Posted on 09/20/2020 6:51:07 AM PDT by MAAG
According to Luke 1:36 Mary conceived in the sixth month of Elizabeths pregnancy. That means that our Lord was conceived in late December and born in September. Are we inadvertently celebrating His conception at Christmas instead of His birth?
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On the other hand the record of the nativity in Luke states shepherds were abiding their flocks by night in the fields. This tended to happen ij the spring when lambs were born. So some would indicate that the nativity was in the spring and the annunciation was around this time in the fall.
Im not sure the date matters as much as the truth that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us
He was conceived on 03/25 and born on 12/25.
We know this by tracing the time when Zechariah was serving in the temple and the Archangel Gabriel appeared to him; we can pinpoint this time and determine the birthday of John the Baptist (06/24) and then the birth of the Messiah.
(Don't you worry; Christianity hasn't been wrong for two thousand years.)
He was conceived on 03/25 and born on 12/25.
If the date is so very important the time is also important.
Now shall we discuss how many angels can dance on the head of a pin OR focus on the things we really should focus on?
The Big Question is , “Who is Jesus?”
Mat 16:15 Then He asked them, “But who do you say I am?”
No, it isn't; a birthday is publicly recognized, even celebrated; a "birth time" isn't.
Why on earth wouldnt Christians have maintained the record of His birth? I mean SERIOUSLY: “Yeah let’s start CHRISTianity but no one remember when He came into the world.” Sheesh.
Here’s a thought: Mary conceived when the embryonic Jesus attached to the lining of her uterus; His name was to be called ‘God with us’, so with the implantation ...
Counting the time all were on duty and the eight weeks in rotation when Zechariah’s turn came puts the visit by Gabriel about 3 months into the religious year.
A normal 9 month gestation period places the birth of John the Baptist at the beginning of the following religious year (mid-March, remember) and indeed there are many who believe he was born on Passover.
PS - Why do people impose northern latitude norms on a sub-tropical area?
No, it isn’t; a birthday is publicly recognized, even celebrated; a “birth time” isn’t.
Is this going to be on the entrance exam?
LOL
I go with the feast of tabernacles. And the Word became flesh abs dwelt (tabernacled) among us. If the life of Jesus fulfills all the feasts this woukd make sense. Rosh Hashanah ir the feast of trumpets may have a very special fulfillment (at the last trump....)
It is possible if you begin your count from when Zechariah was working in the Temple.
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia”.
Begin your count when he went home, Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary’s pregnancy and you come up with a time in September.
The division of Abijah/Abias (in which Zechariah served) was on duty during the second week of the Jewish month of Tishri, which would be between 09/22 and 10/08 in our calendar.
We know that John the Baptist was conceived immediately after Zechariah's completion of his temple service; we add nine months to this window to arrive neatly at 06/24, the birthday of John the Baptist. (This was the day that Christianity celebrated his birth for the past two thousand years.)
Because we know John the Baptist was born six months before the Messiah, the math works out perfectly; it's 12/25, the date that Christianity has been celebrating the Birth of the Messiah for two thousand years.
That is what the bible study states, but in more detail.
It's very important that we know this time and place, because there are a lot of people who would argue the details and claim that He was simply Somebody we imagined, and that the historical records are inconclusive on the topic of His very birth, life, and death.
This isn't true, of course; we know He lived. And it's important that we know exactly when He lived. Because by knowing the exact time and place He was born, we can demonstrate (without the use of faith) that He did, in fact, exist.
For two thousand years, the date of His Birth was acknowledged by Christianity; in recent times, the practice of questioning this has apparently come in vogue. (I confess to not knowing why.)
If you could enlighten me on the purpose of questioning the date of Christ's birth, it would be a learning point for me. As it is, there has been nothing conclusive to demonstrate that the date celebrated for two thousand years is incorrect.
All 24 divisions served during the Feasts and so each one also served twice a year on rotation.
The religious year began about mid-March on our calendar and right away there were nearly three weeks of preparation and Feasts; Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, and First Fruits.
Then the divisions began their rotation. Comparing Luke 1:5 to 1 Chronicles 24:10 shows that Zechariah was of the division of Abijah, number eight in the weekly rotation.
Counting the time all were on duty and the eight weeks in rotation when Zechariah’s turn came puts the visit by Gabriel about 3 months into the religious year.
A normal 9 month gestation period places the birth of John the Baptist at the beginning of the following religious year (mid-March, remember) and indeed there are many who believe he was born on Passover.
Interesting.
Well one thing is certain. Christ was/is to have the preeminence in all things. But he couldn’t be conceived and born on the first day of a 12 month Jewish calender. I’m leaning toward his birth.
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