Posted on 03/31/2015 2:42:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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I vote for “the most blasphemous and deceptive hoax any religion could impose on its people”.
Nope. Yeshua was talking pure symbolism.
I remember the good ole days when a kid could get his first taste of liquor at church.
Share water with me Jubal.
That "Mary" thing comes pretty close to the top of that list! Any RC cultist can claim some "vision" and become a "saint" with special abilities to answer prayers and move mountains. Worshipping statues of her and those other dead people are claimed for "holiness"...
It sure walks like a duck and sounds like a duck!
The rich young ruler met Christ face to face and walked away fro Him. Jesus had told him what he needed for eternal life. When he walked away we have no record of Jesus chasing him down to talk with Him again. He does not force Himself on anyone.
I don't know, but Genesis 2:7 is.
Are you Catholic (I already know the answer since I read your profile page)? Since the answer I know is no, why do you care what the Catholics believe? You and a couple other posters seem to believe your faiths can only be justified if you attack Catholics. AND I know I’m going to hear from those - why stop by this thread? And it is my last post to this thread but I’m saddened that someone who is filled with such venom can only find relief by attacking the faith of others.
When I see Catholic threads it usually doesn’t take long until I see you and your compatriots attacking people on those threads too. I hope God has mercy on your soul!
It most certainly does.
Jesus was not referring to communion because it was not practiced yet.
Ya know, I hope God has mercy on ALL our souls! The last thing I want for anyone (most of all myself) is justice.
Tell that to the Catholics.
I can answer that one!
The "attacks" usually come from the Romanists, when confronted with clear Scripture refuting the heresies and abominations of the largest cult in the history of the world. There are not normally ANY personal attacks as they are not allowed.
It hurts when you see that anything you have been taught is a lie. When it is consolidated into a realization that you cannot refute with anything except claims of "tradition", not finding any of those "traditions" based in the Word of God, then it is normal to lash out. We see the Romanists doing that with cries of foul and claims of personal attacks!
But, it is incumbent of Christians to confront lies and half-truths which may hinder a non-believer from finding the Truth of God's economy. It boils down to the simplest of things. We have a relationship with God based on faith. Nothing required but faith that He is in control, not us.
Paul's letter to Timothy reveals much along that vein...
1 Timothy 4: ... 4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
Regarding transubstantiation, note that Jesus referred to the wine as the “fruit of the vine” in Matthew 26:29 after he had symbolically referred to it as “my blood of the covenant” [emphasis added].
It’s not surprising that many Christians evidently also don’t know the Constitution well enough to protect themselves from political attacks by state and federal governments.
If it's other so long as attributed to the Christian faith, than it's not: "the most blasphemous and deceptive hoax any religion could impose on its people".
I have no problem believing in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. It's men I have problems believing in.
Luke 22:19-20 (KJV)
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
There's the red letter edition.
So impantation, consubstantiation, memorialism are okay with me.
It’s much worse than that.
...The Mass is supposed to be a re-sacrifice of Christ
can’t one find someone who understands Catholic doctrine, even if they disagree with it?
or is it done on purpose?
hmm.......
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