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There Is No Such Thing As A Future The Antichrist.

Posted on 10/07/2021 9:51:33 AM PDT by JAG 5000

There Is No Such Thing As A Future The Antichrist.

By JAG

October 5, 2021

(1) Intelligent extraterrestrials have visited Earth. (2) There will be a future The Antichrist. (1) and (2) are in the same category. Both are bald assertions without a shred of credible evidence in support. Its impossible to produce even one (1) Bible verse that says there will be a future The Antichrist. There were/are antichrists (little a, plural) in the world, but there is no such thing as an evil political world ruler, in our future, to be known as The Antichrist ~ try to find a Bible verse that says that.

So where did the notion of a future evil world political ruler come from? It came from unrestrained human imaginations and speculations. By the way, various people who have predicted a future antichrist, are on record in the public square, identifying The Antichrist as being: Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hitler, Henry Kissinger, Mikhail Gorbachev, Saddam Hussein, Pope John Paul ll, and Yasser Arafat ~ to name just a few of their many proven-wrong prophecies. Further identifications of The Antichrist by these folks have been microchips, bar codes, and zip codes.

Questions: Does the fact that they have been wrong every time they have publicly identified The Antichrist stop them from continuing to make more public identifications? No. And does their long history of being proven wrong cause their students to stop taking them seriously? No. It is difficult to break free from addiction to end times sensational exciting scary fear fiction ~ believing it, stimulates the blood, and stirs up the imagination and large numbers of humans are drawn to that kind of excitement.

Some have speculated that Daniel 7:8's "little horn", and Rev.13:1's "beast", and 2 Thess. 2:3's "man of lawlessness" is somehow connected to John's antichrists (little a, plural). But there is not one (1) single Bible verse in Daniel or in Revelation or in Paul's epistles that is connected in any way whatsoever with John's antichrists. Any alleged connection is nothing more than emotion-based end times dramatic sensational speculation.

The first century was plagued with false teachers. Jesus warned His disciples that "many will come in My name . . . and will deceive many." Matt. 24:5. Jesus also said, "many false prophets will arise and mislead many" Matt. 24:11. And He warned that, "false Christs and false prophets will appear" Matthew 24:24. WHEN did Jesus say ALL this would take place? He said it would ALL take place in the first century. "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until ALL these things have happened." Matt. 24:34. And it was in this context that John's antichrists were mentioned.

1 John 2:18 - 26

"18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. 20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 24As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—eternal life. 26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."

Interpretative Analysis Of 1 John 2:18 -26

John's first century readers had heard that antichrists were coming in their time of the first century. John says, "even now many antichrists have come" 1 John 2:18. John says these first century antichrists "went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us, but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." John's antichrists were first century Christian apostates that were at one time with John and the other Christians of the first century, but who turned against John and against Christ and became antichrists. There is no future evil political world ruler that will come to be known as The Antichrist anywhere in John's epistles or anywhere else in the Holy Bible.

These first century Christian apostates had denied that Jesus was the Christ and John says "such a person is the antichrist." John is writing this to first century Christians to warn them about these first century antichrists "who are trying to lead you astray." The antichrists (little a, plural) of the first century was an evil false-doctrinal movement and not an individual. "even now many antichrists have come." 1 John 2:18 And this movement was made up of "many deceivers" 2 John 7

1 John 4:1-6

"1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."

Interpretative Analysis Of 1 John 4:1-6

John says "many false prophets have gone out into the world" (of the first century). John identifies these false prophets as "the spirit of antichrist" and says even now they are "already in the world" (of the first century.) Then John says to those first century Christians (who are reading 1 John) that they (there in the first century) have "already overcome" these antichrists because the one who is in them is greater than the one who is in the world. So? So there is no evil political world ruler in our future that will come to be known as The Antichrist ~ a notion that is imaginative speculation unsupported by any credible evidence.

2 John 4 -11

"4It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us. 5And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. 6And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 7I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. 11Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work."

