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Crisis for Francis as cardinals tell him: your synod could lead to the collapse of the church
The Spectator ^ | October 12, 2015 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 06/18/2017 11:52:22 AM PDT by ebb tide

Crisis for Pope Francis as top-level cardinals tell him: your synod could lead to the collapse of the church

12 October 2015

12:48 PM

12 October 2015

12:48 PM

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Update, 3.20pm Monday: As I write this, various cardinals have said they didn’t sign the letter, some of them waiting several hours before distancing themselves from it. Now Erdö says he didn’t sign it. It’s extremely hard to get at the truth. ‘Not signing’ can mean a number of things, ranging from an outright false claim that a cardinal supported the letter to panicky backtracking by cardinals who did assent to it but are grasping at the technicality that they didn’t personally append their signature. But the damage to the synod is done.

A group of cardinals – including some of the most powerful figures in the Catholic Church – have written to Pope Francis telling him that his Synod on the Family, now meeting in Rome, has gone badly off the rails and could cause the church to collapse.

Their leaked letter, written as the synod started, presumably explains why a few days ago the Pope suddenly warned against ‘conspiracy’ and reminded the cardinals that he, and only he, will decide the outcome of the synod.

This is the gravest crisis he has faced, worse than anything that happened to Benedict XVI, and he knows it.

And, talking of the Pope Emeritus, I suspect that, had he been free to sign the letter, he would have done so.


The cardinals warn the Pope, in diplomatic language, that (a) the synod is being hijacked by liberals obsessed with the narrow issue of giving Communion to divorced and remarried people; (b) going down the route of ‘pastoral flexibility’ could lead to the Catholic Church falling apart in the same way as liberal Protestant denominations; and (c) the synod working papers prepared by the Pope’s allies Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri and Archbishop Bruno Forte are a mess and going down badly with the Synod Fathers.

The seniority of the signatories shows how close the church is to civil war. Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Prefect of the Congregation of the Faith – the Church’s doctrinal watchdog – is on the list. So is Cardinal George Pell, head of the Vatican’s finances, and Cardinal Robert Sarah, in charge of the Church’s worship.

Sarah is the most prominent African cardinal in the church, along with Cardinal Wilfred Napier of Durban, who has also signed. Add to that the name of Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, and it becomes clear that the loss of confidence in Pope Francis extends far beyond the Vatican.

He is, however, passionately supported by liberal cardinals in Europe and Latin America, among them Cardinal Reinhard Marx, head of the German bishops. He can also count of the unquestioning loyalty of Cardinal Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster.

As the Catholic Herald reported this morning:

Two of the cardinals who signed the letter, published in full by [Vatican commentator] Sandro Magister, have prominent roles in the synod. Cardinal Péter Erdö is its relator general, and Cardinal Wilfrid Napier is a president delegate. [NB: On Monday afternoon, several hours after it appeared Cardinal Erdö denied signing the letter.]

Other signatories included Vatican officials Cardinal Gerhard Müller and Cardinal George Pell.

In the letter, the cardinals expressed concern that ‘a synod designed to address a vital pastoral matter – reinforcing the dignity of marriage and family – may become dominated by the theological/doctrinal issue of Communion for the divorced and civilly remarried’.

The letter continued: ‘The collapse of liberal Protestant churches in the modern era, accelerated by their abandonment of key elements of Christian belief and practice in the name of pastoral adaptation, warrants great caution in our own synodal discussions.’

The cardinals also asked the Pope to ‘consider a number of concerns we have heard from other synod fathers, and which we share’ and criticised the synod’s Instrumentum Laboris, or working document.

‘While the synod’s preparatory document, the Instrumentum Laboris, has admirable elements, it also has sections that would benefit from substantial reflection and reworking,’ the letter said.

‘The new procedures guiding the synod seem to guarantee it excessive influence on the synod’s deliberations and on the final synodal document. As it stands, and given the concerns we have already heard from many of the fathers about its various problematic sections, the Instrumentum cannot adequately serve as a guiding text or the foundation of a final document.’

