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Republican Liberty Caucus as a virtual third party
October 1, 2005 | Albert Abramson

Posted on 10/01/2005 1:18:41 PM PDT by maxxoccupancy

I have been talking to people about the Republican Liberty Caucus, but I have been having a hard time explaining the issue to people. Our statements of principle have always centered around smaller government and proptecting our rights. A surprisingly small majority of Americans support these two principles, but it's enough to form a political movement.

The RLC has its own statement of principles, and its own conventions. Members are not expected to tow the party line, especially for RINO's. I believe that we should sell the RLC as a separate political group that supports libertarians, constitutionalists, reform party members, and independents, as long as they support our core constitutional principles.

The idea behind the RLC was to form a political group that runs candidates (with an R after their name on the ballot) without the third party ballot access problems. There is a strong need for a large, big tent political movement that can get outsiders in. The few RLC members we have serving in state legislatures are good.

I believe we need a stronger base of support, and I think we need to approach the voters with a broad based alternative to the "two party" system. I believe that we need to tell voters that we are different form the GOP, that we have our own group, and the RLC candidates will stick to their core principles.


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To: maxxoccupancy

Why hasn't he been ZOTTED yet? IB4TZ


21 posted on 10/01/2005 4:58:10 PM PDT by chesley
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To: maxxoccupancy

22 posted on 10/01/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by TNPatriot (If we aren't the mainstream, why do we nearly control all three branches of Government?)
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To: maxxoccupancy

maxxoccupancy wrote:

What does everyone think?



REPUBLICAN LIBERTY CAUCUS POSITION STATEMENT
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/721810/posts



"So Jim, You advocate these positions?"


Mostly, yes.
But I'd rather repeal the 16th and abolish the Income Tax and the IRS altogether. And I do not agree with disclosure of campaign contributions. This is a privacy issue. I'd also like to repeal the 17th. And I'd like to go through all of the ABC agencies and abolish those that are not authorized by the Constitution, ie, most of them.

I would also like to see the RLC take a pro-life stance. In the very least, to recognize that the Federal Government has no say in the matter whatsoever. Oh, yeah, and I'd also like to repeal most of the so-called federal crimes.
I believe the Constitution leaves crime fighting to the states. Also, eliminate any chance of double jeopardy thru overlapping federal and state jurisdictions.

83 posted on 07/25/2002 8:35:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson


23 posted on 10/01/2005 6:10:56 PM PDT by faireturn
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To: glock rocks
Don't make me call up Miss Kitty...

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.

24 posted on 10/01/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: faireturn

That JimRob character has been around awhile and doesn't propose splitting the GOP vote in two.

This guy posts a proposal to split the party at random as soon as he shows up, then takes off. Typical troll behavior.


25 posted on 10/01/2005 7:01:04 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: darkwing104

Oh please do!


26 posted on 10/01/2005 7:02:36 PM PDT by glock rocks (Just don't molest the flamingos)
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To: maxxoccupancy

hmmm...it was an interesting post...shame you didn't stay around to discuss it.

IBTZ


27 posted on 10/01/2005 7:06:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: maxxoccupancy
I've got my beeber set to stune...

The kitties wait patiently for the ZOT...

28 posted on 10/01/2005 9:36:33 PM PDT by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: apackof2; Knitting A Conundrum; SE Mom; LibertarianInExile; Dead Corpse; darkwing104
I can see why someone would dislike the LP-I happen to agree with the general sentiment that it has become a national laughingstock-but I don't see what's wrong with the GOP trying to ingratiate itself with libertarians, federalists, Objectivists, and other people who are genuinely interested in preserving our gradually dwindling supply of liberties and freedoms, but who have become profoundly disenchanted with the political process.

The problems with the Republican Party today-and they are manifold-can all be traced back to a lack of conviction, and a reluctance to fight for the principles that made this party great.

As long as political hacks like Frist and Mehlman are running he show I don't see how we can progress as a political movement.

29 posted on 10/29/2005 1:10:34 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Seadog Bytes


30 posted on 10/29/2005 1:14:17 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: maxxoccupancy

Looks like the establishment Republicans are piling on!


31 posted on 10/29/2005 1:16:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! --kellynla)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I don't get it.

Did they ever consider the possibility that perhaps he never replied because of the reaction-immediate suspicion and hostility-that he was greeted with for asking an honest question?

As far as I can tell he didn't use this thread to plug a weblog, or for some other promotional purpose.

Since when is posting a vanity a no-no?

*confused*

32 posted on 10/29/2005 1:23:52 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I think the purpose of the RLC is to keep libertarians part of the GOP, not set the stage for their exit. If anyone's leaving the GOP it ought to be the RINOs.


33 posted on 10/29/2005 2:00:58 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Miers did the right thing. Now the President can, by appointing Alex Kozinski, 9th Circuit COA.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
They should take the Bush bots with them when they leave.
34 posted on 10/29/2005 2:23:19 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"They should take the Bush bots with them when they leave."

What makes you think they aren't the same folks?


35 posted on 10/29/2005 2:25:58 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Miers did the right thing. Now the President can, by appointing Alex Kozinski, 9th Circuit COA.)
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To: FOG724

Thanks for the ping. Interesting topic.

Too bad the thread got lost in all the ozone. I would have liked to have heard what various people think about this, one way or the other.


36 posted on 10/29/2005 2:55:39 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: maxxoccupancy
I'm all for it, unless they endorse a third party and elect Hillary!
37 posted on 10/29/2005 8:49:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Some are a little quick with the zot.


38 posted on 10/29/2005 9:10:01 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: FOG724
Postal! ...er...COASTAL ...grin
39 posted on 10/29/2005 1:38:13 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: Carry_Okie; LibertarianInExile; neverdem; NYCGOPMAN; Cacique; Tabi Katz; rmlew; ...
The Libertarians are trying to coax Cindy Sheehan into running against HRC next year.

I'm torn between wanting to believe that this is a cynical effort on their part to divide the hard core, unreconstructed left-and thus bloody Madame Hillary's nose in what's essentially a preliminary to the 2008 presidential election-and simply attributing this to the habitual stupidity of the LP, and their propensity towards engaging in cheap, theatrical campaign stunts.

I'm leaning towards the latter.

40 posted on 10/30/2005 9:17:25 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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