Interpretative Analysis of 2 John 4 - 11

John writes to his first century readers that they are to walk in love and he says "I say this because many deceivers . . . have gone out into the world" (of the first century). John says "any such person" is the deceiver and the antichrist. John then tells his first century readers not to welcome these antichrists into their homes. So? So John's antichrists (little a, plural) were first century Christian apostates. The Bible the word of God nowhere says there will be a future evil political world ruler that will become known as The Antichrist, and the notion that there will be such a person is pure fiction with no credible Biblical evidence in support.

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Regarding The Antichrist: The word antichrist appears only five times in the entire word of God ~ Genesis to Revelation. And none of these verses say a single word about an end time evil political world ruler that will come to be known as The Antichrist ~ we're dealing here with pure imaginative speculation. Here are the five verses: 1 John 2:18,22 (see 1 John 2:18-26 for context) . . . 1 John 4:3 (see 1 john 4:1-6 for context) . . . 2 John 4:3 (see 2 John 4-11 for context.

John's antichrists are: (1) not in our future, but in our past (the first century some 2000 years ago) (2) not one individual, but a multitude (of antichrists-false-teachers who denied that Jesus was the Christ) (3) not a person but a heresy ~ ( a false-doctrine movement that was active in the first century.)

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Many modern end times prophets believe The Antichrist is alive today. One of them in an interview said, "In my personal opinion, he's alive somewhere right now." Compare Tertullian's assertion over 1700 years ago that The Antichrist "is close at hand."

Many modern day prophets have wildly speculated that Paul's "the man of lawlessness" (2Thess.2:1-12) is a reference to The Antichrist. However, there is not a shred of credible evidence in 2 Thess.2:1-12 that connects "the man of lawlessness" to John's "antichrists" (little a, plural). Paul's "the man of lawlessness" is the first century's evil-insane Nero Caesar, who is also John's "the beast" of Revelation 13. For a vigorous argument defending this view, see Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry's He Shall Have Dominion, pages 386-394 on "the man of lawlessness." See the Subject Index "beast of Revelation" regarding Nero Caesar as Revelation 13's "the beast."

The far fetched speculation that there is to be, in our future, an evil political world ruler that will come to be known as The Antichrist, is one element in a larger defeatist system of end times eschatological teaching that the Lord Jesus and His Christian Church FAILS to be successful in carrying out The Great Commission to "go and make disciples of all nations." You've heard of JESUS SAVES, well this defeatist eschatological system teaches that JESUS FAILS ~ that the Lord Jesus' command to His Christian Church to "go and make disciples of all nations" FAILS to be successfully carried out, even though Jesus boldly says, "ALL authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. THEREFORE go and make disciples of all nations." (Matthew 28:16-20) JESUS FAILS (His Great Commission fails) sends the message of pessimism and defeatism to both the whole world and worse, to the Christian Church who becomes evangelistically paralyzed when repeatedly told we will FAIL in our God assigned task to evangelize the world. Can you imagine an NFL coach spending several hours before the upcoming football game repeatedly telling his team that there is no possible way they can win. This defeatist pessimistic eschatological system repeatedly tells the Christian Church that we will FAIL to successfully carry out her Lord's Great Commission to make disciples of all nations. So? So this far fetched speculation built around The Antichrist has far reaching ramifications of pessimism and defeatism for the Christian Church. This defeatist eschatological system teaches that the Christian Church will NOT grow to become a worldwide good influence on people and nations before Jesus returns, and that human history will eventually collapse into worldwide chaos before Jesus returns, and that therefore there is no need to labor to achieve Great Commission victory worldwide for all men and all nations before Jesus returns

So? So the far fetched imaginative speculation that there will be a future evil political world ruler that will come to be known as The Antichrist ~ is a notion that is not in the best interest of the Christian church.

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1 posted on 10/07/2021 9:51:33 AM PDT by JAG 5000
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To: JAG 5000

You keep believing what you want or think. Those of us who have studied and believe differently are not going to be swayed because of your post. If that was your purpose. Sorry.


2 posted on 10/07/2021 9:56:41 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: JAG 5000

Everyone is an antichrist until proven otherwise?

Is that a good starting position?


3 posted on 10/07/2021 9:59:04 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: HollyB

You keep believing what you want or think. Those of us who have studied and believe differently are not going to be swayed because of your post. If that was your purpose. Sorry.


Our puny minds assume it is one or the other. Note I said puny.

