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THE PLANNED INVASION OF JAPAN - 1945 "Top Secret" (Now Declassified)
Deep In The Heart of TEXAS Blog ^ | November 4, 2007 | Unk

Posted on 11/04/2007 12:58:23 PM PST by CHEE

Deep in the recesses of the National Archives in Washington, D.C., hidden for nearly four decades lie thousands of pages of yellowing and dusty documents stamped "Top Secret." These documents, now declassified, are the plans for Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan during World War II. Only a few Americans in 1945 were aware of the elaborate plans that had been prepared for the Allied Invasion of the Japanese homeislands. Even fewer today are aware of the defenses the Japanese had prepared to counter the invasion had it been launched.

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KEYWORDS: invasion; japan; topsecret; wwii
Thank GOD for President Harry Truman.
1 posted on 11/04/2007 12:58:25 PM PST by CHEE
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To: CHEE

No. Thank God for Trumans right decision in 1945. But don’t forget that in 1950 he withdrew the American troops in Korea, which made it possible for Communist North Korea to invade. We had to fight and 30,000 dead Americans later the borders between South Korea and North Korea were the same. Now there are still US troops there keeping the ceasefire. Truman mightily screwed up then.


2 posted on 11/04/2007 1:07:34 PM PST by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: CHEE

Actually these plans were declassified in 1947 per order of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dwight D. Eisenhower, along with all most all WW2 classified except for those dealing with weapons systems, radar, the atomic bomb, and intelligence files like ultra and counter-intelligence.


3 posted on 11/04/2007 1:10:22 PM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: CHEE

4 decades. 61 years. Good article but strange math errors in it throughout...


4 posted on 11/04/2007 1:18:39 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CHEE
Twenty-eight Million Japanese had become a part of the National Volunteer Combat Force. They were armed with ancient rifles, lunge mines, satchel charges, Molotov cocktails and one-shot black powder mortars. Others were armed withs words, long bows, axes and bamboo spears.

I became friends with an old Japanese army soldier during the time when I lived in Japan. One day after a couple of biirus he broke out some old photographs. There were piles of bamboo spears that were ready for issue to the population at large and some rather attractive ceramic pots that were intended to be black-powder "grenades." He chuckled to relate that many of the latter had been sold to occupations troops as souvenirs without the latter knowing what they had really been made for.

I saw it corroborated in Victor Davis Hanson's writing many years later, but my friend told me then that both sides had based their planning on the events at Okinawa. That should send a shudder up the spine of anyone who has ever studied that horrific battle.

5 posted on 11/04/2007 1:19:11 PM PST by Billthedrill
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6 posted on 11/04/2007 3:51:13 PM PST by indcons
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To: Billthedrill

My father was on Okinawa during the battle. He was Army Engineer, building the first airfield, during the battle.

I don’t recall him saying which one it became, but it If I recall correctly, he said that it wasn’t too far from the coral ridge region where the worst of the battle happened.

I think the field was shelled by the Japanese a few times while under construction.


7 posted on 11/04/2007 5:31:03 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: CHEE
My Dad served in the Army/Air Force during WW II, and my uncle served in the Navy on the ship Arkansas. Neither one second-guessed the decisions that Truman made about the war.
8 posted on 11/04/2007 7:02:53 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: indcons; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks indcons. Lucky for us we got the Bomb in plenty of time to obviate the need.

For that matter, lucky for Japan that we got the Bomb in plenty of time.


9 posted on 11/04/2007 9:01:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Billthedrill

They were always finding those ceramic grenades at Sasebo. The base COs would give them to visiting VIPs.


10 posted on 11/04/2007 10:35:59 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Billthedrill
I saw footage of Japanese civilian families, including children, leaping to their deaths on Okinawa because of the propaganda/lies told them by their leaders about what would happen if they fell into the hands of American servicemen. Nauseating stuff.
11 posted on 11/05/2007 12:49:03 PM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: CHEE
The simple,undeniable,fact is that Truman saved hundreds of thousands (if not more) lives....American ****and**** Japanese.
12 posted on 11/06/2007 8:38:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: colorado tanker

Wasn’t that on Saipan?


13 posted on 11/26/2007 10:42:48 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
The footage I saw was attributed to Okinawa, on the History Channel series the last days of WWII. It may well have happened on Saipan, too, I don’t know.
14 posted on 11/26/2007 11:30:33 AM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker

I saw that too, and it looked like a series of stills taken on Saipan after we took that island.


15 posted on 11/26/2007 11:36:23 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Wasn’t that on Saipan?

It happened on both Saipan and Okinawa.

On Okinawa it was at the southernmost tip of the island. Peace Prayer Park is now there with monuments to all the dead of both sides of the Okinawa battle. All their names are inscribed on marble slabs with Japanese on one side of the memorial and Americans on the other side.

A little further up the island is the Underground Naval Headquarters of the Imperial Japanese Navy. One room there has grenade shards still in the walls where Japanese Naval officers committed suicide rather than surrender. You can tell how high the bodies were piled as the pock marks are only above a certain level. While hiding in the massive underground caves, mothers would give their crying babies over to soldiers who would cut their throats to prevent their cries from alerting the Americans.

When the battle for Okinawa was over there was not one thing on the island, either living or man made, that was over 24 inches high.

16 posted on 11/26/2007 12:06:44 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: SolidWood

No. Thank God for Trumans right decision in 1945. But don’t forget that in 1950 he withdrew the American troops in Korea, which made it possible for Communist North Korea to invade. We had to fight and 30,000 dead Americans later the borders between South Korea and North Korea were the same. Now there are still US troops there keeping the ceasefire. Truman mightily screwed up then.

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You can’t really blame Truman for that, like you can’t really blame Bush or Clinton for 9-11. Nobody had their crystal ball working.


17 posted on 11/26/2007 12:15:51 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: CHEE

One beachhead was to be developed each month beginning in Oct or Nov. Each beachhead would be prepared with three nuke detonations to reduce defenses and prevent enemy reinforcement.


18 posted on 11/26/2007 12:20:06 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: CHEE

I didn’t realize Col Tibbits passed away earlier this month. From the article he requested his grave be unmarked without head or footstone so as not to offer protesters a target.

SF.


19 posted on 11/27/2007 8:08:10 PM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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