[RnMomof7]

Grace ping

[cuban leaf]

I needs me some indulgences! I hear there’s a sale going on.

[Gamecock]

“Hence, to those who work well unto the end and trust in God, eternal life is to be offered, both as a grace mercifully promised to the sons of God through Christ Jesus, and as a reward promised by God himself, to be faithfully given to their good works and merits.”

What a miserable way to muddle through life. If I believed that, even for a minute, I would be suicidal.

[Paul46360]

the late and GREAT Andre Crouch said it best..religion is man's attempt to please God.
Jn3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
A look at what Jesus said to the one criminal crucified with him puts to rest the WHOLE argument of works v. grace.

[Servant of the Cross]

Faith and works. It is not an 'either/or' issue. It is BOTH/AND!

The Bible makes it clear that there must be a balanced relationship between our faith and its expression in good works.

[Alex Murphy]

Within five minutes, we already got this:

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[WVKayaker]

Grace = UNMERITED favor!

... God's grace does not depend on our efforts or works it totally depends upon God. (Romans 9:15-16 NIV) For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. If we are willing to allow the Holy Spirit to work in us then God does the work of changing our heart to love Him and love others, so that we can be obedient to His Word. (2 Thessalonians 3:5 NKJV) Now may the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience (endurance) of Christ. (Deuteronomy 30:6 NKJV) "And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. ... -Seek God. org

[ealgeone]

Hebrews 11.....by faith, by faith, by faith, by faith, etc!

[Arthur McGowan]

Typical misrepresentation of Catholic teaching, regurgitated for the umpteenth time.

I’m actually getting familiar with the names of these peddlers of anti-Catholic poison and hate.

What a way to make a living: Lying about somebody else’s religion.

[vladimir998]

“For example, I listened to a message from John MacArthur which was quite negative about the Catholic Church. What I found was he had no substance or validities in his comments. What was seen though, John MacArthur was full of arrogance and hatred. I had read books he had written in the past. I took what he said as gospel. I had even quoted him. Can these negative statements he was making really be of Christ? This is what I mean, there are many who will take what MacArthur said as truth, then they come to believe what they wrongfully believe about the Catholic Church without checking it out for themselves. This may mean going to a Sunday Mass.” http://www.catholicconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/Story-2-22-15-Steve.pdf

[Elsie]

Explaining the Heresy of Catholicism Grace vs> works

NOW you'll make their heads explode!

[Resettozero]

Presiding over that twisted system of satanic lies is the pope. And that is where we’ll pick it up tomorrow.

Well, now...

Well...now.

John MacArthur, huh?

[SkyPilot]

At the heart of the merit-based Catholic system is the unbiblical concept of purgatory. In fact, it’s the invention of purgatory that makes Catholic dogma attractive at all—without it, Catholicism would be a very hard sell. Catholics are never really on solid spiritual ground. They can’t know for certain if they’re saved or whether they will ever make it into heaven. And even confident, pious Catholics live in perpetual fear of committing a mortal sin that will throw them out of favor with God and the church. It’s the false doctrine of purgatory that provides Catholics their spiritual safety net, bringing false hope to people trapped in a hopeless system. It’s the one relief in their entire guilt-ridden, fear-ridden system of works righteousness.

As a former Catholic (now Evangelical Christian) I can attest to that statement being 100% true.

Once, I sincerely asked a Catholic priest how I could attain God's forgiveness and be assured that I would escape Hell and go to Heaven.

He looked at me with a puzzled and nervous expression on his face, stammered a bit, and then blurted out:

"Well, that's a Great Mystery."

[SoothingDave]

No Catholic believes he is saved by “works of the Law.”

“The Law” means something.

Words mean things.

Pathetic.

[Campion]

It's hilarious that MacArthur picks a passage from Trent which discusses the merits of works done AFTER justification and as a RESULT of the grace received in justification, and twists to pretend that the Church teaches that justification is received THROUGH works.

No deception, no lying here, no sirree. Pitiful.

[Salvation]

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/why-does-the-church-teach-that-works-can-obtain-salvation

[Grateful2God]

Are the 21 Coptic Christians, who lost their lives for their faith, in heaven because they were martyred (greater love hath no man), or in hell because they are not sola fides, sola scriptura, self-Bible-interpreting “born-again” people who say they follow Jesus?

[impactplayer]

It’s simple a case of cause and effect. Grace is the cause of works, and works are the effect of Grace. You simply cannot have one without the other.