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Apocalypse of James: Lost original Greek text of banned Bible book found at Oxford University
News.com AU ^ | December 2, 2017 | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 12/01/2017 6:05:11 PM PST by sparklite2

“The Lord said, ‘James, after these things I shall reveal to you everything, not for your sake alone but for the sake of the unbelief of men, so that faith may exist in them’,” a Coptic fragment reads.

He seeks to reassure his brother everything is as it should be. He describes heaven. He gives James the passwords necessary to guarantee his entry. He gives advice on fighting supernatural challenges. He foretells future events. He warns James of the circumstances surrounding his own martyrdom.

Many other Early Christian texts, some of them immensely popular, were among those banned. Names include the Epistle of Barnabas, The Shepherd of Hermas, The Magdalene Gospel and The Gospel of Judas. Yet others were attributed to more familiar authors — including Matthew, Mark, John and Peter.

But chief among them was likely to be one key concern: Was it the real deal? Three hundred and thirty years is a lot of time for fan fiction to rise and circulate, after all.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: apocalypseofjames; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; gnosticgospels; godsgravesglyphs; history; naghammadi; oxforduniversity
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To: ravenwolf

Oh, okay. I interpreted your comment as ‘why do people commit sucide?’

As for his suicide, he hung himself (Matthew 27:5) and then bought some land whereof to fall down and explode (Acts 1:18). Since there are no biblical contradictions, one can only be awestruck at his creative determination. His mission complete, he wanted to die at his own hand, rather than miss the spectacle he had in mind. ;}


81 posted on 12/02/2017 11:35:03 AM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2
It is one thing to hang oneself, but it takes real effort to disembowel oneself in the process of hanging. In other words he got lots of help.
82 posted on 12/02/2017 11:40:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I wonder why he went out and bought land, first.
Was he really that fastidious?


83 posted on 12/02/2017 11:43:41 AM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

The thirty pieces of silver was blood money. Also the price of a slave. He took the money back to those who funded the betrayal. The religious leadership could not have him telling the story. Psalms 22 foretold what would be.


84 posted on 12/02/2017 12:18:56 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Campion

You talk about rules, I talk about what I see and hear via online discussion by laity.


85 posted on 12/02/2017 12:46:56 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: sparklite2

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86 posted on 12/02/2017 2:37:40 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: sparklite2

Looks like another fakery find.....a dime a dozen anymore...


87 posted on 12/02/2017 2:39:20 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: caww

It’s not a hoax. And no one is saying it is canonical.


88 posted on 12/02/2017 2:41:50 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

....”He describes heaven. He gives James ‘the passwords’ necessary to guarantee his entry”.....

Now THAT sounds like it’s straight out of the mormon dialogue...secrets and passwords abound!


89 posted on 12/02/2017 2:47:49 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: Mark17
How about....”Let me in!” as the password....tsk tsk.

They wrote of passwords and secrets ....you know it's phony stuff.

Imaginations running wild back then when they thought everything had a spirit or demon hiding in the bushes. People were highly superstitious with plenty of historical finds to show that was the case.

90 posted on 12/02/2017 2:52:15 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: sparklite2

Well the title certainly speaks of it being a “bible book”.....so there you have it....if it’s just a literature find then present it so instead of misleading the readers...which it does.


91 posted on 12/02/2017 2:55:24 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: caww

If I could get rid of click-bait headlines I’d do it in a minute. Here’s an unrelated tip. When a headline asks a question, the answer is usually “no.” LOL


92 posted on 12/02/2017 3:03:15 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2
“Heretical 'textbook' of the teachings of Gnosticism would have been far more accurate..
93 posted on 12/02/2017 3:12:17 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: caww
People were highly superstitious with plenty of historical finds to show that was the case.

Here in the Philippines, I am in the belly of the beast, as far as superstitions go. Even some of the Christians are caught up in this. I have had to straighten out a few of them. Most of them believe in global warming too. I straightened them out on that too. 😊

94 posted on 12/02/2017 3:16:57 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: caww

“Heretical ‘textbook’ of the teachings of Gnosticism would have been far more accurate.


‘Fan fiction’ sounds less hysterical, though.


95 posted on 12/02/2017 3:20:51 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Mark17

Oh you have your hands full there in the Philippines.......Asians of all persuasions seem to have issues with superstitions......I see this even when they become westernized.


96 posted on 12/02/2017 3:37:07 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: sparklite2

I guess I can see his point, but that would be a
Hard one for me to do.


97 posted on 12/02/2017 4:40:04 PM PST by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: ravenwolf

Well, they say everybody
wants to go the heaven,
but nobody wants to die.


98 posted on 12/02/2017 4:44:22 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; metmom
"From what I can tell RC’s seem to think it [the key given to Peter] a physical object imbued with some sort of magical power."

I have been a Catholic for 66 years. I used to travel extensively, I have read hundreds of books and met thousands of Catholics, and I have never met one --- not one --- who held such a belief, nor have I heard of such a thing until 2 minutes ago when I read what you wrote.

Name one Catholic who believes your "physical object" nonsense.

Or concede that your statement has no foundation.

99 posted on 12/02/2017 6:12:25 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; metmom
Or....

There is one other option. You said "RCs" believe this. Perhaps you're referring to yourself, RegulatorCountry?

100 posted on 12/02/2017 6:13:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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