Posted on 12/23/2014 6:09:54 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Cardinal Raymond Burke said in an interview this week that it is “amazing” that those who have defended Catholic teaching and practice on withholding Communion from those in publicly “irregular” sexual situations, are being accused of “being against the Holy Father, and of not being in harmony with the Church.”
The blog Rorate Caeli carried a translation of the comments Cardinal Burke made this week to the French language daily Le Figaro. Burke, one of a small group of vocal opponents of the so-called Kasper proposal, said that October’s Synod of Bishops on the family “was a difficult experience.” Those who were “in line” with Cardinal Walter Kasper had control of the Synod’s processes, he said.
Burke noted the insertion of homosexuality into the Synod’s discussion, saying that it “has no relation with the question of marriage.”
The Synod’s direction appeared to be predetermined by these, he said, adding that the mid-term document “seemed to have had already been written before the interventions of the Synod Fathers.” That mid-term Relatio, understood to have been written by the Italian liberal theologian, Archbishop Bruno Forte, called for the Church to change its practice, and to “accept and value” the homosexual “orientation.”
Cardinal Burke reiterated his point, made many times during and since the Synod, that the mid-term Relatio “made no reference to Scripture, nor to the Tradition of the Church, nor to the teaching of John Paul II on conjugal love,” an unprecedented occurrence for a document of the highest authorities of the Catholic Church. He added that it is “highly offputting” that the paragraphs on Communion for remarried divorcees and homosexuality were retained in the Final Relatio – and now in the Lineamenta, the document issued in preparation for next year’s Synod – even though they had been rejected in a vote by the Synod bishops.
Asked whether it is legitimate for a cardinal to be critical of a pope, Burke said, “A Cardinal, in certain situations, has the duty to say what he truly thinks to the pope.” He said, however, that between a cardinal and the pope it is “impossible for there to be a divergence on a matter of doctrine and discipline of the Church.”
“In an age filled with confusion, as we see with Gender Theory, we need the teaching of the Church on marriage,” Burke said.
What else did anyone think would happen if you picked an Argentine Jesuit?
“for telling the truth about the heretics that are trying to destroy the Catholic Church”
I think that is a bit of a stretch....
Yes.
It sounds like Catholics are supposed to worship the Church, or it’s leaders words.
Kind of sounds like the same problem we have in this country. Loyal and patriotic Americans are now told they are the bad guys and the scum are now the good guys.
Gee, I wonder if the left is behind both problems?
Like all progressives, the Pope doesn’t even know he’s a heretic. He’s just full of himself and is having his ego stoked by the Gang of Four (Kasper, Danneels, Cormac-O’Connor, and Maradiaga).
Three of them are actually retired, after having destroyed the Church in their respective countries. But they and Francis have a mutual admiration society.
it depends on who’s doing the accusing.
PFL
Or ‘moderate’ muslims, vs the ‘extremist’ ones (that believe the koran).
This is not surprising. It is the deceptive way of those who choose homosexuality and engage in perversion.
Kasper has hidden things we can be sure. Burke would be a hero if he found these hidden things and publicized them. It would throw the Church into upheaval but it would expose the homosexual underpinnings of these events.
Is it possible that Benedict chose to step down to protect some who were threatened by the same diabolical elements that are sensed as hidden in these exchanges?
Things are happening in the Church and worldwide traced un events led by homosexuals. Coincidences are not to be believed.
Burke and Cruz are peas in a pod.
The forces of good and evil are aligning.
If I did not believe what the Church taught I would get out.
What you are seeing is the same thing as in the Methodist Church. There is doctrine and there is discipline. The Methodists vote down the homosexual agenda every year, but the church leaders refuse to discipline.
Look at what the church leaders do, not what they say.
Mat 21:28 “But what do you think about this? A man with two sons told the older boy, ‘Son, go out and work in the vineyard today.’
Mat 21:29 The son answered, ‘No, I won’t go,’ but later he changed his mind and went anyway.
Mat 21:30 Then the father told the other son, ‘You go,’ and he said, ‘Yes, sir, I will.’ But he didn’t go.
Mat 21:31 “Which of the two obeyed his father?”
The Church has replaced God.
“I remain within, and love, the Catholic Church because it is a church that has lived and wrestled within the mystery of the shadow lands ever since an innocent man was arrested, sentenced and crucified, while the keeper of “the keys” denied him, and his first priests ran away. Through 2,000 imperfect—sometimes glorious, sometimes heinous—years, the church has contemplated and manifested the truth that dark and light, innocence and guilt, justice and injustice all share a kinship, one that waves back and forth like wind-stirred wheat in a field, churning toward something—as yet—unknowable.” ~ Elizabeth Scalia
Mat 21:31 “Which of the two obeyed his father?”
Acts 5 -1 through 9 and 1 timothy 5 -9 through 16
Being a member of the Church did have qualifications it was a serious business but in todays Church any one can be a member.
And it has happened for the purpose of bringing in the sheaves or tithes if there is a difference.
Times are a’changin’...
Burke realizes that it's important to confront this spin machine and alert the faithful to the clear and present danger.
If he's not careful, he'll find himself as the Papal Nuncio to Kazakhstan.
The Church is the Bride of Christ.
Read the Bible.
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