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Be wary of news reports about the what the Synod is up to
WDTPRS ^ | October 13, 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 10/13/2014 3:41:38 PM PDT by NYer

We must be wary about the “Synod of the Media”.

There is a Synod of Bishops that takes place and there is the way the MSM and also Catholic (especial catholic) media spins the Synod.

As the bishops split up in to smaller groups, there comes a status report called the Relatio post disceptationem (Latin disceptatio is “a dispute, disputation, debate, discussion, disquisition”).

The Relatio p. d. is getting mixed reviews. Liberals are experiences frissons of glee, which doesn’t usually bode well for truth.

Nicole Winfield of AP has this piece about the newly released mid-point report, after the first week of everyone yakking in the Synod hall.

Note some of the language in this piece. Nota bene, this is written for a low-information audience, but the language is still pretty misleading.

Bishops [which?] clearly took into account the views of Pope Francis, [of course they would - he's the Pope] whose “Who am I to judge?” comment about gays signaled a new tone of welcome for the church. [Is there a clear connection between what the bishops considered and what Francis said on the airplane? Not really.] Their report also reflected the views of ordinary Catholics who, in responses to Vatican questionnaires in the run-up to the synod, rejected church teaching on birth control and homosexuality as outdated and irrelevant. [They did, did they?]

The bishops [which?] said gays had “gifts and qualities” to offer and asked rhetorically if the church was ready to provide them a welcoming place, “accepting and valuing their sexual orientation without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony.”

Maybe some bishops do hold that. Others don’t. But here we have a vague “bishops”, implying greater unanimity than there is.

Be careful in your reading of news about the Synod.

For example, if the Synod makes a statement about the “gifts and qualities” of homosexuals, keep in mind that homosexuals do NOT have ”gifts and qualities” for the Church simply because they are homosexuals.

Of course homosexuals have “gifts and talents!” But they have them as human beings, not as homosexuals. They must not be turned into some subset that can then claim rights as homosexuals. They are no better or worse than any other human being and each of them have the obligation to respect nature and God’s law.

Homosexuals are not special.

Catholics do not object to homosexuals participating in the life of the Church. We object to the suggestion that homosexual acts are normal, acceptable, good, proper… take your pick. They aren’t. They are objective sinful and gravely disordered. The people with the inclinations toward them are obliged to struggle against them just ever other person on earth is obliged to struggle against inclinations, to battle against and resist the world, the flesh and the devil.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; synod
Some Examples:

Vatican proposes 'stunning' shift on gays, lesbians - CNN

BISHOPS SAY GAYS HAVE GIFTS TO OFFER CHURCH - AP

1 posted on 10/13/2014 3:41:38 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/13/2014 3:42:02 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

I warned about this when Pope Frank won the lottery. It’s coming whether you like it or not.


3 posted on 10/13/2014 3:43:42 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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Here all this time I thought synod was something you get when you blow your nose.


4 posted on 10/13/2014 3:46:39 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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I'm all ears for another objective source of information.
5 posted on 10/13/2014 3:48:56 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Most Important post on the subject!


6 posted on 10/13/2014 3:50:24 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: NYer
Just like things done in the name of "the spirit of Vatican II."

Anything written by The National Catholic Reporter (which is NOT the Register), La Stampa, The Tablet, or any left wing rag - must be held suspect.

They sit in their planning meetings and work to exploit any idea that appears to destroy the integrity of the Church.

When you lift up the rock, the slime slithers away.

7 posted on 10/13/2014 3:53:26 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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My Niece and her Husband have left the Catholic Church. They think Francis is a joke.


8 posted on 10/13/2014 3:53:28 PM PDT by dforest
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Contact (FReep) your Bishop!

http://usccb.org/about/bishops-and-dioceses/all-dioceses.cfm


9 posted on 10/13/2014 4:01:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I have been saying this all along! Thanks for the post! Thanks Father Z!


10 posted on 10/13/2014 4:04:36 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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Haven’t read a single “news” article about the synod yet. I’ll wait until it’s over and just read what the Church decides.


11 posted on 10/13/2014 4:06:29 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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From Fr. John Zuhlsdorf's article: "We must be wary about the 'Synod of the Media'."


Timely posting, NYer. Local news just now promoted what clearly sounded like the homosexual agenda version.

God Bless Father Zuhlsdorf for getting the word out.


12 posted on 10/13/2014 4:21:46 PM PDT by bd476
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How does “good fruits” come from something that has been taught as immoral, and intrinsically evil” since for 2,000 years. This report is heresy. Francis is a heretic if you asked me. He gets rid of conservative Catholic priests that are teaching the authentic gospel and replaces them with liberals like him that want to water-down the faith and teach error. He needs to go and with him each and everyone of these cowards, these sheeps in wolves clothing.

“The document seems not to be consonant with 2,000 years worth of Church teaching, theology, practice, and spirituality,” said Benjamin Harnwell, founder of the Rome-based Dignitatis Humanae Institute. “Where is the Catholic content? Where are the insights only a Catholic would say? With the caveat this is only a provisional document, at this stage it hasn’t been sufficiently explained how can there be good fruits based on something that the Church has always taught was intrinsically sinful.”

Royal said that in a “media environment like the one we live in now, the message that gets transmitted is uncertainty” and that “only kind of ratifies people’s autonomy to go ahead and do whatever they want.

“This is not Catholicism,” he said. “It’s hard to know exactly why we’re so anxious to be able to talk to people. Certainly we want to be respectful to all persons, but that shouldn’t be the centrality of what the Church is up to. The Church has, in the modern world, got many more difficult things to address.”

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/serious-reservations-expressed-about-content-of-synod-report/#ixzz3G4aLHChR


13 posted on 10/13/2014 5:07:44 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer

God is still in charge


14 posted on 10/13/2014 5:29:27 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: dforest
They think Francis is a joke.

Looks like a double for Stan Laurel.
15 posted on 10/13/2014 6:06:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: NYer

There is nothing coming from this gathering. No report. No suggestions. No action will be taken. It is a dead-end nothing gathering without any consequence. do not fret.


16 posted on 10/14/2014 12:09:39 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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I’ve learned to be wary of news reports about nearly everything these days, Father Z.
17 posted on 10/14/2014 11:13:45 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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