undermine our entire ethical foundation of true morality.
Indeed the Synod’s Working Document further displays the triumph of the New Theology over today’s Vatican; the same new theology that wrought havoc at Vatican II and continues its destructive path to this day.
(Excerpt) Read more at cfnews.org ...
Then why not perform secret baptisms upon mass crowds such as baseball stadiums, concert halls, hospital nurseries, etc? Let’s imitate the mormons!
The vehement anti-Catholic, pro-abortion, pro-homo, Abe Foxman was baptized a Catholic. Do you think that has helped or hurt the fate of his eternal soul?
If you’re not thinking about the parents, how can you claim to be concerned about the child?
Do you expect a baptized infant to raise himself in the Catholic faith all by his lonesome?
What does Post 15 have to do with unrepentant homos presenting a child for the sacrament of baptism?
They have no intention of raising that child in the Catholic faith.
Better the child be raised in the church than he be excluded from it. The church has many good resources to help children, including schools.
The child of such parents , so called, already has two strikes against it. Denying the child what benefits the church could provide just seems the worst option of all. IMHO. I have no authority and speak for nobody. Just my opinion. Thanks c
Do you not understand that the child will not be raised in the Church?
In the U.S., the Catholic Church has, for the most part, dropped out of the adoption programs because the government is forcing it to give infants to homo couples.
Is it your opinion that to stay in the business, the Church should just baptize every infant in its care, and pass him/her out to the first sodomite couple that comes along?
Respectfully, would it be better to deny the (Innocent) Baby the sacrament of baptism and at least whatever portion or amount of church communion, education, catechism and pastoral guidance may be possible for a child caught in such a situation? IMHO, and it’s only how I feel, no. I believe the child shod be welcomed into the body of Christ and allowed to feel s/he has a real home in the Church
There is no other option, unfortunately, given the circumstances, if the Church is to remain Catholic with respect to such situations. Has to wait until adulthood. Situations like this are a consequence of society abandoning Catholicism and God: increasingly more bizarre and unfortunately "parenting" arrangements are to be expected. There is no way they or the children can immedately be accommodated in the Church.
Homo parents are not allowed to receive Holy Communion; why do you think their child feels he has a "home" in that church? Do you really think the parents will refrain from Holy Communion while the child receives his First Communion?
Do you actually think the homo parents will teach their child that sodomy is a mortal sin and that, they the parents, will go to Hell if they continue in their wicked lifestyle?
If, in a local park, a Muslim woman asked you to watch her infant while the mom used the restroom, would you baptize that child?
No, I would not baptize a child behind the parents’ backs...(aalthough I do NOT believe that child has a good future, either). I wish all Muslims would become (genuine) Christians, of course (and not the kind we saw in the 2008 election).
OK, well... we’ve gone aways already from the intent of my original comment, so I will sign off from this one now — but thanks very much. I acknowledge I did (and do) not have all the right answers. Thanks for your ideas!
Sponsors can’t repent for somebody else.
Understood. I, for one, would welcome the child (since s/he is innocent of its parents’ sins).
Church schools could help such children perhaps even more than kids with healthy parents. The idea of In Loco Parentis has been a major part of traditional education....
at least the kids would be exposed to moral instruction, something they’d not be getting in their peculiarly odd “homes”
anyway, I’ve checked out of this thread, as I had my fair say...and I really don’t have any better answers than the limited thoughts previously submitted. I definitely wish to thank everyone who responded! Thanks! Over and out.
Nobody is repenting in the baptismal rite.
Sounds just like the assurances not all that long ago that the Church would approve contraception just like all the non-Catholics had.
2) A new “pastoral approach” that permits the baptism of children from same-sex couples, thus indirectly legitimizing these unions;
3) A recasting of natural law in “new language”, which threatens to undermine our entire ethical foundation of true morality.
Oh the horror - most people are free to do a reenactment in remembrance of His gift, but some think they can stop the "undesirables by making it a holy rite controlled by priests.
How gauche to allow baptism of innocents children because they, with no control in the matter, are under the care of homosexuals - they obviously need to rot in hell or pay for something they didn't do before being considered. God forbid that baptizing an innocent child can be seen as 'legitimizing" a homosexual relationship.
The word "catholic" (as stated in the Apostle's Creed)means universal or open to all, yet it is the resultant Catholic Church that has so many of the rules one must abide by - the same rules described as sinful and getting people chastised for falling from grace. If folks don't toe the line, then the same church thinks it can deny the ingredients of salvation. Note to Y'All - God makes those decisions and any men who think they have the power or authority to make such decisions are seriously deluded.
I’m not quite sure what disingious means, but thanks.
I will leave you with this, it is a CALL to REPENTENCE, the movie in question.
Good Bye.
Oh brother...unfreakingbelievable.
Question: Prior to Vatican II, did the Church baptize babies of unmarried couples presumably living together?
I'll add another: What does this say about their Catholicity?
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