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Bush Winning Gore Backers' High Praises [Dem Leaders say: We're glad "Gore did not win"] NYT
The NY Times ^ | Oct. 20, 2001 | Richard Berke

Posted on 10/19/2001 9:02:34 PM PDT by summer

October 20, 2001

THE DEMOCRATS

Bush Winning Gore Backers' High Praises

By RICHARD L. BERKE

WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 — As he leads the country in a war on terrorism, President Bush has won over some unlikely supporters, prominent Democrats who campaigned for Al Gore in last year's presidential campaign.

Many Democrats who once dismissed Mr. Bush as too naïve and too dependent on advisers to steer the United States through an international crisis are now praising his and his advisers' performance. Some are even privately expressing satisfaction that Mr. Gore, who tried to make his foreign affairs expertise an issue in the campaign, did not win.

Sounding relieved that Mr. Gore is not president, Representative Jim Moran, a Virginia Democrat, said: "I feel comfortable with President Bush. I never thought I would utter those words."

He continued: "Even though I'm a Democrat and think the Supreme Court selected our president, I don't think it's to our disadvantage to have George Bush as president. Sometimes you need a certain amount of braggadocio in your leaders."

Perhaps out of a desire to rally around Mr. Bush, not one of more than 15 prominent Gore loyalists interviewed said their candidate would have done a better job.

The most blunt assessments were from Democrats who spoke on the condition that they not be identified. Several said the nation was fortunate to have Mr. Bush in power, and they questioned whether Mr. Gore would have surrounded himself with as experienced a foreign policy team as Mr. Bush did. Citing Mr. Gore's sometimes rambling speech in Des Moines on Sept. 29 in which he praised Mr. Bush, some Democrats also questioned whether the former vice president would have been as nimble at communicating to the public.

One former senator who was a staunch Gore backer said he was relieved that Mr. Bush was president because he feared that the former vice president would think he had all the answers.

"He may know too much," he said. "And he would have tried to micromanage everything."

A top appointee in the Clinton administration. criticizing the qualifications of those he expected to be Mr. Gore's foreign policy team, said he could not imagine Mr. Gore's foreign policy advisers "running a war against Afghanistan."

Representative Norm Dicks, a Washington Democrat who was one of Mr. Gore's most ardent supporters, said his candidate might have handled the crisis as well as Mr. Bush — but not necessarily any better.

"People were wondering if Bush was up to it," Mr. Dicks said. "I think he's answered that. The guy has really impressed people. One of the real strengths of this administration is that people do feel comfortable about Colin Powell and Dick Cheney in particular."

Of course, no one will ever know how the crisis would have unfolded in a Gore administration. But discussions about how Mr. Gore might have tackled the crisis have reverberated in the capital, perhaps because last year's election was so close.

In a statement today through an aide, Mr. Gore declined to join in the speculation. "I have consistently declined either in public or private to say what I would have done or what I would do now during this war on terrorism," he said. "As I said in Iowa, George W. Bush is my commander in chief, he is president of the United States. And I refuse to second guess his decisions in this matter."

Several Gore loyalists said Mr. Gore probably would have also turned to seasoned professionals to staff his administration. Richard Holbrooke, the veteran diplomat, was frequently mentioned as a likely choice for secretary of state. Leon Fuerth, Mr. Gore's longtime foreign policy adviser, might have served as White House national security adviser.

Still, many Democrats said they felt particularly reassured by Mr. Bush's team, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, Colin L. Powell, the secretary of state and Donald H. Rumsfeld, the defense secretary.

The diminished confidence in Mr. Gore that some Democrats are expressing is a big change from last year's campaign, when Gore supporters argued that Mr. Gore should be elected because of his grasp of world affairs, if for no other reason. At a rally only days before the election, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, Mr. Gore's running mate, asserted, "When I think of a solitary figure standing in the Oval Office, weighing life and death decisions that can affect the security of our country and the stability of our world, I see Al Gore."

Now, not even Mr. Gore's closest aides would assert that their candidate would have done any better.

