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Rodimer: Psychologist gave me bad advice (Fr. Groeschel, Bishop Rodimer)
North Jersey Herald News zz ^ | March 4, 2003 | Maya Kremenz

Posted on 03/04/2003 5:43:12 PM PST by Dajjal

RODIMER: PSYCHOLOGIST GAVE ME BAD ADVICE

Tuesday, March 4, 2003

By Maya Kremen
Herald News

The Diocese of Paterson is now placing some of the blame for an alleged serial abuser on a spiritual counselor who said he was fit to return to ministry.

The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, a prominent New York Franciscan friar and psychologist, treated James T. Hanley, during the 1980s, after Hanley allegedly abused more than 15 boys in a Mendham parish. Groeschel said at the time that Hanley's problem was alcoholism, not a tendency to abuse minors, according to Marianna Thompson, the diocesan spokeswoman.

The diocese removed Hanley from ministry in 1986, 10 months after Mendham parishioner Mark Serrano revealed that the priest abused him when he was a minor. Bishop Frank J. Rodimer then allowed Hanley to serve in an Albany hospital in 1987.

Over the past year, Rodimer has apologized numerous times for his mishandling of the situation. He said he would like to see Hanley in jail. He recognized in a statement that he was wrong to follow the advice given to him at the time.

Now, through his spokeswoman, he has pointedly named the source of that bad advice.

"'I acted upon advice given me at the time, and that advice all stems from Benedict Groeschel,'" Thompson quoted the bishop as saying in a private conversation.

Groeschel could not be reached for comment at his residence or his workplace. He is the director of the Archdiocese of New York's Office of Spiritual Development in Larchmont. He is also a professor of pastoral psychology at St. Joseph's Seminary, and the head of the Trinity Retreat for Clergy, also located in Larchmont. He is nationally renowned as a religious leader and has been called by some "the male Mother Theresa" for his work with poor children in Harlem. He has also counseled hundreds of priests, according to a recent interview on a Catholic Web site.

Hanley elected to be defrocked in June 2002, after U.S. Bishops passed new, harsher rules for abusive priests. He was never charged with a crime because the statute of limitations for child abuse had passed by the time the case was investigated. His alleged victims, who have come to be known as the Mendham Survivors, are some of the most outspoken proponents of the victims' movement in the country.

Two of the Mendham Survivors, who for months blamed Rodimer for failing to control Hanley's abuse, have shifted some of their blame to Groeschel. Buddy Cotton said his anger was sparked when he read an article published Feb. 19 in The Metro West Daily, a Massachusetts newspaper. The article quoted Groeschel saying that 98 percent of what was put forth in the media about the church wasn't true.

"I think Groeschel's more to blame than Rodimer at this point," said Cotton. "He's the person the Church turned to. Even today, he has this horrific arrogance. At least Bishop Rodimer is humble and recognizes that this damage was done."

Serrano said that he had been wary of Groeschel since the mid-1980s.

A few months after he filed a civil lawsuit against the diocese in the spring of 1986, Serrano said, he got a phone call from Groeschel.

According to Serrano, Groeschel was calling to get background information about Hanley, whom he was treating at the time. But Serrano also said that Groeschel encouraged him to distance himself from the Hanley case. Groeschel also treated the Rev. John Picardi, who was transferred from Boston to Pequannock after he had been accused of raping a man. The Diocese of Paterson said that it was never made aware of the accusation.

Boston Archdiocesan records obtained by the Herald News show that in 1992, shortly before Picardi was transferred, Groeschel called the Boston Archdiocese to ask if the accuser was "still angry" and "still in a litigious stance." Groeschel identified Picardi's problem as "an acute emotional stress reaction," and indicated that he "would not be surprised that within a few months (Picardi) would be ready to return to active ministry," the records show. In 1995, Picardi was accused of inappropriately touching a girl in Pequannock, and he was transferred back to Boston.

The Rev. Patrick D. Browne, another priest Groeschel treated, was transferred to the New York Archdiocese in the mid-1990s after allegedly having affairs with two women. In New York he allegedly had an affair with a woman he was counseling for marriage therapy, the archdiocesan spokesman confirmed Monday.




TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: bishoprodimer; catholic; catholicpriests; groeschel; patersondiocese; pedophilia; pequannock; priests; psychology; rodimer; scandal
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1 posted on 03/04/2003 5:43:13 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Judging from a previous thread, I assume that the first thing for you guys to do is to find out if Maya Kremen is a homosexual?
2 posted on 03/04/2003 5:49:04 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
As I've previously stated, the crux of my complaint / disappointment with Fr. Groeschel in the context of the Scandal is that from the earliest days he made excuses for the bishops guilty of serially relocating predator priests, helping them hold onto their cushy jobs amidst all the calls for resignations.

The recent news suggests a possible motive: that he had made severeal of these recommendations himself.

3 posted on 03/04/2003 5:54:50 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Welcome Lent! Just when you think it can't get any worse...
4 posted on 03/04/2003 5:56:34 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: Dajjal
Here's an FYI about psychological counseling in general -- I have no idea whether it is a factor in any of the cases involving Catholic priests.

Most employee health insurance policies do not cover unlimited counseling. Let's say that employee X's policy covers 24 counseling sessions per year. When X has a personal crisis, Standard Operating Procedure is for Psychologist Y to give him his 24 sessions (at two or three times a week, this goes through maybe 10 weeks). Then Y asks X if he wants to pay for more sessions out of his pocket. When X says no, Y pronounces him cured, and writes him a clean bill of health.

5 posted on 03/04/2003 6:04:23 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
" a possible motive"

Do you really think he had a motive? I think he was probably duped by these perverted men.

To me, the problem is using psychology/psychiatry in the first place to battle this when it is spiritual warfare that is needed.
6 posted on 03/04/2003 6:04:58 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: Domestic Church
I think he was probably duped by these perverted men.
To me, the problem is using psychology/psychiatry in the first place to battle this when it is spiritual warfare that is needed.

You could be right, but I personally have seen no evidence to support your accusation that Fr. Groeschel is incompetent in his profession.

7 posted on 03/04/2003 6:14:40 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Domestic Church
I take back what I said in post #7.

In the article, Bishop Rodimer and Fr. Mendham's victims accuse agree with you that Fr. Groeschel is incompetent.

8 posted on 03/04/2003 6:21:32 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
I don't mean in any way that Fr. Groeschel is incompetent.
9 posted on 03/04/2003 6:36:52 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: Domestic Church
Do you really think he had a motive? I think he was probably duped by these perverted men.

If he was duped, then Groeschel has no business passing himself off as a psychologist.

This article merely confirms what the "homosexual advocate" Brooks Egerton wrote in the Dallas Morning News.

Is Maya Kamen homosexual too?

This is the very attitude that has caused Groeschel to be in the stew he's in today. Blame the media, blame the victim, accuse the victim, investigate the sexual orientation of any member of the media who writes a critical article.

This nonsense does nothing but make those who make the accusations look stupid.

If Groeschel made these recommendations, he should come out and admit it.

Rodimer's at least had the decency to admit his role and ask for forgiveness.

10 posted on 03/04/2003 7:32:44 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Dajjal
I would like to know at what point did the Catholic Church become so secular that they disregard sin and substitute it with psychology? We no longer seem to need repentance so much as therapy. This is yet another problem that arises when we view persons as brains instead of souls.
11 posted on 03/05/2003 7:51:43 AM PST by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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To: Dajjal; TradicalRC
As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, [so] walk ye in him:
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:6,7,8
12 posted on 03/05/2003 8:44:01 AM PST by Delphinium
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