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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - Stridsvagn 103 (Swedish S-Tank) - June 8th, 2004
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Posted on 06/08/2004 12:00:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: snippy_about_it
Cuz' we'd be all alone here.:-(
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posted on
06/08/2004 11:03:00 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(I'm not lost, I'm "locationally challenged.")
To: snippy_about_it
Everybody always says speed and mobility is most important, then gun, then armor. Guderian used to say this, back before the war. When the shooting starts the old lesson, from WW2, every Israeli war, Korea, is learned again. Armor first (they call it "good protection" these days), then gun, then mobility. The simple fact is that your crews will not perform unless the armor is good enough. People want a fighting chance, not a death sentence.
There is an old saying, "Armor makes courage." This was from the old days, pre-firearm. Still true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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posted on
06/09/2004 12:36:19 AM PDT
by
Iris7
(If "Iris7" upsets or intrigues you, see my Freeper home page for a nice explanatory essay.)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; GATOR NAVY; Iris7; alfa6; Aeronaut; E.G.C.; GailA; The Mayor; Valin; ...
Sans fording skirts. Note the clean lines.
Above and below from this site.
Tom Clancy chasing his ex-wife in between taping anti-Bush interviews for the telly.
Do not miss the other twelve S-Tank photos at this site.
35538 Strv 103 S-Tank
Slow-loading but worthwhile:
Swedish Armor
In event of time-out or hot-link block, pull emergency lever
103StankAmmoLoadMattiasBrehag.jpg
From this neat page.
By loading on a trailer ramp maximum declination is attained.
From Swedes at the RAAC Tank Museum
But despite the extremely minimal silhouette, nothing, repeat, nothing is as low as Jean-Fraud Kerry, Komrade du Komunistas:
That Monroe Doctrine thang was bypassed by the Communist Congress' 1982 Boland Amendment making Communism in the Western Hemisphere a protected endangered species.
Jean-Fraud Kerry, not just French, not just Communist, not just anti-American--
Jean-Fraud is the real Red deal: French anti-American Communist.
[Cue Howard Dean/Al Gore stereophonic schizophrenic screamphony in F Minor with Ted Kennedy on mooing, cowbell.
Deutchegrammefon 666]
103
posted on
06/09/2004 12:51:17 AM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: SAMWolf
President Reagan used a good metaphor in Winston Churchill.
Churchill became Prime Minister on May 10th, the very same day the Nazis crossed the French border. The world watched the catastrophe in France with dread and amazement.
The Germans offered the English peace terms right after Dunkirk. (Folks mostly don't know this, was maximum secret at the time. Historian John Lukacs has written the definitive book.) Great Britain would keep control of the sea and the Empire, and a guarantee of no invasion. (If Hitler said he was not going to kill you, he meant not right this minute.)
Lots of British Big Dogs were hot for the peace treaty. Lukacs traces the details; Churchill kept them from going wobbly. Real pressure, too. Life sentences were promised, with daily beatings. Lukacs makes the convincing case that Churchill single handedly prevented disaster of an awesome magnitude.
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posted on
06/09/2004 1:01:51 AM PDT
by
Iris7
(If "Iris7" upsets or intrigues you, see my Freeper home page for a nice explanatory essay.)
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To: fdsa2
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posted on
06/09/2004 2:51:01 AM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: PhilDragoo
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posted on
06/09/2004 3:07:36 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: SAMWolf
Wow!
Getting a little misty-eyed over here in Sweden. As one of the last batch of pluton commanders on the 103C I have a special love/hate relationship to the tank.
One of it´s best features (a detail) but which no one has mentioned here but what saved our "bacon" in lots of situations was the ability for the tank commander to 1. take control of the tank and operate and fire from that position and 2. the ability to "ensa" (roughly slang for bringing together) which means that I could spot an enemy position or tank and lock on to it through my miniscule turret (complete with joystick operated 7.62 gun) while the shooter/driver finished engaging his target, then with a flick of a button the whole tank would swing into firing postion on my target.
That said the design was old and the tank certainly had it´s flaws but it sure as hell beat marching any day and on the jet engine exhaust next to my turret I could bring a brew up to cooking temperature in 2,5 seconds flat.
Or as our bumber sticker said "Infanterister på marsch uppskattar när man vinkar till dem" (Marching infantry appreciates when you wave to them).
IMHO Best VetsCoR thread ever - thank you!!!!
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posted on
06/09/2004 5:13:35 AM PDT
by
fdsa2
(Blair = Kelly donĀ“t you forget that!)
To: PhilDragoo
Sans fording skirts. Note the clean lines.Oops. Looks akin to "forgot to put the gear down". LOL
To: fdsa2
and on the jet engine exhaust next to my turret I could bring a brew up to cooking temperature in 2,5 seconds flat. LOL. A soldier's ingenuity is a wonderful thing.
To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for your posts. I love all the pictures and commentary you add to each days threads!
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posted on
06/09/2004 6:38:17 AM PDT
by
Johnny Gage
(God Bless our Firefighters, Police, EMS, responders, and God Bless our Veterans)
To: SAMWolf
I got yelled at for not running down the Captain when he said "Stop" while I was on the sand.
112
posted on
06/09/2004 8:25:39 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(I shall send poultrygeists after you! Beware the possessed chickens!)
To: Matthew Paul
LOL. And if the student saw only movies he would think we were all beautiful!
113
posted on
06/09/2004 8:27:39 AM PDT
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: snippy_about_it
Yes, I am short.
That's what makes people overlook me while I sneak into a good defensible position...
..unless I'm up against people the same height or shorter than I.
;-)
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posted on
06/09/2004 8:43:41 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(I shall send poultrygeists after you! Beware the possessed chickens!)
Comment #115 Removed by Moderator
To: Matthew Paul
Don't fret too much, the results in America would probably be worse. The teaching of our History is sorely lacking here.
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posted on
06/09/2004 10:12:45 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing.)
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