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French Cardinal ‘Urged Iraqi Christians to Remain in Homeland’
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 8/1/14

Posted on 08/01/2014 7:06:33 AM PDT by marshmallow

Iraqi Christians driven from their homes by Islamist terrorists should not flee their country, a French cardinal reportedly said this week.

Cardinal Philippe Barbarin of Lyon celebrated Mass in St Joseph’s Church, Ankawa, and was quoted as telling the Iraqis that Pope Francis wanted Christians to remain there.

Sahar Mansour, a refugee who attended the July 28 Mass for peace in Iraq, said the cardinal told the congregation of more than 1,000 people, many of whom had fled Mosul as the city fell to Islamic State fighters in June, that the Pope’s wish was for them “to be strong and stay in their homeland” and to follow the example of Christ.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Islam; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: catholic; justdie; pope4martyrdom
Easy to say.........
1 posted on 08/01/2014 7:06:33 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Agreed. Christ endured suffering and execution for an important reason. For everyday people, unless there is a holy calling to martyrdom, preservation of life is important. To be a true martyr requires a significant discernment.


2 posted on 08/01/2014 7:09:34 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: marshmallow

Philippe Cardinal Barbarin is, I assume, booked on the next flight to Iraq.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 7:12:10 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: marshmallow

War with Islam.

Coming soon to a country near you.

Sooner or later, you’ve got to realize Islam is evil.

Pure evil.

Pure unadulturated evil.

Pure slimy unadulaterated evil.

And it must be handled in an appropriate manner.


4 posted on 08/01/2014 7:12:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marshmallow
Easy to say.........

Ya, when do the Templars arrive?

5 posted on 08/01/2014 7:12:38 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: marshmallow

Unless they’re going to provide some significant backup in the form of military grade hardware, they have no business urging fellow Christians to stay in harms way.


6 posted on 08/01/2014 7:13:05 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: marshmallow

NIMBY!


7 posted on 08/01/2014 7:13:51 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: marshmallow

Talk about naive!


8 posted on 08/01/2014 7:14:11 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Da Coyote

Americans, LOCK and LOAD.


9 posted on 08/01/2014 7:14:48 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: marshmallow
Nothing makes converts like martyrs.

However, methinks that those Christians will be applying for visas to...anywhere else.

10 posted on 08/01/2014 7:15:46 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Mercat
Philippe Cardinal Barbarin is, I assume, booked on the next flight to Iraq.

what a tremendous witness that would be if some of the most senior and pious elders stood shoulder to shoulder with the Iraqi Christians ! Will Pope Francis or this cardinal do it ?

11 posted on 08/01/2014 7:17:47 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: marshmallow
was quoted as telling the Iraqis that Pope Francis wanted Christians to remain there.

Easy to say when you park your ass on a throne in the safe and comfy climes of the Vatican. These Christians are being systematically exterminated and their sons and daughters are being raped and beheaded.

The pope should either make a visit to Mosul and make his statement there in the open.. or (ONCE AGAIN) STFU!

12 posted on 08/01/2014 7:22:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: af_vet_1981
Will Pope Francis or this cardinal do it ?

Hell, no he won't.

13 posted on 08/01/2014 7:22:39 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: af_vet_1981

I’d volunteer to be on that plane if they asked me. I would not however want my Pope on that plane. I don’t see that he has told the Iraqi Christians to stay there. If there is a direct quote from a credible source I would like to see it. Plus, the Pope is a lot more than just a human being. As shown with St. JP, he’s a target.


14 posted on 08/01/2014 7:23:17 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat
I’d volunteer to be on that plane if they asked me.

volunteering is going without being asked.

15 posted on 08/01/2014 8:00:31 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Mercat

I completely agree with your post.

