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Bush higher SAT score than John Kerry (vanity)
Freedictionary ^ | 10-9-2004 | Me

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:56:01 PM PDT by SideoutFred

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/List%20of%20people%20by%20SAT%20score

Bush 1206 Kerry 1190

:rollin

Here is what we also know from New Yorker Magazine and UPI in articles from January of 2004.

-- Bush's SAT scores are higher than Bill Bradley's, Paul Wellstone's, and John Kerry's.

-- Bush scored a 1206 on his SAT, 566 of 800 on verbal and 640 of 800 on math. [Since the SAT's scale has since been "recentered," Bush's score is more like a 1300 today.]

-- Bush's verbal score would place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 93rd to 97th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.

-- His math score would also place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 94th to 98th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.

-- Using one method to extract IQ's from these SAT scores, Bush's IQ would be somewhere between 124 and 137. Hardly a dunce, that's at least in the top six percent of Americans.

-- We all hear of Bush's supposed college mediocrity, but in reality his "worst" courses were two C-minus scores. Accounting for grade inflation, Bush's worst grades are around today's B-minuses.

Recentered SAT: 1300 IQ: 124-137 Stupid: Definately not.

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To: Paradox
Not too toot my own horn, but I am something like that, with an estimated (via SAT and GRE scores) IQ of 135, but when I get nervous, I come across like a total idiot. At my best, I am not nearly as good as Bush when he is on the campaign trail..

Same here. I graduated first in my college class with a perfect 4.0 GPA and consistantly test high when it comes to IQ..but in certain situations come across as a total lug-head.

I have been known for cursing out, insulting and even physically attacking people (especially in my younger years) who make me angry. Especially lying liberal holes.

By the way, the liberal professors who gave me straight A grades seemed to like my solid convictions and never give up work ethic :)

41 posted on 10/09/2004 10:26:15 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: commish

You made need to be retested on the math section. :)

I was 1410, 800 Verbal/610 Math.


42 posted on 10/09/2004 10:26:34 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (John Kerry: The Wrong Candidate, for the Wrong Office, at the Wrong Time)
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To: Xcoastie

Good to see Al Franken and Jeanie Garofolo do "so well"


43 posted on 10/09/2004 10:27:33 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Eva; SideoutFred; Congressman Billybob
I have read that Kerry's GPA was lower than Bush's also

Considering Kerry graduated from Yale, why did he go to law school at Boston University rather than Harvard which is also in Boston?

44 posted on 10/09/2004 10:27:36 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: SideoutFred

>>>What subject do smart people struggle with the most?

I hear that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions...


45 posted on 10/09/2004 10:31:15 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Kerry's GPA from Yale was said to be a C-.


46 posted on 10/09/2004 10:31:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: SideoutFred; All

Do any of you folks know if Kerry and Bush took the GCT tests upon going military. Maybe they didn't since they were college grads but it would make an interesting bit of info.


47 posted on 10/09/2004 10:39:25 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Rockpile

What was the GCT test?


48 posted on 10/09/2004 10:40:23 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I like that explanation.


49 posted on 10/09/2004 10:42:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Eva
Kerry's GPA from Yale was said to be a C-.

Probably didn't bother to attend class!!

50 posted on 10/09/2004 10:43:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: July 4th; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Interesting Times; Chieftain; Defender2; Travis McGee; ...


Correct

MENSA accepts a variety of older tests and scores -

Based on GW Bush's college reputation as "Data Boy" I would place his IQ in the middle 150s or higher.

Jack Kennedy's IQ was 119


President Bush is result oriented


John Kerry takes credit for other's accomplishments and actions and his own fairy tales -

Recent examples are the posting of ex-Senator John Kerrey's "co-chair" on the Senate Intelligence Committee as his own on his official campaign website and the Silver Star with Combat "V" on his website; the latter a decoration the Pentagon and US Navy say is bogus as there is no "Combat V device" for a Silver Star and no legitmate military regulation or rule lists such a decoration for a Silver Star and John Kerry is the only person in American military history who is arrogant and stupid enough to still insist he had that actual Silver Star with Combat "V" device after being exposed as a self-promoting fake and a fraud.


P.S. Tell John Kerry I'll lease him 50 more IQ points with a combat "V" device for about a billion bucks.....




51 posted on 10/09/2004 10:44:38 PM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I would imagine most freepers are on the upper side of the bell curve. The addiction to constant and up to date information is actually an indicator of people who are not getting enough to process in their normal day to day activities. The stupidest freeper would very likely be around 110. Some of them, I am confident, are in the upper 170 range.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I'm afraid your logic is flawed. IQ measures your "innate" intelligence, not general (or specific) knoweldge. Free Republic draws from the same population that everything else is drawn from, so by and large, you're going to have people in lower range of the bell curve, you'll have some on the upper range of the curve, but the bulk of your Free Republic population is still going to be in that 90-110 range.