"The Bush administration has a number of people with tremendous experience in foreign policy and crises," said Carter Eskew, one of Mr. Gore's top political advisers. "They were able to add a sense of stability to the situation, and the president has led them well. Gore himself would have had that experience."

One foreign policy adviser to Mr. Gore said that he would have been more assertive earlier in engaging other nations. But, he said, "I don't think our conduct at the tactical or strategic level would be that much different."

Whatever Mr. Gore's capabilities, others Democrats noted that members of their party are known to be more aggressive defenders of Israel than Republicans, which may have complicated diplomatic objectives in the region.

"Because of the politics of the Democratic Party," Mr. Moran said, "it may have been more difficult to work with Pakistan versus India and to have worked with some of the Arab nations against the wishes of Israel."

Not all Democrats were skeptical about Mr. Gore. Some noted that he was much more emphatic during the campaign than Mr. Bush about the need to deal with terrorists and for nation building. Others said Mr. Gore did not need to rely on as talented advisers because he was far more steeped in international affairs.

For better or worse, they added, he would probably have been more hawkish about military action than Mr. Bush, because he often pressed President Clinton to be more aggressive, particularly in the Balkans.

"I don't think there would have been a lick of difference," said Rahm Emanuel, a senior adviser in the Clinton White House. "I remember the counsel the vice president provided to the president many times during military action."

Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the majority leader, said it was unfair to assume that Mr. Gore would not have done as well.

"I am very comforted by the way the president has handled all this," he said. "He has more than risen to the occasion. He's impressed me a lot. Al Gore could have been every bit as capable of rising to an occasion like this."


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To: Snow Bunny
"In a statement today through an aide, Mr. Gore declined to join in the speculation. "I have consistently declined either in public or private to say what I would have done or what I would do now during this war on terrorism," he said. "As I said in Iowa, George W. Bush is my commander in chief, he is president of the United States."

PURE AL GORE: EVASIVE, NOT GIVING A THING, WISHY-WASHY, COVERING HIS ARSE, REAFFIRMING HIS "CONSISTENCY." THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE WORLD IS SO GLAD THAT HE'S NOT IN THERE.
101 posted on 10/19/2001 9:52:13 PM PDT by hawaiian
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Landru; Snow Bunny; goldilucky; KLT; Notin04; Bella_Bru; summer
thanks for the ping - good post summer - BTTT
102 posted on 10/19/2001 9:52:42 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: summer
Make that: the first GOP governor ever reelected here in FL.

Any data on that?

103 posted on 10/19/2001 9:53:12 PM PDT by lepton
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To: summer
Not only has Hell frozen over but they are playing ice hockey on the River Styx.
104 posted on 10/19/2001 9:53:47 PM PDT by SurferDoc
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To: hawaiian
"... George W. Bush is my commander in chief, he is president of the United States.""

This is what Al Gore should have said in Florida back in Nov 2000.
105 posted on 10/19/2001 9:54:19 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
One foreign policy adviser to Mr. Gore said that he would have been more assertive earlier in engaging other nations. But, he said, "I don't think our conduct at the tactical or strategic level would be that much different."

What the heck did they think President Bush was doing immediately after 9/11? And, most importantly, before the terrorist attack, Bush was over in Europe twice winning friends for this country. Not to mention all the heads of state he entertained at the White House.

Clintoon made Algore our liason to Russia. When Pres. Putin asked Gore to sponsor Russia in NATO, Gore was too stupid to see that the cold war was over, and told Putin the time was not right. Albright gave Putin the same answer. President Bush saw the golden opportunity, made an awesome impression on Putin, and got his cooperation in his goals. Ditto Tony Blair over in the U.K. President Bush made friends wherever he went in Europe. And that's part of the reason we have heads of state helping us in the war against the terrorists. The NYT is STILL slime.

106 posted on 10/19/2001 9:54:31 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Faraday
They are trying to figure out how to position themselves with respect to Bush for the 2002 elections.

