Posted on 06/13/2018 11:25:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
We should send Father James Martin over there to lay a serious guilt trip on the Australian Parliament. (And then don’t let him come back here.)
Not even one of them will break the seal.
1. How are they going to know if the priest reports or not?
2. Once the seal of confession is breached for this, what’s next?
Or what?
Vicki Dunne, the second member, pointed out that a priest who breaks the seal of confession incurs an excommunication that can be lifted only by the pope. In addition, it would undermine Catholics’ trust in the "sacred, sacramental and sacrosanct" rite.
No one mentions that breaking a vow is a mortal sin.
Sin is so rarely talked about these days. Perhaps if sin (and its wages) were talked about there would less of this sort of thing going on.
Ask them if it can be done to uncover illegal aliens and the requests will stop.
More than one criminal has blamed a priest for not stopping him when he could have. (after he was caught)
Such a law defeats itself. Who is going to confess to a priest something that will immediate result in the police arresting them. Passing such a law simply means that the perp is not going to confess. Now the perp will not even get any consoling from a priest to discontinue such activity. So the net effect of this law is very negative- Zero positive.
I would like to know how this is going to enforced also. Only thing I can think of is recorded sting operations or actual abusers claiming or recording themselves confessing to priests as insurance for getting caught for deal cutting sentencing/prosecution leniency. If it then applies to civil cases then I don’t see how the Church isn’t sued into oblivion. The priests can’t even admit they heard a confession much less what was divulged.
Freegards
True. But sodomizing an alter boy is also a mortal sin and a lot of priests and prelates don't seem to have a problem with that.
Once the church started down the path of tolerating mortal sin in one form they left themselves open to this.
I don’t see the point of this even if you don’t believe in catholicism. Once you have to rat out confession nobody will speak freely anymore. The cops still don’t get their criminals and now the priests can’t save souls. Its lose lose all around. Unless the purpose is to attack religion and actually has nothing to do with justice.
Because children/(and increasingly women these days) are the atom bomb of politics. You can do anything you want no matter how harmful or nonsensical, if you attach it to supposedly saving them. Whereas nobody really cares about anything else up to and including genocide, tyranny, and murder (of men)
I agree. It is a political stunt being attempted by the Australian government against the Catholic Church.
You seem to ignore or maybe you don’t know that this is not a problem unique to the Catholic Church.
Public schools had the same method of dealing with pederast in most of the twentieth century. Fire the teacher, hush it up and send the teacher down the road.
Yes, the Catholic Church will naturally be held to a higher standard but in the end, it is an institution comprised of men intent on protecting that institution and its image.
The Church can not change eternal truth because mistakes were made.
I am no longer a Catholic, but I find that a lot of people find it easy to ignore what is going on in their backyard or any other backyard to take a shot at the Catholic Church.
It is easy and a bit gratuitous, IMO.
Such a law defeats itself. Who is going to confess to a priest something that will immediate result in the police arresting them.
So we have one priest refusing to do his job because of someone’s beliefs, while the Australian priests provide secrecy, relief and spiritual succor to child molesters.
They can’t both be right.
Ya think? Maybe?
Catechism of the Catholic Church
| 1467 Given the delicacy and greatness of this ministry and the respect due to persons, the Church declares that every priest who hears confessions is bound under very severe penalties to keep absolute secrecy regarding the sins that his penitents have confessed to him. He can make no use of knowledge that confession gives him about penitents' lives. This secret, which admits of no exceptions, is called the "sacramental seal," because what the penitent has made known to the priest remains "sealed" by the sacrament. |
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