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Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone?
drstevej

Posted on 04/08/2003 10:29:25 AM PDT by drstevej

OBSERVATIONS:

[1] There seems to be a significantly reduced number of Protestant Threads (KJV Only being the exception for sure) in the FR Religion Forum.

[2] There seems to be a reduced number of FR Protestant posts in the Religion Forum.

This thread is a place to discuss these observations.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholiclist
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To: drstevej
Bible thump BUMP
161 posted on 04/08/2003 3:23:22 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Jim Robinson
When I first came here, out of curiosity I went over on that Evolution/Creation thread. I was attacked six ways to Sunday, for being a Jew, who reads and believes the Torah and the Writings, attacked for being a Christian who believes in Christ and the New Testament, just attacked period. I held my own with Physicist though and as he is most intelligent, all in all I learned something and I had a good time. If I had hit the abuse button forty times, I have a feeling you would say "Why did you go over there? What did you expect?" So the onus is on the individual to know what he's getting into and if he bites off more than he can chew, to deal with it like an adult, to grow up. Get educated and then come back and try again.
162 posted on 04/08/2003 3:29:27 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)
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To: Jim Robinson; Corin Stormhands; ksen; CARepubGal; CCWoody; RnMomof7; Wrigley; Alex Murphy; ...
Yeah, well there are a lot of people who think your religion is a man-made cult. In fact there are a lot of people who think all religions are man made cults. This is religion bashing as far as I'm concerned. And I do not appreciate it.

yes, and weve all heard and understood "knock it off" Rather I think everyones complaint is that the allowable discussion is lopsided in favor of a particular group - everyone discusses Luther, calvins and catholic theology etc -

YOU GUYS LET THOSE STAND

but if we discuss Smith's theological shortcomings - were "bashing" - and all is decided by mods who themselves exhibit a LARGE degree of favortism -

Ive hit the button several times when Illbay calls folk a**holes etc... - he swears left and right - what are the rules about that? -and what about this crap

"Funny. I have been a member of the Lord's True Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, for forty years. I have studied the works you mention in your silly, lying sack-of-**** diatribe, and NOTHING there rings a bell...Also, you ignore the fact that, despite all the hellish efforts of god-forsaken, Satan-spawned heathens like yourself, murdering, raping and trying your best to destroy it, the latter-day work of TRUTH has only gotten stronger, and that the ultimate prophecy of Joseph Smith--that the Lord is God, that Jesus is the Christ, that the Book of Mormon is true, and that the Church will never be destroyed from off the face of the earth despite the worst efforts of the hell-spawn such as continue to infest these threads--is coming to pass every single day.

Tremble, ye demons of the infernal pit. Rant, rail and spew your lying filth all your can, while you can. Soon you'll be locked away in the infernal pit, and the godly will be rid of you and your devilish deeds forever." - Illbay

yet these posts stand -

the discipline is unevely delivered and as a result - good folk are bailing and FR as whole suffers -

If this gets me booted - so be it

It is my conscience and the honest truth

I would be remiss in ignoring it

163 posted on 04/08/2003 3:51:46 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Yes, and he's had several posts pulled, received several warnings and several suspensions for his troubles. He's even threatened to quit and I've threatened to help in out the door. It ain't over 'til it's over.

I haven't given up on you yet either.
164 posted on 04/08/2003 3:56:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: All; Jim Robinson
hey, has everyone here donated to FR yet? I mean, so that you still have a forum to beat each other over the head on?
165 posted on 04/08/2003 3:58:29 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: Onelifetogive
I was told a time or two to "butt out" of the Catholic threads.

Yet, three hours after you made this post you came onto a Catholic thread of no theological importance to post this gem. I wonder why you're not welcome on Catholic threads?

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/888259/posts?page=7#7

167 posted on 04/08/2003 4:03:51 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Jim Robinson
I haven't given up on you yet either.

dont feel you have to worry about me - I can handle myself - just dont get between me and the donuts

168 posted on 04/08/2003 4:04:01 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.
169 posted on 04/08/2003 4:04:35 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Corin Stormhands
Kinda makes ya think it might be time to wash the dust off yer feet and move on...

Maybe this is the problem itself. Maybe this is primarily a political forum, not one for constant prostelytization.
170 posted on 04/08/2003 4:05:34 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
Maybe this is primarily a political forum, not one for constant prostelytization.

Yet somehow, here we sit in the "Religion" Forum.

171 posted on 04/08/2003 4:07:19 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM)
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To: ksen; Jim Robinson
It's not persecution to discuss and challenge deeply held beliefs.

That's not what happens oftentimes, and I'm betting is not what JR is talking about. I think it's more along the lines of going onto a thread having nothing to do with a certain topic, and then calling someone a pedophile because they're a Catholic (or an anti-black racist if they're a Mormon, or whatever) like I was called earlier today. That's blatant slander of the worst kind, it's not "challenging deeply held beliefs."
172 posted on 04/08/2003 4:10:22 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Corin Stormhands
The moderators are the ones with the bias.

I've been critical of the moderators in the past but to be fair, they're pretty evenhanded. Maybe it just depends on what moderator is getting which posts, but I've had posts I've complained about pulled, I've had some get warnings, and some which were ignored.
173 posted on 04/08/2003 4:11:59 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Delphinium
For a while there was alot of Catholic bashing. Why was that allowed? I didn't see the Catholics hitting the abuse button, or the threads being pulled?

Actually, some of them did when they were getting absolutely and insanely out of control.
174 posted on 04/08/2003 4:13:48 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Onelifetogive
In general, charges of "catholic bashing" refer to disagreeing with Catholicism

No, more like calling the Pope a "faggot" or a "drooling moron" and referring to Catholics as pedophiles, like I was called earlier today.
175 posted on 04/08/2003 4:15:44 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: fishtank
If you go back and read the political debates, say in the 1700s, you'll see a huge degree of incivility in those debates. And the Founding Fathers protected that "bashing" as free speech.

This isn't a government run public site and it's not your private property, so the whole "free speech" argument doesn't fly. It's like hiding behind the 2nd Amendment if I tell you to check your gun before entering my house.
176 posted on 04/08/2003 4:18:56 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Jim Robinson
And now I see the Protestants are feeling persecuted.

If I can add my 2 cents here, I think there's a difference between the persecution of being trashed on a personal level and the "persecution" of being asked to stop trashing others. I won't turn this into a theological debate but why is it that it's primarily only posts of the hardcore (in terms of sharing and spreading their beliefs) Protestants on FR that are trashing of others? There something going on at a fundamental level there.
177 posted on 04/08/2003 4:25:44 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: RnMomof7
Was your church friendly at the Council of Trent, or when they burned heretics..or do you think they defended the their doctrine?

WHy do you have to start in with this crap? This is what I mean, man. There's a certain attitude with some of the Protestants, specifically the Calvinists, that they own this board or something and have carte blanche to say whatever the hell they please to anyone. It needs to stop.
178 posted on 04/08/2003 4:29:37 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Jim Robinson
To add another few cents Jim, I don't think there should be limits on pressing abuse (unless say, there's someone clearly just hitting it non-stop for kicks). If someone is a moderator, that puts them in a special position of authority and expertise on the forum's rules, and thus it should be contingent on them, not the person pressing abuse, to determine when something is truly abuse. IOW, the current system works fine.
179 posted on 04/08/2003 4:31:50 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
What is LF?

Leftist Forum?
180 posted on 04/08/2003 4:44:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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