Here is the list as originally reported by Magister:
• Carlo Caffarra, archbishop of Bologna, Italy, theologian, formerly the first president of the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family;
• Thomas C. Collins, archbishop of Toronto, Canada;
• Timothy M. Dolan, archbishop of New York, United States;
• Willem J. Eijk, archbishop of Utrecht, Holland;
• Péter Erdö, archbishop of Esztergom-Budapest, Hungary, president of the Council of the Bishops’ Conferences of Europe and relator general of the synod underway, as also at the previous session of October 2014 [He has now denied signing the letter, though there was a noticeable delay before he did so];
• Gerhard L. Müller, former bishop of Regensburg, Germany, since 2012 prefect of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith;
• Wilfrid Fox Napier, archbishop of Durban, South Africa, president delegate of the synod underway as also at the previous session of the synod of October 2014;
• George Pell, archbishop emeritus of Sydney, Australia, since 2014 prefect in the Vatican of the secretariat for the economy;
• Mauro Piacenza, Genoa, Italy, former prefect of the congregation for the clergy, since 2013 penitentiary major. [He now denies signing the letter];
• Robert Sarah, former archbishop of Conakry, Guinea, since 2014 prefect of the congregation for divine worship and the discipline;
• Angelo Scola, archbishop of Milan, Italy. [He now denies signing the letter];
• Jorge L. Urosa Savino, archbishop of Caracas, Venezuela;
• André Vingt-Trois, archbishop of Paris, France, president delegate of the synod underway as also at the previous session of the synod of October 2014. [He now denies signing the letter.]

Note that not all these cardinals are regarded as outright conservatives: Cardinal Dolan, for example, is gently orthodox, an amiable figure far removed from the thundering traditionalist Cardinal Raymond Burke, who has been excluded from the synod.

Moreover – and this is very dangerous for Francis – the main point of contention is not the question of whether the church should be give communion to divorce people in second marriages, or whether gay unions should be given some degree of recognition.

This is an argument about the wisdom of calling the synod in the first place, and expresses the suspicion of over 100 Synod Fathers that the organisers are manipulating proceedings by confronting them with working papers and procedures designed to push them in a liberal direction. Others are simply fed up with the amateurish nature of the proceedings and wonder why, after last year’s chaotic preparatory synod, the Pope left the same people in charge. To quote the Australian Archbishop Mark Coleridge, ‘At times our work has seemed more muddled than methodical’.

I’m one of countless commentators who has warned that holding this synod could split the church. Now it’s happening, much faster than any of us anticipated.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; heresy; sinnod
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Dated, yet prophetic article.

Pray for divine intercession.

1 posted on 06/18/2017 11:52:22 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“...and expresses the suspicion of over 100 Synod Fathers that the organisers are manipulating proceedings by confronting them with working papers and procedures designed to push them in a liberal direction.”

Iow, the Church has Jumped the Shark.


2 posted on 06/18/2017 12:02:03 PM PDT by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: ebb tide

worship the devil

lose your church

pretty simple


3 posted on 06/18/2017 12:08:43 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: ebb tide

The pope is the supreme authority. Everyone under him has no power. It is a dictatorship. The current occupant of the chair of Peter should resign.


4 posted on 06/18/2017 12:46:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: ebb tide
or whether gay unions should be given some degree of recognition.

THAT is a sin against God! Which I don't think will happen.

5 posted on 06/18/2017 12:46:38 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: ebb tide

The Church is already hollowed out. This could start a reform movement which is sorely needed.

Just think, there could be a Catholic Church instead of a political action group.


6 posted on 06/18/2017 12:55:42 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: ebb tide

FYI, it’s customary on FR when posting old articles to put “Flashback” or the year that the article was published in the title of the thread so that people don’t click on it and start reading thinking it’s a new article.