There are arguments for both positions. Note I said arguments.


4 posted on 10/07/2021 10:01:34 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: JAG 5000

You are correct in that there are many who claim to offer salvation, that lead us away from God.

However, as I understand the Bible, there is also going to be an eventual entrance of one person who will lead the world away from God, promising the world salvation.


5 posted on 10/07/2021 10:05:58 AM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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To: JAG 5000

You are correct. The anti christ was in the first century.


6 posted on 10/07/2021 10:07:36 AM PDT by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: JAG 5000

Well your argument seems to fall apart completely upon a simple reading of 2 Thes. 2, especially if we combine that with a reading of Revelation and note all the correspondences.


7 posted on 10/07/2021 10:07:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JAG 5000

I think when most use the term “Antichrist” the are actually referring to the Beast of Revelation.


8 posted on 10/07/2021 10:08:24 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: JAG 5000

This is a staggering lack of biblical understanding. Dividing the Anti-Christ with the spirit of anti-christ is a fool’s errand at this point.

I’d start at “What is the Gospel?” by Greg Gilbert. Easy read and you can get it online immediately along with study guides.

I would not wait too long because there is an imminent rapture watch for tomorrow, Oct 8, beginning at 11:15am EST and lasting for 80 minutes thereafter.


9 posted on 10/07/2021 10:12:08 AM PDT by Salvavida (Even now, come Lord Jesus!)
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To: circlecity

I’ve noticed that too.


10 posted on 10/07/2021 10:14:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JAG 5000

Everybody knows that the real Antichrist is Hillary Clinton.


11 posted on 10/07/2021 10:16:12 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: JAG 5000

Yes, it’s pretty much a concoction.

More info:

Antichrist

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm


12 posted on 10/07/2021 10:16:12 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. I)
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To: JAG 5000

People have the free right to select the path they think will lead them to Heaven or Hell. I still think that people that don’t believe in Hell might want to consider getting down on their knees every night and pray there is no Hell ... just in case.


13 posted on 10/07/2021 10:34:44 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: JAG 5000

The Beast (the AntiChrist) and the False Prophet are thrown alive into the Lake of Fire when Christ returns to set up His Millennial Kingdom. So he a real live individual.


14 posted on 10/07/2021 10:38:00 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: Cronos

Really ? How about the mark, without which one cannot buy or sell? Don’t recall a first century account of that.


15 posted on 10/07/2021 10:39:53 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Cronos

You are correct. The anti christ was in the first century.


Not according to every single REFORMER, that your church murdered, or tried to. Millions upon millions murdered by the RCC. How soon we all forget. Yeah, I heard the protest was over. Kumbaya.

http://www.redeemerfw.org/resources/reformers_antichrist.pdf

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html


16 posted on 10/07/2021 10:43:00 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: PeterPrinciple

So by reading the responses , have you changed anyone’s minds? Has your puny mind been changed?


17 posted on 10/07/2021 10:56:34 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: JAG 5000
And say, “Praise to Allah, who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification.”

— Surah 17:111

They say: “Allah hath begotten a son”; Glory be to Him. Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him.

— Surah 2:116

He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.

— Surah 6:101
So by extension, you are concluding that Mahomet was not an antichrist, insofar as he declared that his god was the same God as the Christians. He denied the Father and the Son, which fits the definition of an antichrist per 1 John 2.
18 posted on 10/07/2021 11:00:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JAG 5000

Well, if your traditions of men allow it, who tempted Christ? Who gets tossed out of heaven in Revelation 12.? For a bunch that claim Peter’s keys they sure have spent centuries smoothing out the very parts that explains that ‘key of David’…. And what role they are playing in the fulfillment of Peter’s words at Pentecost…. Talk about that ‘spirit’ of slumber..


19 posted on 10/07/2021 11:01:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: HollyB

So by reading the responses , have you changed anyone’s minds? Has your puny mind been changed?


Your point besides a snide comment?

Did the puny mind comment offend you? did you take it personally? Our minds are puny, who can know the mind of God?

Is it really important that we know the detail of who it is or that it is an individual or a bunch of individuals?

The big question is WHY is God telling us about the antichrist, NOT who it is.


20 posted on 10/07/2021 11:05:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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