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Ishmael is not the Father of Muhammad
Answering Islam ^
| 12/18/14
| Sam Shamoun
Posted on 12/18/2014 11:44:45 AM PST by OneVike
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Long read but the facts are well investigated and documented.
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:44:45 AM PST
by
OneVike
To: OneVike
True. Muhammad’s father was a schlemiel
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:48:33 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: OneVike
Quite exhaustive and very interesting.
Of course, the Koran alleges that Abraham himself was a “Muslim” and helped Ishmael set up the Ka’aba. Among other fables.
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:49:19 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: OneVike
"Since the Holy Bible indicates that Ishmael never settled in Mecca he therefore cannot be the father of the Arabs that settled there. In other words, Muhammad is not a descendant of Ishmael." Faulty logic.
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:50:06 AM PST
by
fulltlt
To: skeeter
I found a picture of his cousin...
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:50:59 AM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: OneVike
I just thought that line became the Bedouin and the Druze.
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:56:47 AM PST
by
Usagi_yo
(Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
To: OneVike
Ishmael...” will be a wild donkey of a man”
I couldn’t have said that anywhere near as well.
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posted on
12/18/2014 11:59:29 AM PST
by
MeshugeMikey
("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
To: OneVike
There exists good and evil.
By there acts against innocents - followers of muhbombhead are evil.
There is no room for debate.
You or me?
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:02:10 PM PST
by
Eddie01
(Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
To: sauropod
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:05:01 PM PST
by
sauropod
(Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
To: OneVike
If it’s a lie, it’s an old one, in that the Arabs have been called variations of “Ishmaelite” way before the false prophet Mohammed came along.
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:07:16 PM PST
by
Jewbacca
(The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
To: OneVike
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:13:11 PM PST
by
onyx
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To: OneVike
mohammed was a child rapist.
Any questions?
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:13:58 PM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Boner and McTurtle funded Amnesty and 0bamaCare)
To: OneVike
islam = satan’s death cult
allah = the pagan idol that represents satan
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:25:38 PM PST
by
newfreep
("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
To: OneVike
Interesting read. I knew that the Islamists claimed that Muhammad descended from Ishmael, which given the 2000+ year gap between them didn't seem to be entirely implausible (with that big a gap you can connect anyone to basically anyone).
But I did not know they also claimed that Abraham and Ishmael themselves went to Mecca to set up the Kaabala, which is clearly spurious both Biblically and logistically. The distance to Mecca over the sterile Saudi desert is preposterous for a nomadic herder of grazing livestock. I agree it was most likely an attempt to give the new moon-religion some credibility by by trying to hook it up to Abrahamic monotheism.
Bookmarked, thanks.
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:33:14 PM PST
by
Gideon7
To: OneVike
Muhammed was the descendant of someone Shemitic.
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:37:16 PM PST
by
imardmd1
(Fiat Lux)
To: OneVike
so...... whats the point of all this?
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:43:17 PM PST
by
wafflehouse
(RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
To: OneVike
The math for the impossibly large average generational age gap in the genealogies is interesting too. Islam literally does not add up.
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:49:25 PM PST
by
Gideon7
To: OneVike
Muhammad’s father would be Satan IMO.
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posted on
12/18/2014 12:55:08 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: OneVike
So what and who cares? Evil is evil.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:03:48 PM PST
by
mulligan
(I)
To: OneVike
Here is part of an article from a Muslim Professor.
I am Muslim and teach Eastern History.
While Mohammad, the Kaaba and the Islamic religion seems to be very well documented in religious sources, I regret to say that there are few authentic Historical sources of Mohammad and Mecca. Of course, New Age Historians have come up with theories including a story of communication between the Pope and Mohammad but these theories are unfounded.
Another excerpt
In fact there are more authentic Historical mention of Jesus than the more recent Great Prophet Mohammad himself.
Sorry if I offend fellow Muslims who think differently.
It is likely that what you say is true as Hagar went to the wilderness of Beersheba and that seems to be where Ishmael stayed.
Which is just 70 miles or so and was also where the Israelites first settled after their Journey in the wilderness and was a part of Canaan.
It is doubtfull if Abraham or Ishmael either one even got close to Meca.
Also if Meca was where Ishmael settled it would be an ancient town but there is no evidence that it even existed before 400 ad.
So who are the Ishmael people today?
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:50:02 PM PST
by
ravenwolf
(` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
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