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'EC' puts babies on potty even before they can sit up
Newark Star-Ledger / Austin American-Statesman ^ | Saturday, February 24, 2007 | Peggy O'Crowley NSL / Ricardo Gándara AAS

Posted on 02/24/2007 12:08:15 PM PST by WestTexasWend

-Austin parents part of the 'diaper-free' movement-

Three-month-old Sosi Hoerning grunted, frowned and flailed as she sat on her mother Larissa Chen's lap. Was she hungry, tired or just fussy?

None of the above. Chen gently cradled Sosi's legs and eased her onto a tiny plastic potty. On cue, Sosi used it, without a messy diaper in sight.

"It's a way of being in tune with her, like breast-feeding," said Chen, 30, of Roselle Park, N.J. "If you know it's coming, why not try to catch it while you can?"

Sosi can't even sit up yet, but she's a veteran of what's called "elimination communication," a form of potty training in which babies learn to use a toilet months — even years — before conventional advice tells parents to begin. While it's been mostly confined to "attachment parents" who "wear" their babies in slings, share the family bed and nurse their toddlers, the concept is reaching a wider audience.

"This is a gentle, natural approach to elimination that can be done by anyone who wants to try it," said Christine Gross-Loh, author of the just-published "The Diaper-Free Baby," who is now using the process with her third child, 10-week-old Mia. "I actually find diapering to be kind of a headache."

Liz Paparella, Austin mother of four, agrees. She is now training 3-month-old Sebastian, and was successful using the method with 2 1/2-year-old Lucca. (She did not know about the process for her other two older children). "But don't call it training your baby — it's two-way communication, " she said. "You train yourself to listen to their signal when they need to go and in turn they learn your cue that it's a good time to go."

The concept of introducing infants to a toilet is not new. In many Eastern cultures, where modern conveniences such as disposable diapers are scarce, mothers have been teaching their children this way for years. In Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, where for decades most babies were in child care very early, weaning babies from diapers is also a common practice.

Advocates say there are many reasons to try "elimination communication," or EC, among them saving the planet from the billions of disposable diapers clogging landfills each year. Others want to save money; three years of diapers can cost as much as $3,000, Gross-Loh said.

But for most, it's another way to stay in tune with their babies, just as they pick up cues the child is hungry or tired. They emphasize that it's a process, not a goal of training a child within a certain time frame. They expect that some parents will have "misses," the EC term for what most of us call "accidents."

"You can tell they're content. I think he enjoys sitting there," said Shelley Brown, 34, of Cranford, N.J., as she held 5-month-old Griffin Brown on his Baby Bjorn potty. Brown, the co-leader of the Union County, N.J., chapter of Holistic Moms, met Chen at a meeting of La Leche, a breast-feeding advocacy group.

Griffin was wearing BabyLegs, leg warmers that keep his limbs toasty while enabling Brown to remove his cloth diaper and get him on the potty fast (available from www.theEC store.com, which also sells split-crotch pants and underwear for infants).

Gross-Loh said the growing interest in the method might also be a reaction to the perception that children are being toilet trained later and later. Child development gurus such as pediatrician and author T. Berry Brazelton advise parents to follow their children's lead in determining when they're ready.

The American Academy of Pediatrics tells parents that children younger than 12 months have no control over bladder and bowel movements and little control six months after that. Some children, according to the academy's Web site, won't be ready until they're 30 months or older.

Currently, the average age for potty training in the U.S. is 24 months for a girl and 30 months for a boy, said Robert Mendelson, a Portland, Ore.-based pediatrician and an AAP spokesman on toilet training.

"Excuse my pun, but the bottom line is that a child cannot be appropriately trained unless they're aware they're going and can do something about it," he said. "Anything prior to that, the parent is trained to watch the child for cues. You can't teach a child to walk if he's not neurologically ready, and the same is true for toilet training."

Angelle Ferrell, a pediatrician with Austin Regional Clinic, is skeptical about the diaper-free method.

"If that's what a parent wants to do, fine," she said. "But I will tell them to be prepared for a lot of frustration. If they want to sit with a child at a toilet for six hours, have at it. Kids won't understand what is expected of them, but I guess there's no harm if parents want to try."

Farrell said she has had one patient whose parent had tried the technique, but that parent did not have much luck. "But then I don't know who was instructing them or how much effort they put into it," she said.

In the U.S., parents wait to potty train their children until kids recognize they need to go. "Studies show that if you start before that, it prolongs the process and creates issues like fear of the toilet," she said.

But EC parents insist that very young children are aware of their bladder and bowel movements, even though they might not be able to control them yet. It's up to the parent, sensing the child's readiness by his or her actions, to put the child on the potty.

Paparella is a mentor for 104 parents who are members of the local chapter of DiaperFreeBaby (groups.yahoo.com/group/austindiaperfreebaby/), a nonprofit organization with groups nationwide.

She uses a small plastic bowl to catch Sebastian's wastes. Once she gets a signal, like a wiggle, she removes his cloth diaper. "I hold him to my chest, facing away," she said. "I lift his legs into a squat. The best time to 'catch' anything is right when he wakes up or right after he eats. The strategy isn't foolproof but neither is potty training."

