Posted on 10/27/2001 9:33:56 AM PDT by freedomnews
"BEND OVER AND SPREAD 'EM!" - If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to object.
I agree with you 100% and support the War on Terrorism.
This bill hasn't taken away any rights of American citizens. Only the reactionary absolutists and anarchists find this bill troubling, because they are anti-government.
America is at WAR! Those who don't want to make any sacrifices in order to help assure victory in the fight against terrorism are anti-American in my book. They should be deported immediately, or jailed as subversives. Their rhetoric only offers aid and comfort to the enemy.
Bush’s Anti-Terrorism Bill = Democrat Dejour In 2004.
Ok..what is missing here? Do you see any wording that says this will apply only to 'terrorists'?
SEC. 213. AUTHORITY FOR DELAYING NOTICE OF THE EXECUTION OF A WARRANT.
Section 3103a of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) by inserting `(a) IN GENERAL- ´ before `In addition´; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
`(b) DELAY- With respect to the issuance of any warrant or court order under this section, or any other rule of law, to search for and seize any property or material that constitutes evidence of a criminal offense in violation of the laws of the United States, any notice required, or that may be required, to be given may be delayed if--
`(1) the court finds reasonable cause to believe that providing immediate notification of the execution of the warrant may have an adverse result (as defined in section 2705);
`(2) the warrant prohibits the seizure of any tangible property, any wire or electronic communication (as defined in section 2510), or, except as expressly provided in chapter 121, any stored wire or electronic information, except where the court finds reasonable necessity for the seizure; and
`(3) the warrant provides for the giving of such notice within a reasonable period of its execution, which period may thereafter be extended by the court for good cause shown.´.
OTOH, it authorizes the use of the U.S. Military within our borders. I am not pleased with that.
It authorizies the seizure of any property on the say-so of the President alone - without due process of law. The president will delegate that authority to some bureau, of course. That's not good either. (We have seen how that has worked out in the "drug war".)
I would also like to point out that just reading the text of this bill doesn't tell you much. You have to go to the code sections it amends and mark them up to understand what adding or deleting a paragraph or word actually does.
From the comments so far, I really doubt that anyone on this thread has done that.
(a) AUTHORITY TO SHARE GRAND JURY INFORMATION-
(1) IN GENERAL- Rule 6(e)(3)(C) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure is amended to read as follows: `(C)(i) Disclosure otherwise prohibited by this rule of matters occurring before the grand jury may also be made--
`(I) when so directed by a court preliminarily to or in connection with a judicial proceeding;
`(II) when permitted by a court at the request of the defendant, upon a showing that grounds may exist for a motion to dismiss the indictment because of matters occurring before the grand jury;
`(III) when the disclosure is made by an attorney for the government to another Federal grand jury;
`(IV) when permitted by a court at the request of an attorney for the government, upon a showing that such matters may disclose a violation of state criminal law, to an appropriate official of a state or subdivision of a state for the purpose of enforcing such law; or
`(V) when the matters involve foreign intelligence or counterintelligence (as defined in section 3 of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401a)), or foreign intelligence information (as defined in clause (iv) of this subparagraph), to any Federal law enforcement, intelligence, protective, immigration, national defense, or national security official in order to assist the official receiving that information in the performance of his official duties.
`(ii) If the court orders disclosure of matters occurring before the grand jury, the disclosure shall be made in such manner, at such time, and under such conditions as the court may direct.
`(iii) Any Federal official to whom information is disclosed pursuant to clause (i)(V) of this subparagraph may use that information only as necessary in the conduct of that person´s official duties subject to any limitations on the unauthorized disclosure of such information. Within a reasonable time after such disclosure, an attorney for the government shall file under seal a notice with the court stating the fact that such information was disclosed and the departments, agencies, or entities to which the disclosure was made.
`(iv) In clause (i)(V) of this subparagraph, the term `foreign intelligence information´ means--
`(I) information, whether or not concerning a United States person, that relates to the ability of the United States to protect against--
`(aa) actual or potential attack or other grave hostile acts of-a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
`(bb) sabotage or international terrorism by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; or `(cc) clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by an agent of foreign power; or
`(II) information, whether or not concerning a United States person, with respect to a foreign power or foreign territory that relates to--
`(aa) the national defense or the security of the United States; or
`(bb) the conduct of the foreign affairs of the United States.´
So those that don't want to sacrifice our freedoms for security should be jailed, eh? Why don't you go dig-up Ben Franklin and put his bones in jail then. You Sir, are undeserving of Freedom or security.
(a) APPLICATIONS AND ORDERS- Section 402 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1842) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)(1), by striking `for any investigation to gather foreign intelligence information or information concerning international terrorism´ and inserting `for any investigation to obtain foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution´;
(2) by amending subsection (c)(2) to read as follows:
`(2) a certification by the applicant that the information likely to be obtained is foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or is relevant to an ongoing investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution.´;
(3) by striking subsection (c)(3); and
(4) by amending subsection (d)(2)(A) to read as follows:
`(A) shall specify--
`(i) the identity, if known, of the person who is the subject of the investigation;
`(ii) the identity, if known, of the person to whom is leased or in whose name is listed the telephone line or other facility to which the pen register or trap and trace device is to be attached or applied;
`(iii) the attributes of the communications to which the order applies, such as the number or other identifier, and, if known, the location of the telephone line or other facility to which the pen register or trap and trace device is to be attached or applied and, in the case of a trap and trace device, the geographic limits of the trap and trace order.´.
(b) AUTHORIZATION DURING EMERGENCIES- Section 403 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1843) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a), by striking `foreign intelligence information or information concerning international terrorism´ and inserting `foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or information to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution´; and
(2) in subsection (b)(1), by striking `foreign intelligence information or information concerning international terrorism´ and inserting `foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or information to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution´
Without resorting to name calling, please explain to me where your "Inaliable Rights" have been subverted or taken away?. I realize that law enforcement allways seems to find a way to abuse the law as it is written, but without assuming they will, I don't see where any of my freedoms have been taken away.
I beg to differ. This bill is a violation of our Constitution, specifically the 4th amendment. Are you suggesting that we trash the Constitution because we are at war?
Only the reactionary absolutists and anarchists find this bill troubling, because they are anti-government.
I find it interesting that person using the screen name Reagan Man would say such a thing. Reagan was by far the most limited-government president in my lifetime. I believe in limited government and I believe our government should adhere to our Constitution. I am neither a reactionary absolutist nor an anarchist. I'm not anti-government but I do believe I still have the right to speak out about something with which I disagree.
BTW, before you go there, I support the war on terrorism, I was patriotic before it was de rigueure to be so and I don't appreciate your implying that unless we swallow everything the government does, hook, line and sinker, we are traitors.
I'd like to inform you that my right to life is of greater value to both me and my country, than your right to any level of privacy.
It is time for the government to get about the business of protecting me, and if you get hurt in the process, I could care less - actually it could be even worse than that; I could care about harm to you as much as you care about harm to me.
If you don't want to participate in this country, I encourage you to hat up. Have no idea where you might go because they have countries everywhere - maybe you could join a tribe in the Federal Tribal Territory in Pakistan, or maybe down with a bunch of headhunters along the Amazon - it just won't be here. We have a war to win, and people to protect, and it's long overdue that the government get on with it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.