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Catholics And Lutherans Release ‘Declaration On The Way’ To Full Unity
United States Conference of "Catholic" Bishops ^ | 10/30/15 | USCCB

Posted on 11/02/2015 8:58:07 AM PST by ebb tide

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The USCCB is seeking full communion with a "church" (ECLA) that has female, and non-celibate homosexual persons as "priests" and "bishops". The ECLA also permits induced abortion under certain conditions, including fetal abnormalities.
1 posted on 11/02/2015 8:58:07 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
The USCCB is seeking full communion with a "church" (ECLA) that has female, and non-celibate homosexual persons as "priests" and "bishops". The ECLA also permits induced abortion under certain conditions, including fetal abnormalities.

It (ELCA) is also a church that actively supports Islamism and the destruction of Israel, and is already in in full communion/cooperation with the Episcopalians.

Looks like the USCCB likes everybody except that Jesus guy and his book.

Mr. niteowl77

2 posted on 11/02/2015 9:08:48 AM PST by niteowl77 ("The truth is that this thing is not worth fixing up anymore.")
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To: niteowl77; ebb tide

I wish these bobble-headed RC Bishop were romancing the LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) instead. LCMS is, as a body, far more in line with respectable doctrine and discipline. We could sure benefit from that.


3 posted on 11/02/2015 9:25:54 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (We do not know how to pray as we ought. (Romans 8:26))
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To: ebb tide

Actually, this isn’t surprising in the least.


4 posted on 11/02/2015 9:27:26 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: ebb tide

Keep in mind, this is the ELCA being referred to as “Lutherans.” The ELCA is an apostate, LINO, pseudo-Lutheran group.


5 posted on 11/02/2015 9:28:03 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: ebb tide

E.L.C.A.
Tune: “Y.M.C.A.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k

“Luth’ran”
Doesn’t mean quite the same
As what you’ve been
Taught to know by that name.
We’re removin’
All the scandal and shame
Of a church that stands for something.

Luth’ran,
No, you’re not misinformed,
Yes, it’s true now,
We commune the Reformed.
No forced union
Made us bow or conform,
Just a warm and fuzzy feeling.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there’s no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please.

Luth’ran,
Won’t you please come along
To the Elca,
Where’s there’s no right or wrong.
In the Elca,
Heretics can belong,
They can teach at seminary.

“Luth’ran,”
But our fingers were crossed,
All our doctrine
Has been totally lost.
All that’s Luth’ran
Is what we have embossed
On our cards and stationery.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there’s no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please.

Elca,
Where it’s very uncouth
And unwelcome
To say you have the truth
And where seldom
Is a word ever heard
To discourage sin or error.

Elca,
Where it’s all shades of gray,
I said, Elca,
Where it’s hip to be gay.
Our umbrella
Is as big as a tent,
There’s no need for you to repent.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there’s no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.

It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It’s fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please. . . .


6 posted on 11/02/2015 9:37:12 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (The wag tailoring the doggerel)
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To: ebb tide

WHAT will Garrison Keeler do NOW !!???


7 posted on 11/02/2015 9:37:58 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
My mother's eventual break with the Leftist Lutherans was necessitated when a senior ELCA clergyman from the regional office came to her church and bluntly informed her that she would be happier elsewhere (after she told him that homosexual pastors were a bad idea). This was before the "official vote" to approve the move.

Within hours she was in an LCMS congregation and felt like she was in a real church again, instead of a secular social justice fundraiser. The USCCB should be avoiding the ELCA like the plague.

Mr. niteowl77

8 posted on 11/02/2015 9:42:53 AM PST by niteowl77 ("The truth is that this thing is not worth fixing up anymore.")
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To: ebb tide

Confusing. Thought that the Lutherans and Episcopalians had merged. So this is a fringe “lutheran” group and crazy psuedo catholics “getting together”.


9 posted on 11/02/2015 9:45:43 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ebb tide

Whatever it takes to make the ELCA go away. They are not even Christian, don’t follow any of Luther’s teachings, wouldn’t recognize God’s word if it stared them in the face.

I am ready for the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to stop be lumped in with these heretics by association of using, in this case, misusing, Luther’s name.

So ELCA just go away - merge with whoever will take you, but just go away and stop misusing Luther’s name.


10 posted on 11/02/2015 9:47:11 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: ebb tide

One cult joining another.


11 posted on 11/02/2015 9:56:01 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Charles Henrickson

“Keep in mind, this is the ELCA being referred to as “Lutherans.” The ELCA is an apostate, LINO, pseudo-Lutheran group.”

It’s funny you say that considering many members of WELS and CLC would say the same thing about the LCMS. And some LCMS members think there’s something wrong with WELS and CLC.

As one LCMS pastor put it:

“The history behind the break between the LCMS and the WELS was that from the 40s on through the 60s, the LCMS became increasingly liberal, as it adopted a higher critical hermeneutic (in contrast to the historical grammatical hermeneutic which we both again now use). At that time, things like the creation account and Jonah and the Whale were discarded by some LCMS professors and pastors as “metaphorical”, and in some cases, even central doctrines like the resurrection of the Body were denied. Citing Romans 16:17, the WELS withdrew fellowship in 1961. While some could say that it wasn’t until the 1973 convention where the LCMS settled this matter (at least in adopting its Scriptural and Confessional Principles), there still has been quite a bit of fallout that has yet to be cleaned up.”
http://www.worldvieweverlasting.com/2011/06/09/wels-and-the-lcms/

Also, you might want to check with your own leadership. LCMS quietly sent a delegation to the Vatican just within the last year or two. You might want to ask those running the LCMS why that happened.


12 posted on 11/02/2015 10:15:16 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

That pretty much sums them up...


13 posted on 11/02/2015 10:20:15 AM PST by piasa
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To: niteowl77

My sister’s family was gone within the day after the homo pastor’s vote. They were in leadership and substantial tithers. The female pastor did not bat an eye.


14 posted on 11/02/2015 10:30:43 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Charles Henrickson

LOL! One of your BEST parodies ever! BTW, have you ever heard from the E.L.C.A. folks about your song?


15 posted on 11/02/2015 11:30:57 AM PST by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: niteowl77
I always felt badly about defrocked Doctor (of philosophy) Father Martin Luther. He was, at the time, a shining star in the Catholic Church and a powerful intellect of his time. The Church was fortunate to have him.

He really had NO idea that he was the cornerstone of a reformation of any kind, let alone the cornerstone of the plethora of Protestant denominations. There isn't much to protest any more vis a vis the Catholic Church. I hope he's in heaven.

By the way, I'm Catholic.

16 posted on 11/02/2015 12:26:40 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Dutchboy88

Both are Christian churches in the family of the Christian faith.


17 posted on 11/02/2015 12:32:04 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide

I am a LCMS Lutheran.

The ELCA is not Christian anymore. It doesn’t even pretend to be at seminary.

If the Catholic church embraces them...


18 posted on 11/02/2015 12:32:33 PM PST by redgolum
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To: vladimir998
You might want to ask those running the LCMS why that happened.

There are many power parties in the Vatican. Let's just the ELCA and the LCMS didn't meet with the same people.
19 posted on 11/02/2015 12:34:36 PM PST by redgolum
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To: Biggirl
"Both are Christian churches in the family of the Christian faith."

Perhaps that is your opinion.

20 posted on 11/02/2015 12:42:37 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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