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Living on the Dark Side of the Cartesian Divide, A Reflection on the Gnosticism of our Times
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-07-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/08/2015 7:13:22 AM PST by Salvation

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1 posted on 01/08/2015 7:13:22 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...
**Gnostic tendencies have existed in every era, but were most severe in the early centuries among heretical groups. They have resurfaced in recent centuries, especially since the so-called Enlightenment, where human reason is exulted unreasonably.**

Catholic Ping!

2 posted on 01/08/2015 7:14:26 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Incoming! (:) I am wearing my helmet.


3 posted on 01/08/2015 7:31:52 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

Bttt!


4 posted on 01/08/2015 7:46:55 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
When I consume the Body and Blood I know Him. If you think about it in terms of what we are doing it is the most intimate of acts.
5 posted on 01/08/2015 8:01:00 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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Me, too!


6 posted on 01/08/2015 8:12:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Orthodox Lutheran here. Thanks for the outSTANDING article. It immediately caught my eye because I am reading a new book written by a Lutheran pastor titled Gnostic America. He goes in depth on every single observation made by the Monsignor. Part I of the book is a slog for normal, linear thinking people. But the author insists that readers learn and understand what and HOW gnostics think, which is critical. I thought I knew something about gnosticism... but nope I was pretty clueless. It is amazing and alarming to discover how vast is the gnostic influence in our country, across the entire culture and throughout Evangelical World and seeping into orthodox churches as well...

The most recognizable area of attack – just as the Monsignor wrote – is in the Gender Bending and same sex marriage movement.

If you care to know more, check out the book here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/putlyo4


7 posted on 01/08/2015 8:36:05 AM PST by Sally ("This is the only Administration I've ever been in where it's 100% politics 100% of the time.")
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**The most recognizable area of attack – just as the Monsignor wrote – is in the Gender Bending and same sex marriage movement.**

Thanks, Sally.


8 posted on 01/08/2015 8:48:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sally

Looks like an interesting read.


9 posted on 01/08/2015 9:09:50 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

The generations of heresy:

Gonostics
Docetics
Arians
Muslims
Zwinglians

The first three are now known by the final two...old heresies in newer guises,


10 posted on 01/08/2015 9:20:21 AM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Sally
Sally another one that is well done is Dissent from the Creed by Richard Hogan

http://www.amazon.com/Dissent-Creed-Heresies-Past-Present/dp/0879734086/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420738758&sr=8-1&keywords=dissent+from+the+creed

A used copy is under $3

11 posted on 01/08/2015 9:39:48 AM PST by verga
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The first three are now known by the final two...old heresies in newer guises,

You left out Modernism, which combines the first 3 in various forms.

You might want to take a look at the book I recommended to Sally in post 11.

12 posted on 01/08/2015 9:42:09 AM PST by verga
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To: verga
In my mind Satan's greatest accomplishment is getting everyone to accept disordered sex. Sex, sex, sex. I mean that's all we hear about. Everything is about sex in one form or another.
13 posted on 01/08/2015 10:09:09 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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In my mind Satan's greatest accomplishment is getting everyone to accept disordered sex. Sex, sex, sex. I mean that's all we hear about. Everything is about sex in one form or another.

Have you read Peter Kreeft's "Snakebite letters"? It is an updated version of C.S. Lewis's "Screwtape Letters". You are almost quoting verbatim one of the parts in there.

14 posted on 01/08/2015 10:32:07 AM PST by verga
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To: verga

I have read “Screwtape Letters” but not “Snakebite Letters”. Maybe I should.


15 posted on 01/08/2015 10:37:10 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

Interesting that the article spends most of it’s time bashing the Protestants but leading the article is the crescent moon of the moon goddess Sin and the star of Ishtar goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex. All originating in Babylon. In 330 AD, Byzantium Emperor Constantin used this symbol (with slight modifications) while rededicating Constantinople to Virgin Mary. Interesting that.


16 posted on 01/08/2015 10:49:37 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: lightman

Cathers


17 posted on 01/08/2015 10:51:35 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: CynicalBear

Even more interesting that a Prot would read a thread just to irritate themselves and make snotty comments.


18 posted on 01/08/2015 10:59:36 AM PST by verga
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but leading the article is the crescent moon of the moon goddess Sin and the star of Ishtar goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex.

If you thought that was interesting you will find this hilarious: That picture is the Crescent Earth. How is that for just hilarious.

Nokia EARTH Walpaper

19 posted on 01/08/2015 11:11:58 AM PST by verga
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Do not single out an ("a Prot") individual member and state as a fact ("just to irritate themselves and make snotty comments") an attack type personal opinion.

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.

Mindreading is making it personal.

Open threads are not for the thinskinned.

If you wish to avoid seeing posters of a different belief system's opinions perhaps it would be better to stay on the caucus, devotion, ecumenical and prayer threads or avoid the Religion Forum altogether.

If you click on my name at the bottom of this post, you will see this concerning open threads on the RF:

Open threads are in a town square format.

Antagonism though not encouraged, should be expected

Posters may argue for or against beliefs, deities, religious authorities, etc. They may tear down other’s beliefs. They may ridicule. “Open” RF debate is often contentious.

It requires thick skin. A poster must be able to make his points while standing his ground, suffering adverse remarks about his beliefs - or letting them roll off his back.

Members of religions which are as much culture as belief sometimes take religious debate personally. If you keep getting your feelings hurt because other posters ridicule or disapprove or hate what you hold dear, then you are too thin-skinned to be involved in “open” RF debate. You should IGNORE “open” RF threads altogether and instead post to RF threads labeled “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” or “ecumenical.”


20 posted on 01/08/2015 11:29:14 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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