The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Vera Cruz Incident (4/22/1914) - Sep. 28th, 2003

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[snippy_about_it]

Practice! I don't need no stickin practice!

LOL.

Especially with me.

[SAMWolf]

You'll get better. I bumped up the turn time to 10 minutes.

[SAMWolf]

Good Night Snippy.

Gonna take a break from the Foxhole tohigh, and catch up n some reading I'm in the middle of "We Were Soldiers" and actually get to bed at a decent hour.

[snippy_about_it]

Good night SAM.

[PhilDragoo]

American Colt machine-gun, model of 1895-1906, used in Russian Army

USS Minnesota (BB 22)

USS South Carolina (BB 26)

USS Michigan

Victoriano Huerta

En la conjura para derribar a Madero intervino el embajador de los Estados Unidos Henry Lane Wilson. Esta intervención fue fatal para Madero y el vicepresidente Pino Suárez. El Senado se alarmó ante la posibilidad de una intervención norteamericana. Pidió su renuncia al Presidente Madero. Negóse éste y esa noche, que era la del 18 de febrero de 1913, fue hecho prisionero junto con Pino Suárez. Al día siguiente el Congreso aceptó las renuncias no presentadas, proclamó presidente interino al licenciado Pedro Lascuráin, quien cedió el cargo a Victoriano Huerta. El 19 fue asesinado Gustavo A. Madero, hermano del presidente, y éste y Pino Suárez, la noche del 22 de febrero, por la guardia que los conducía a la penitenciaría. Se culpa de estos crímenes al general Victoriano Huerta.

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Hai Ku!
Bless you!

Mexico's greatest current
source of income is from
its folks right here

[SAMWolf]

Good Morning PhilDragoo.

Man, Snippy even has you writing Haiku!!

Thanks for the graphics of the different weapons.

Vera Cruz with Gary Cooper and Burt Lancaster. Good Flick.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[Darksheare]

That is one serious looking machinegun.

[snippy_about_it]

our resident sage
insight and wit we cherish
foxhole's PhilDragoo

[SAMWolf]

I think Snippy found her niche.

[snippy_about_it]

my niche?

I was hoping it was only temporary.

[colorado tanker]

Thanks, Sam, for an interesting post about a little remembered incident.

So many connections with the present - I guess my thoughts are along the lines of Darksheare.

Before the Democratic Party split over Vietnam 1968-1972, Democrats supported the military and its use defending the interests of the United States. Wilson acted "unilaterally" to intervene. He didn't ask France and Germany for permission. He succeeded in "regime change."

Interesting tactical issues. This might be the last time Navy landing parties were planned for use in ground combat, except in emergency. From about this time forward that became the province of the Marines exclusively. The Army and Marines didn't "transform" in response to the deployment difficulties in Mexico - after WWI they would enhance the transport capability (which is what we need today).

And wonder of all wonders, we didn't get caught in a "quagmire" in Mexico.

[colorado tanker]

Admiral Frank Jack Fletcher, USN, (1885-1973)

Frank Jack Fletcher was born in Marshalltown, Iowa, on 29 April 1885. Graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1906, he served in many ships over the next three decades, commanding five destroyers, a battleship and three other ships. He was awarded the Medal of Honor for distinguished conduct during the Vera Cruz intervention in 1914. Fletcher also held several staff positions and shore billets. Promoted to Rear Admiral in the later 1930s, he continued to receive important assignments. In December 1941, during the first weeks of the Pacific War, he commanded the abortive Wake Island relief expedition.

In early January 1942, Rear Admiral Fletcher was given command of a carrier task force with USS Yorktown (CV-5) as his flagship. After supporting the reinforcement of strategically vital South Pacific islands, his task force raided Japanese positions in the Central Pacific, New Guinea and the Solomons. In May and June 1942, he was senior officer present during the battles of Coral Sea and Midway, in which the Japanese fleet was decisively repulsed. As the U.S. took the offensive in August 1942, Vice Admiral Fletcher commanded the invasion of Guadalcanal and Tulagi, and fought the carrier Battle of the Eastern Solomons later in the month.

In November 1942, he became Commander, Thirteenth Naval District and Commander, Northwestern Sea Frontier. A year later, he was placed in charge of the Northern Pacific area, holding that position until after the end of World War II, when his forces occupied northern Japan. Vice Admiral Fletcher's final duty was as Chairman of the General Board, and he was advanced to the rank of Admiral upon retirement in May 1947. Admiral Frank Jack Fletcher died on 25 April 1973.

USS Fletcher (DD-992) was named in honor of Admiral Fletcher.

[SAMWolf]

I think that's one of the reason I liked the "Sand Pebbles".

[colorado tanker]

I think that's one of the reason I liked the "Sand Pebbles".

Great movie. Kinda reminds you of the Navy riverine units, where the Navy and SEALs basically acted as a naval army.

I miss Steve McQueen and his generation of movie heroes. The current crop seems like p.c. wimps by comparison.

[SAMWolf]

Steve McQueen, Robert Mitchum, John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, Gary Cooper.

Sigh!

[colorado tanker]

The Duke is always tops in my book. Despite the liberal crap, he was a terrific actor. John Ford (himself one of the greatest directors ever) is supposed to have said when Wayne was nominated for an Academy Award for Red River, "gee, I didn't know the s.o.b. could act!"

Still, there's just something about Steve McQueen's cool. Put Bullitt or The Great Escape or The Getaway on and I'm there for the evening.

[SAMWolf]

All Great movies. Loved him in "The Magnificent Seven", He sure went a long way from "The Blob"

[snippy_about_it]

Steve McQueen, Robert Mitchum, John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, Gary Cooper.

A man's man. Do you all even have any of those today? I expect you'd have to look outside of Hollywood. Of course, I don't see any new movies but I certainly can't think of any. Mel Gibson, maybe or is he too much a ladies man?

Inquiring minds want to know. :)

[colorado tanker]

The Magnificent Seven was a terrific movie. Problem was they killed off so many characters in the first movie the had to bring in lots of new characters in the sequels.

Your thread reminds of the Wild Bunch. The gang ends up in a Mexican town occupied by a pro-Huerta force, accompanied by a German military advisor. The advisor gives the Mexican general a machine gun. In the last scene the Wild Bunch fought it out with the Mexicans, mowing them down in waves with that machine gun. I think it was supposed to be symbolic of the end of the Old West.