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The Harbinger Warning - September 13, 2015 - Fact or Fiction?
IFB ^ | 9/6/15 | Paul Beck

Posted on 09/06/2015 2:06:46 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

Dear friends, I don't often send out these out... but this is a MUCH WATCH! This topic has dominated the last year and this man does a great job in presenting the "You decide" call on Elul 29 and the Shemitah year which is to be fulfilled this Sept 13th. Whatever your thought on this topic is up to you but we want you to watch the last 15 minutes of this video.

My friends the last 15 minutes (start point - 58min) of this video is the MUST WATCH SECTION. In this section financial experts talk with secular financial experts who see things without a Biblical perspective so there is no bias. These experts use charts, data, examples, history and graphs etc... to show that our US and global economy is at the very verge of ABSOLUTE TOTAL COLLAPSE, which will make the Great Depression look like an all expenses payed trip to the Disney theme park! This US economic collapse will be the catalysis which will send the world into a death spin that we will NEVER recover from. To think otherwise is to be ignorant and deceived.

(Excerpt) Read more at theignorantfishermen.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bravosierra; cahn; fud; godsjudgment; jonathancahn; prophecy; psychops; scaretactics; shemitah; thebible; theharbinger
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To: bakeneko

The market is only on small part of the problem.

Markets
Currency (real)
Currency (fiat backed by the good credit & faith)
and finally

The velocity of money.

You see we talk about the government printing press, printing money to prop things up like the market, banks, economy, but the reality is they printed more debt. No actual currency hit the actual everyday street. There isn’t enough actual printed dollars, there’s only digital debt and that can disappear in a flash.


101 posted on 09/07/2015 4:20:57 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: mountainlion

Since when does God ever bless sin?

Christians are blessed in Jesus but the unbeliever has no claim to being blessed by God, even though they are.

But considering the way this country is going, if you’ve been watching the news lately, there no reason for us to expect anything but the judgment of God on America.


102 posted on 09/07/2015 5:57:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; 1_Rain_Drop

Quote-If you have something against him, then have the guts and integrity to be specific and state what it is

Mathew 23:8 But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9”Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.…

That is one thing .. He calls himself rabbi, metmom..

Something Jesus specifically said don’t do.

One strike right there..and I suspect we could find more. But that is an easy one..


103 posted on 09/07/2015 6:03:40 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: metmom
Since when does God ever bless sin? King David was an adulterer and murderer. He was blessed with a son that was the greatest King of Israel. He repented.

Jonathan Cahn says the Shemitah can be a blessing or a curse or both. I think many are going to be cursed and many are going to be blessed.

We need to pray for our country and not condemn everything.

104 posted on 09/07/2015 6:09:01 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

His first baby died as a result of his sin.

He was blessed with a son who became the greatest king of Israel AFTER he repented.

Yes, it can be a blessing and a curse, but the USA has set itself up for the curse end of it. It legalized the killing of children, endorses homosexual marriage, pushed God out of the schools and public life, and has otherwise shaken its collective fist in God’s face.

Our leaders are setting us up for the curse end of it and we ALL will bear the consequences in one way or another.

Christians are not exempt from the fallout of God’s judgment.

We’re blessed in Christ but that doesn’t mean we won’t had to deal with the consequences of God’s judgment on unbelievers.

Thinking that we will be blessed when the rest of the world is cursed, is not Scriptural. Read the book of Acts. Look at the history of the early church. Read Revelation 2-3.

There is no basis for your wishful thinking.

So what do you expect God to do for you when the rest of the world is going to hell? How do you expect God’s blessing to play out in your life when everyone else is experiencing God’s judgment? You’ll be immune to it? Won’t be touched by it?


105 posted on 09/07/2015 6:16:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

I walked into that one alright.


106 posted on 09/07/2015 6:20:01 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ShadowAce; metmom
**"Didn’t Jesus say we are not know that day or the hour?**

I find it interesting that you insist on verifying everything Cahn says, but get this fundamental fact about Scripture wrong and then run with it.

BINGO! You're catching on.

Now verify what Cahn wrote.

Decide if you're living in the Old Testament times or New Testament. Which Biblical Laws apply in your life? Has Jesus died for you yet or not? As a Christian, have you paid attention to Shemitah all your life or did you just learn about it. Was the tree cut down or burned? etc....

VERIFY DETAILS Biblical and Historical. Check if they're taken out of context.

In closing, God doesn't give us more than we can handle....oops!

107 posted on 09/07/2015 6:21:42 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: metmom
I think the leaders will be judged and dealt with. We are not in control of them. Many Kings of Israel were taken down and replaced with good and just leaders. That is my hope and Faith. God is in control and his will will be done. If I don't trust him and his plan then I am in sin. If God had destroyed Israel every time they had an un Godly King they would not exist today. Fear not for these things must pass.

I think all the gloom and doom written about come in the tribulation.

108 posted on 09/07/2015 6:27:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Elsie

Matthew 24:36

New International Version
“But ABOUT that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

English Standard Version
“But CONCERNING that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Berean Study Bible
No one knows ABOUT that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Berean Literal Bible
But CONCERNING that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of the heavens, nor the Son, except the Father only.

New American Standard Bible
“But OF that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

King James Bible
But OF that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

(”about”, “concerning”, and “of”)
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http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday4.htm

Yom Kippur is probably the most important holiday of the Jewish year. Yom Kippur occurs on the 10th day of Tishri. The holiday is instituted at Leviticus 23:26 et seq.

