Posted on 01/07/2024 11:07:09 AM PST by OneVike
As I was enjoying a picture commentary about the time king Saul attacked David, I was given an insight I had never previously considered. It's a connection that ties Saul's attack on David and our Lord Jesus being confronted by the religious leaders for plucking kernels of grain to eat on the Sabbath. Jesus used the moment in history when David was fleeing Saul to teach the religious leaders about the true nature of the Sabbath as meant by GOD. Yet, when you consider all the factors involved in the two moments in history, you will learn that there is much more involved than just a lesson on the Sabbath. Like many portions of the Scriptures, GOD has hidden nuggets for us to find, and in this lesson we uncover the connection of two schisms and the fulfillment of a 20 year old prophecy.
A schism is a division between people, usually belonging to an organization, movement, or religious denominations. Weaved into the incidents of David and Jesus are two schisms where the ones in control lash out at God's anointed. Thus causing a schism that puts the very lives of GOD's chosen in jeopardy, while ultimately culminating in GOD's plan for mankind's salvation.
Usually when religious scholars speak of schisms they are referring to the two major divisions in Christendom. One occurred in 1054 and the other in the 16th century, we commonly refer to as the Protestant Reformation. The schism of The schism of 1054 was the result of many centuries of problems between the Western Latin-speaking Church and the Greek-speaking church of the East. Added into this mix is the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in the late 5th century, while the Eastern Empire lasted till late in the 15th century.
The crumbling of the Western Empire left a vacuum of power and influence which the Bishop of Rome filled. In the East, the Emperor in Constantinople held power and thus influence over all matters they considered important to the Empire. The church leaders of the Byzantine Empire, were oftentimes forced to give way to the Emperor's wishes on matters considered important to the state. For them, even matters of the Gospel was their concern.
In the West however, it was only the Religious leaders who had a say in matters of the Gospel. Inevitably, major differences would bring things to a climax in 1054. This is when Cardinal Humbert, of Rome, entered the cathedral of Saint Sophia and declared that the Eastern Patriarch, Michael Cerularius and anyone who follows him, to be officially excommunicated from the church. As he walked out of the cathedral he shook the dust from his feet, and the schism between the West from the East was accomplished.
The next schism was the Protestant Reformation which would actually free the Gospel from the clutches of what became an unholy partnership between church and state that held sway of over 100 million people. A system that actually put to death anyone who possessed the Scriptures without their approval. Things became so confusing to GOD's people that they would be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the Monarchies running the kingdom, and the religious leaders running the Roman Church.
While the Reformation truly began many years before Luther posted his 95 Theses, the fulfillment of John Hus's prophecy about the “Black Swan" became the final thread for a schism which shook the very foundation of Western Christendom. This schism led to millions being persecuted and murdered by the old entity that could not stand losing control of GOD's WORD or HIS people. I am of the opinion that the Protestant Reformation was a………
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As Paul told Herod, I would that all men believed, but Paul knew all men would not, and thus the schism.
Christ called all, and wants all to come to HIM, but knows many will not, because the teachings will be too difficult for many men to accept. In that HE knew divisions would happen, even if HE did not want it to. Recognizing and taking blame are too different things. Knowing the difference comes from understanding that in GOD there is nothing that is evil or wrong. Thus, ultimately it is men's hearts that create the divisions.
So even if GOD condones a schism, HE does so, knowing it is best. It is an example of GOD using what men mean for evil, for HIS glory. Our free will gets in the way, and thus HE will use it for his glory.
I will add something Freeper, PeterPrinciple, once shared with me, which should also be considered.
The point of division is , Who is Jesus? is it not?That is the point of unification also.
Other points of division such as what color the kitchen walls should be should lead us to “who is Jesus?” and unification, but sadly, it does not.
Scripturally the following speaks.
For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.
(1Corinthians 11:18-19)There is much to reflect on there. It is not simple. IT is not a prescription which many want. A relationship with God is a wild ride. “Aslan is not a tame lion.”
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Ephesians 4:11-13
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
He didn’t say anything about break away if you don’t like something someone said and start a new religion, or tens of thousands of them.
Then we can presume you are in complete submission to your current pope.
And *petra* is Jesus, not Peter.
Paul specifies that in 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
The Greek here shows it.
https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/10-4.htm
Catholicism has usurped Christ as the foundation of their church and replaced HIm with a man. BIG mistake.
Yeah, well, get Catholicism unified before starting lecturing others.
There are 22 rites and then there’s the whole Orthodox issue. HARDLY unity of doctrine and theology.
You are Peter -— petros (boulder or stone) and upon this Rock -— petra (A large mass of rock) I will build my church. Two different words, describing two different people, Peter, and Jesus.
Catholicism makes many claims to authority that are not in Scripture to justify their hold on power.
Nobody dare question them at the risk of their eternal destiny.
That is coercion.
And yet, ironically, despite the claim that their religion is built on Peter and rejecting their religion as the means of salvation means hell, they continue to reject the duly elected pope. The number of Pope Francis hit pieces posted here on FR daily is staggering. And after rejecting the leadership of their own church, they turn around and condemn others for not submitting to it.
Kind of hypocritical, to say the least.
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