If you were to give a test on current events, then I'd agree with you that the population of Free Republic would likely score higher than the population in general.

For any "generic" population to have an above average number of people with IQ's over 170 would be a statistical anomoly. (170 is pretty damn smart...I'd be surprised if Free Republic had 2 people with IQ's of 160 or higher.) As an example here are some famous people and their listed IQs.


IQ 160

Bill Gates (CEO, Microsoft)
Jill St. John (Actress)
Paul Allen (160+, Microsoft cofounder)
Stephen W. Hawking (160+) (Physicist)


IQ 170

Andrew J. Wiles (Mathematician; solved Fermat's Last Theorem)
Judith Polgar (Formula based; Female World Champion in Chess)


IQ 180

James Woods (Actor)
John H. Sununu (Chief of Staff for President Bush)
Benjamin Netanyahu (Israeli Prime Minister)
Marilyn Vos Savant (186) (Author)
Bobby Fischer (187) (Former World Champion in Chess)


IQ 190

Philip Emeagwali (Extrapolated; Nigerian Mathematician)


IQ 200
Kim Ung-Yong (S. Korea; Showed similar child capabilities as J.S. Mill)
52 posted on 10/09/2004 10:45:30 PM PDT by birbear (<this page left blank>)
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To: SideoutFred
IQ and acquired knowledge is useless if a person can't assimilate information properly and use it in a way that is productive and helpful to others. Some call it 'wisdom', others might call it character. I believe these virtues can't be acquired except through a sincere desire to be honest, and by God's grace. A lack of wisdom and character is why so many "intelligent" men have become 'successful' criminals, theives, killers, traitors, abortionists and the like. So it's how you use your intelligence that makes it either an asset or a liability.

Bush has shown intelligence, character and wisdom, and that's why I pray he'll win the election. Kerry on the other hand has shown intelligence, deception, vascillation, and spiritual darkness, (as in "I'm a Catholic and I'm opposed to abortion, but I won't interfere with your right to have an abortion").

Just an aside, it's interesting that Kerry stated he was a "Catholic" in Friday's debate, and then said he would support abortion and embryonic stem cell research. The Pope has strongly condemned these evil practices, and has said that Catholic politicians who support abortion commit a grave sin. Kerry's actions and beliefs are a very poor representation of Catholicism, just as he's a very poor representation of an American Senator. He revels in the title but disgraces the institution.

53 posted on 10/09/2004 10:45:58 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: Publius6961
The most often misspelled word in Free Republic: "definitely"

The second most often misspelled, strangely enough, is relevant to this thread. Moron.

54 posted on 10/09/2004 10:46:02 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Xcoastie

fuzzy math


55 posted on 10/09/2004 10:46:55 PM PDT by kingattax (FreeRepublic leads...others follow)
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To: Paradox

I always thought I was pretty sharp. When I was a kid they gave my class an IQ test. A few days later the same guy who administered the test came by to take the "gifted" kids off to some sort of secret government program. I was packing up my books and readying my things as the names were being read off the list. Needless to say I was completely shocked when he skipped by my name. I thought there must have been a mistake. Still do. :-)


56 posted on 10/09/2004 10:47:07 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Keith in Iowa
I hear that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions...

Because they don't know how to do Prime factorizations and build the least common multiple...and the subsequent steps ....

57 posted on 10/09/2004 10:49:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: freespirited
The second most often misspelled, strangely enough, is relevant to this thread. Moron.

Are you saying this post is MORONIC? Or are you calling someone a MORON?

58 posted on 10/09/2004 10:50:33 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Would either score get into an Ivy League school these days? Just about everyone I know who was white and went to an Ivy Leage School got at least a 1400 on the SAT."

(Roughly) 1/4 of Ivy admits are legacies, 1/4 are recruited athletes and 1/4 are under-represented minorities (aka "URMs"). Leaving about 1/4 of the admission offers for "everyone else", the really smart kids, the valedictorian class president with the 1600 SAT, most of whom are actually rejected by the top Ivys today! Unless an applicant belongs in one of the first three classes above, Ivy admission, at least as far as Harvard, Yale and Princeton are concerned, is entirely a crapshoot!

Since Mr. Bush is a 3rd generation Yale legacy, yes, IMO he "could" be admitted with a 1206 SAT today, although that score would be pushing the envelope.

59 posted on 10/09/2004 10:57:56 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: SideoutFred
Are you saying this post is MORONIC? Or are you calling someone a MORON?

Neither. It's just that a discussion of intelligence reminded me of the word, which I so often see spelled here as "maroon." Have never been able to figure out why this is and have wondered if it is an inside joke of some kind, like "hugh" (for huge) and "series" (for serious).

60 posted on 10/09/2004 10:58:28 PM PDT by freespirited
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