7 posted on 06/18/2017 12:56:04 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: painter
or whether gay unions should be given some degree of recognition.

It has already happened:


Vatican welcomes world’s only gay leader and his husband to meet the Pope


Pope Francis meets with, hugs same-sex couple

8 posted on 06/18/2017 12:59:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: I want the USA back

I am still wondering if the Holy Spirit guides the colloege of cardinals in the selection of the pope.

I have gotten one answer so far.. Most Catholics won’t even respond.


9 posted on 06/18/2017 12:59:19 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Never saw that in the posting guidelines.

I can’t help it if people can’t read the date of the article.


10 posted on 06/18/2017 1:02:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Just like 500 years ago when they ex-communicated everyone who disagreed with them and continued on their merry way?


11 posted on 06/18/2017 1:36:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide
I can’t help it if people can’t read the date of the article.

Don't be a jerk. That's how articles are posted, whether you've noticed it or not. The moderators will change the title of the article if they catch it. Your comment shows a lack of respect for your readers.

12 posted on 06/18/2017 1:39:06 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Just think, there could be a Catholic Church instead of a political action group.

Just think, there could be a CHRISTIAN Church instead of the Roman Catholic church.

13 posted on 06/18/2017 1:55:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: BlessedBeGod
Don't be a jerk. That's how articles are posted, whether you've noticed it or not. The moderators will change the title of the article if they catch it. Your comment shows a lack of respect for your readers.

Post of the thread...though I doubt it will be understood or heeded.

14 posted on 06/18/2017 2:01:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JPJones
top-level cardinals tell him: your synod could lead to the collapse of the church

and smiling inwardly Francis turns away.

15 posted on 06/18/2017 2:03:51 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ebb tide

*8the thundering traditionalist Cardinal Raymond Burke, who has been excluded from the synod.**

Any specific reasons given by the Pope that Burke is excluded?


16 posted on 06/18/2017 2:12:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

<< “I am still wondering if the Holy Spirit guides the college of cardinals in the selection of the pope.” >>

I can say “yes, absolutely”.

The Holy Spirit does not impose, but does propose. He is *with* the Church always. But, the Cardinals have also their will to give consent, to assent, or, to dissent.

You did term, correctly, the Holy Spirit “guides”, in regard to the College of Cardinals, because He does not guarantee the Cardinals College outcome. He proposes, but does not impose, until the Day of Judgement.

If we can all accept that God works in mysterious ways and that His ways are not our ways, and if we do accept such a thing, we must agree that many/most of God’s works are holy mysteries, of which no man is privy, for that is what these truths mean.

The Holy Spirit may will to be silent, but is that not a form of guidance, perhaps a testing?

The Holy Spirit permits human will to choose either right or wrong, good or evil. He allows for errors. Man is a sinner, thus God provides remedies.

In the case of Jorg, we all seem to believe time is speeding— that time is short, and that present times are evil, as if Satan has been allowed to prowl the earth and, finally, the Church as Revelation reveals. Others before us have doubtless felt the same in their day, but never before has the Church been so at odds within, as today.

Jorg is a suffering and God permitted this suffering. It is a test certainly for the faithful, and seems as if it is a separation of the sheep from the goats in real time.

The condition of the Church is always the condition of the world, whether it’s seen or unseen, thus our Lord wondered if there would be left on earth any faithful. I pray we repent and mend our ways, for the Church belongs to the Lord.


17 posted on 06/18/2017 2:15:05 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team forappreciatests coming... infinitum.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Are you a moderator?


18 posted on 06/18/2017 2:52:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

As a lifelong Catholic who left the Church due to Francis, Francis made it obvious the Church stands for nothing and can be evil. Funny world we now live in.


19 posted on 06/18/2017 2:56:00 PM PDT by Vision (Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid - Reagan)
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To: BlessedBeGod; ebb tide

To be fair, ebb mentioned it was “dated” in his first post.


20 posted on 06/18/2017 3:33:54 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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