Posted on 03/23/2019 7:41:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Is Universal Basic Income supposed to replace all of our public assistance programs?
Or would UBI income be over and above, and in addition to, all of the public benefits people already receive???
As if EIC (Earned Income Credit) wasn’t bad enough.
No because money does not grow on trees. ....
If we got rid of the FED so they could not grow money on trees (computerized debt) things would be much better.
Those of us who have succeeded have a duty and responsibility to help those of us “behind us” to also succeed or at least survive but this requires two preconditions - they have to want the help (you can’t force it upon them)and they have to show that they’re willing to contribute back in the same way.
Socialism breaks both of those preconditions - forcing help and letting those not willing to recontribute to suck off the work of others like the grasshoppers and the ants.
Socialism fails every time because those who slack off grow in number until the system is unsustainable - every time - which is why those nations grow despotic because they have to force the people into work like indentured servitude, except at THAT point the people are no longer skilled and resent the forced labor and resist further.
It’s basic human behavior.
The most unique aspect of the American Experiment is the ability to move up and down the social/financial ladder.
We already have basic income Social Security and welfare.
Yesterday we saw a young healthy couple with a 4 yr old son purchase over $400 of groceries with my tax money. EBT card.
The cashier told us she had one young couple with over $1,000 in EBT card benefits.
I could see it working if you eliminated EVERY entitlement. Make government simple.
Biblical answer to poverty....
Is you and me not government. And the goats who call Jesus ‘Lord’ will be cast into hell because they wouldn’t part with their hard earned money and help the least of these. This is the judgment of those in the church, sheep and goats.
Matt 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
I could see it working if you eliminated EVERY entitlement. Make government simple.
Ontario, Canada has already discovered the obvious problem. It’s unbelievable that isn’t readily apparent to everyone.
Thou shalt not steal.
Wealth is produced, not printed. The only place the government can get money is from people that produce it. It’s one thing to tax to fund government needs, it’s another to just take from me to give to somebody else through law. That’s just theft.
There will always be the poor.
Eliminating EVERY entitlement would include SSI. What would $1000/mo provide? Health care. Throw in rice and beans as together they constitute a complete protein. Gets rid of food stamps. Then at the end of EACH year congress gets together and votes on what the NEXT year’s UBI should be. If someone doesn’t pay his child support guess where it will come out of? I read libertarian Charles Murray’s book on the subject. Made sense but the slippery slope of laziness would step in. Who would join the military if they don’t have to?
Then there’s the Fair Tax. Prices go down because it eliminates the IRS.
The Christians are not the sharpest tools in the shed when they dabble in “socialism”. This universal income argument is completely ASININE.
Anything that enslaves people to the state is NOT biblical...
The Left’s cultural Marxism language deconstruction agenda has built a use of the English language where terms no longer hold their meaning.
“UBI strengthens economic liberty at an individual level”.
Ignored by that statement is the idea that “economic Liberty” can simply arrive on your doorstep with a check that you, in your Liberty, did nothing, had to do nothing to obtain.
Yet, “economic Liberty” is entered into the lexicon of “normal language usage” as some sort of natural right that people have, with money to spend that they did nothing to earn. It will continue to be used, and indoctrinated into the sheeple’s minds as a “logical” “natural” idea to be accepted - “economic Liberty” a “right” to other peoples’s money, just because you exist.
Redistributionism requires confiscatory taxation. The Bible says “thou shalt not steal”. The voluntary use of property to serve others can only occur in a society in which property is privately owned. Publicly owned property and a society which does not respect private property destroys man’s sense of responsibility to use his possessions wisely.
Sorry sorry - I’m not saying I support government social programs. Just that, as Christians we have d duty to help our fellow man.
Help should come from US and not our secular government who can use “help” to buy or force votes and power bases (as we’ve seen).
A Republic... if you can keep it.
Read the Unheavenly City - it explains why “poverty” still exists - that and Poverty Pimps riding the gravy train
[[a monthly stipend of $1,000 ($12,000/year)]]
Swell- rent goes for what these days? $1200 a month?
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