"The next step is using the Baby Bjorn seat, a plastic chair you put on the ground," said Paparella.

Parents can help develop awareness by making certain sounds, like running water, so the baby identifies the urge with the sound, according to Gross-Loh.

"The whole trend of waiting for the so-called signs of readiness can lead people to wait longer than they have to. We've had a lot of interest from people who potty-trained older children and had a difficult time," Gross-Loh said, adding that even working parents could try the method.

Paparella uses a hiss. "With Sebastian, I started at birth," she said. "When I get his signal, I make the 'ssssss' sound into his ear, and he associates it with letting go. We are working as a team. The idea is to have him trained by 15 to 18 months. That's when most people start training their kids."

Many parents who practice EC admit that some people think they're downright weird, with visions of frantic parents rushing to the bathroom to dangle their children over the toilet before it's too late. Others think it's all about the moms' need to be in control.

In practice, however, it's much more low-key. On a recent afternoon, Brown and Chen nursed their babies, held them, and sat them on their potties occasionally. Call it a coincidence, but as if responding on cue, Griffin and Sosi did their duty, much to the delight of their moms.


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1 posted on 02/24/2007 12:08:18 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: WestTexasWend

No way to raise up an astronaut.


2 posted on 02/24/2007 12:09:46 PM PST by damper99
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To: WestTexasWend

They should let her drive their car.


3 posted on 02/24/2007 12:11:14 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: damper99

You win. I don't think that one will be topped on this thread.


4 posted on 02/24/2007 12:11:17 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: WestTexasWend
Odds are good this gonna be a great thread.

Good job. ;-)

5 posted on 02/24/2007 12:11:18 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: WestTexasWend

Words fail me and believe you me, that ain't a common occurrence.


6 posted on 02/24/2007 12:13:28 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: WestTexasWend

Maybe they ought to let her go to college now. They're toilet training them now, Is kindergarden next week?


7 posted on 02/24/2007 12:14:36 PM PST by desherwood7
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To: WestTexasWend

I guess one could say these children are not being "pampered"


.......badumbump.........


8 posted on 02/24/2007 12:17:12 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: WestTexasWend

It's just a catch program.


9 posted on 02/24/2007 12:17:32 PM PST by CindyDawg (Duncan Hunter Tagline in process)
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To: WestTexasWend
available from www.theEC store.com, which also sells split-crotch pants and underwear for infants



Does anyone else find this concept a bit disturbing?
10 posted on 02/24/2007 12:19:18 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: WestTexasWend

My kids were all potty trained by 2, my wife is an absolute wizard at it.

However, her method is impossible without 2 things: Stay-at-home mom and very in tune with the children.

We didn't start training them until about 13 months, though.


11 posted on 02/24/2007 12:20:02 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: WestTexasWend; Slings and Arrows

BTTT


12 posted on 02/24/2007 12:23:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WestTexasWend
Corporate officers at Pampers (the baby diaper company) have released a report that found the babies who were never dipered as infants became incontinent before puberty.
13 posted on 02/24/2007 12:23:25 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Actually, they have those kinds of kids wear in Asia, from what I understand.....kids just have to squat and go....


14 posted on 02/24/2007 12:25:23 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: flashbunny

I can't wait for all the psychological and sociological studies that this will spawn 15-30 years from now... LOL


15 posted on 02/24/2007 12:32:09 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: WestTexasWend

Someone will post a pic of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog ...


16 posted on 02/24/2007 12:33:47 PM PST by ikka (The US Catholic Bishops' position on immigration is objectively anti-American.)
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To: WestTexasWend

In America most women go back to work about 6 weeks after their children are born and they dont even see them for 10 hurs out of the day. makes this pretty hard to do,even if it works.


17 posted on 02/24/2007 12:34:15 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: goodnesswins
Actually, they have those kinds of kids' wear in Asia, from what I understand ... kids just have to squat and go ...

That's exactly what toddlers do in much of the world, just squat and go, wherever they are. Unfortunately, it's also what many adults do in much of the world.

This is not a trend that I want to see catch on in the U.S.!

18 posted on 02/24/2007 12:35:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: WestTexasWend

The entire mess of this topic just went right through me, didn't see it coming at all. Oh, gotta leave now.


19 posted on 02/24/2007 12:36:49 PM PST by Wuli
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To: WestTexasWend
This is "training" the parents if you ask me. Another way for the hyper-educated to feel superior. MY little Snookie never wore diapers!...blah blah blah"

"Toilet training" happens in one day - its the intersection of the day a child has the ability with the day he or she has the desire to do so.

With the arrival of my twins, my mantra became, "when they're 21, they'll both be able to use the toilet, tie their shoes, ride a bike, and no one will remember how long it took them to get there." (And no one will remember what my house looked like either!) I played with my kids every second I could. It was much more fun to chase them around the house yelling, "WHo Stinks???" and have them run away giggling while accusing the other of being the offender than it would be to worry about "looking for their cues" all day long.

20 posted on 02/24/2007 12:39:31 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Pennies from Google DO add up! Support "Wounded Warrior Project" at www.goodsearch.com)
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