But of course.What else can they say about a President with an unheard of 90% approval rating?
107 posted on 10/19/2001 9:54:40 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: lepton
Everyone knows it. Can you prove me wrong? There has never been a GOP governor reelected in this state -- but, wait until Nov 2002, when Jeb Bush makes history.
108 posted on 10/19/2001 9:55:14 PM PDT by summer
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To: ChaseR
You're welcome, and just about everyone on your ping list already posted on this thread! :)
109 posted on 10/19/2001 9:56:03 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Thanks for posting this article :-)

When a Republican President can get this kind of support from the Democrats, he has done the impossible. I know they will be stabbing him in the back as soon as they can. But it is worth mentioning considering not even Ronald Reagan could pry a kind word out of the democrats.

There will be people making a fortune writing books about what we all here on FreeRepublic have witnessed in this past year. Tomorrow night CNN is broadcasting a "Special Report" on George W. Bush at 10:30 PM est. The ad said they will look into the extrordinary rise to leadership George W. Bush has come to and the incredible hurdles he has had to overcome in the first 8 months of his presidency.

This man has restored honor and dignity to the White House and he has united this country like we have never seen before. God has blessed America, and our President is the first to thank him for his blessings.

God Bless America

110 posted on 10/19/2001 9:57:25 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
Thank you for your wonderful post #110. Sincerely, summer :)
111 posted on 10/19/2001 9:58:53 PM PDT by summer
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To: JohnHuang2; summer
Several said the nation was fortunate to have Mr. Bush in power, and they questioned whether Mr. Gore would have surrounded himself with as experienced a foreign policy team as Mr. Bush did. Citing Mr. Gore's sometimes rambling speech in Des Moines on Sept. 29 in which he praised Mr. Bush, some Democrats also questioned whether the former vice president would have been as nimble at communicating to the public.

Hehehe, how sweet it is! Yes, indeed. Thanks for the flag, John. And thanks for posting this, summer.

112 posted on 10/19/2001 9:59:43 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: lepton
So it was Gore's fault that the responses were so astoundingly stupid?

Ah-ha! You have uncovered the secret! You see the dims were scared that gore might actually win (they know how stupid he really is) so they strong armed the USSC to "select" President Bush! And you know who's next in line don't you?
*cue blood curdling scream* HILLARY!

The only problem is the base is all fired up to "re-elect" gore, so when the party wants hilly that might just be a problem.
Those dims really should think things through. :-)

113 posted on 10/19/2001 10:01:03 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: summer
The article was beautiful until I had to read Rahm Emmanuel's two cents! Damn, doesn't that man have something better to do?? I guess not! Anyways, "Democrats are more in line with Israel???" Can I puke now or later?? PLEASE! Give me a break! Supporting and sucking up to Steven Speilberg does not make you a BIG SUPPORTER OF ISRAEL. As a matter of fact, it makes you a big supporter of Yaser Arafat. And, add Babs to that as well! Give me a break and Give them a CLUE! Hello? Can I get an AMEN in the house?
114 posted on 10/19/2001 10:01:35 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: summer
Everyone knows it. Can you prove me wrong?

Touchy, touchy. Tease! :)

115 posted on 10/19/2001 10:01:58 PM PDT by lepton
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To: lepton
No, no! Not touchy at all on this one! It's just a fact that I've read about a zillion times down here! That's all! LOL... :)
116 posted on 10/19/2001 10:03:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: MoJo2001
Amen.
117 posted on 10/19/2001 10:03:58 PM PDT by summer
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To: MoJo2001
Amen MoJo! :-)
118 posted on 10/19/2001 10:04:12 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Oh, Victoria, how nice of you to stop by! :)
119 posted on 10/19/2001 10:04:38 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
No, no! Not touchy at all on this one! It's just a fact that I've read about a zillion times down here! That's all! LOL... :)

:)

I was just hoping you had some data so I could see how it's going. I haven't seen anything on that race in months.

120 posted on 10/19/2001 10:05:01 PM PDT by lepton
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