Also, note this from yesterday’s news:

“The Archbishop of Lyon has travelled to Iraq to show the country’s Christians his solidarity. “I will say the Our Father in Aramaic until you are finally able to return home. French visas are not the solution”

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/barbarin-mosul-35525/


16 posted on 08/01/2014 8:01:07 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: af_vet_1981

I’m guessing if I show up to get on his plane they wouldn’t let me go. LOL. I’m not even going to Mexico unless I’m on a tour with a group of people. I don’t fear death but would prefer it be with a group of like minded people.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 8:13:36 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: MichaelCorleone

Sounds like an historic parallel would be requiring the German Jewish popultaion to remain in Germany pre-
WWII.


18 posted on 08/01/2014 8:15:33 AM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Mercat
I’m guessing if I show up to get on his plane they wouldn’t let me go. LOL. I’m not even going to Mexico unless I’m on a tour with a group of people. I don’t fear death but would prefer it be with a group of like minded people.

I heard a story about someone moved by a terrorist attack to do a variation on the Texas 3 step. 1. Sell all belongings worth money. 2. Buy a one way ticket to the danger zone. 3. Live amongst the survivors and victims as a volunteer. Crazy, probably didn't have any kids. Also heard four others from different countries showed up within days of each other. Probably all were crazy.

19 posted on 08/01/2014 8:40:00 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: ScottinVA

The Pope has completely lost it.

How can he suggest that ANYONE with a Christian identity stay in a war ravaged land that is controlled by Islamic terrorists?

This is insanity, pure and simple.

He is literally protected by his own army, police and other security details that number into the thousands....

And the Pope is telling these people to “hold out” while they are outnumbered 1000 to 1 by people who want them dead?


20 posted on 08/01/2014 9:01:49 AM PDT by Prole
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To: Mercat

With all of his possessions, ready to set up housekeeping, right?

This was really one of the stupidest things I’ve heard a churchman say about the Iraq situation. Good for France. Heck, the US should actually offer to take in some REAL persecuted refugees, and it would be to our benefit.

Christians were the commercial mainstay of Iraq and in fact virtually all of the Islamic countries that are now exterminating them. Many of these places also had a Jewish commercial class....nice upon a time.

Muslims don’t do anything. They can only destroy.


21 posted on 08/01/2014 9:17:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: Mercat

With all of his possessions, ready to set up housekeeping, right?

This was really one of the stupidest things I’ve heard a churchman say about the Iraq situation. Good for France. Heck, the US should actually offer to take in some REAL persecuted refugees, and it would be to our benefit.

Christians were the commercial mainstay of Iraq and in fact virtually all of the Islamic countries that are now exterminating them. Many of these places also had a Jewish commercial class....nice upon a time.

Muslims don’t do anything. They can only destroy.


22 posted on 08/01/2014 9:17:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

It’s easy to tell someone else to subject themself and their loved ones to robbery, rape, torture and murder.

Will Cardinal Philip join them in their martyrdom?


23 posted on 08/01/2014 9:20:34 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Prole

The Pope, iirc, lamented the vanishing Christian presence, but I don’t think he told them to stay there. That was the bizarre take of this particular cardinal, and since Francis never comes out and corrects or clarifies anything, they all feel free to misuse his words for their purposes.


24 posted on 08/01/2014 9:21:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

Crucified, huh?


25 posted on 08/01/2014 9:33:17 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: marshmallow

I understand that the Kurds have offered sanctuary to fleeing Christians.


26 posted on 08/01/2014 9:40:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Prole

Is there a direct quote from him or is this just a Cardinal saying it?


27 posted on 08/01/2014 9:45:11 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Prole
How can he suggest that ANYONE with a Christian identity stay in a war ravaged land that is controlled by Islamic terrorists?

Here we are (rightly) blasting away at muslims for using kids as human shields, then this pope advocates unarmed Christian families returning back to their former homes in Iraq to be slaughtered like animals.

JPII would NEVER have advocated this. Francis can kiss my recovering-catholic a**.

28 posted on 08/01/2014 1:22:19 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Mercat
Is there a direct quote from him or is this just a Cardinal saying it?

A cardinal wouldn't lie about the pope, would he???

29 posted on 08/01/2014 7:20:46 PM PDT by Iscool
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