The name “Yom Kippur” means “Day of Atonement”. It is a day set aside to “afflict the soul,” to atone for the sins of the past year. On Yom Kippur, the judgment entered in these books is sealed. This day is, essentially, for a last appeal, a last chance to change the judgment, to demonstrate repentance and make amends.

Yom Kippur is a complete Sabbath; no work can be performed on that day. It is a complete, 25-hour fast beginning before sunset on the evening before Yom Kippur and ending after nightfall on the day of Yom Kippur.

(25 hours equal a day and an hour.)

Like I said when I opened myself up to the Linus example, this is a difficult forum to have “serious” back-and-forth and actually learn.


109 posted on 09/07/2015 6:46:28 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: metmom
"But considering the way this country is going, if you’ve been watching the news lately, there no reason for us to expect anything but the judgment of God on America."

Look on the bright side.

Babies have been murdered but how many will be saved now?
All the evil that has been going on behind closed doors is now being exposed. It's out in the open. The truth is coming out. This happened because people prayed. This happened because certain people acted to expose it. Everyone acted as God led them to. Why wouldn't God Bless America now? Why wouldn't He bless those individuals who worked to expose the truth? Wasn't He blessing us while all the babies were being killed? Why should He stop now now that we know the truth and are trying to stop the evil that is going on?

God protects His own. If you have been living according to His Word then the "judgement" that would befall on the evil doers will not affect you in a negative way. So why expect their punishment to befall on you?

Are you living according to the Old Testament or New Testament?

America is not Israel. America is not the chosen land. His chosen people do live in America. God did not make a covenant with America.

110 posted on 09/07/2015 7:29:03 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: metmom
“God is not going to let it go forever.’’ No, HE isn't. Huckabee made a chilling statement recently concerning the county clerk Kim Davis, he said “Christianity has been criminalized’’
111 posted on 09/07/2015 7:37:10 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: delchiante; metmom
"That is one thing .. He calls himself rabbi, ...."

He wears many hats, calls himself a rabbi when it suits his needs. A blurb from Coast to Coast (8/10/15):

"In the first half, historian and expert in ancient mysteries Jonathan Cahn discussed how omens and cycles from ancient texts are reappearing with startling similarities to the events which foretold the destruction and fall of great civilizations. The cycle of Shemitah was originally described in the Bible as a sabbath or rest for the land, and occurs for a one-year period every seven years, he explained, adding that this pattern of sevens predicted 9/11, the crash of 2008, and other previous economic downturns. He translated Shemitah as "shaking" and said the cycle can also relate to periods of natural disasters........."

112 posted on 09/07/2015 8:05:51 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Elsie
2 Peter 3:3-4

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

2 Peter 3:8

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

Yeah. Any day now.

113 posted on 09/07/2015 8:16:09 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; ShadowAce

And if God didn’t give us more than we could handle, we’d never see our need and dependency on Him.

Again, where did Cahn make any predictions?

Did he give any days or events?

He’s warning people to repent and turn to God.

Why is there a problem with that?


114 posted on 09/07/2015 9:06:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

All the evil IS being exposed and what’s happening in the leadership in this country?

NOTHING!!!!!!

The obama administration doesn’t see any reason to cut PP’s funding?!?!?!

A Christian woman has been jailed for refusing to issue an illegal marriage license and by our government.

So where’s all the things turning around?

Get back to me when PP is defunded by the government, when marriage is officially recognized as between an adult man and adult woman, when abortion is made illegal again, when prayer and Bible reading are allowed back in schools instead of islam.

God will not bless sin or corrupt governments and sometimes good people get caught in the fallout.

If/when this country collapses economically, you think it’s not going to affect you in some way?

We live in an age of grace, but God is going to bring the Tribulation on the earth to judge sin. He would not be righteous if He left sin unjudged.

And what do yousay to those persecuted Christians who are getting their property confiscated, can’t find jobs, are getting their heads hacked off?

Get the American Christian prosperity gospel blinders off and look at the reality of Christians through out the world. The US is not representative of it.

Spiritual principles are spiritual principles and cannot be changed. Sin is a reproach to any people, and unbelievers who persist in it have no reason to not expect God’s judgment for it at some time or another.


115 posted on 09/07/2015 9:15:23 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: jmacusa

And God should bless the USA for what reason again????


116 posted on 09/07/2015 9:17:12 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

have you read the book or just skimmed it?


117 posted on 09/07/2015 9:18:43 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

One can look at the Roman Empire and see the moral decadence that preceded its collapse.

Yes, there are certain patterns that precede the collapse of any civilizations.

That’s nothing new. It’s been known for years.


118 posted on 09/07/2015 9:19:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Seriously, do you expect an evil organization to punish another evil one?

If there was a God fearing Christian person sitting in the Oval office and he did nothing about PP, then there is a problem. Evil will not punish evil as good will not punish good.

Jesus dies for each one of us individually, not as a nation. I do not live in God’s chosen land.

I don’t need to take any blinders off because I focus more on the good that is happening. I don’t have time to focus on the evil.

Spend more time looking at God’s work instead of the devil’s.

If the economy collapses, I will be fine. I have nothing to lose that I can’t live without. My grandparents have survived two World Wars. Compared to what they went through, I live in luxury. Then again, I have The Great Provider. He always comes through :)

I wish you the best and hope you focus on the light no matter how tiny it is. It’s less spiritually draining and it boosts God’s ego :)


119 posted on 09/07/2015 10:12:13 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: metmom

Light a candle.
Focus on God’s blessings.


120 posted on 09/07/2015 10:18:06 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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