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H.R.3162 PATRIOT ACT{ YOUR NEW- POLICESTATE- LOOK FOR YOUR SELF}
thomas ^ | GOVERNMENT

Posted on 10/27/2001 9:33:56 AM PDT by freedomnews

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To: Reagan Man
Those who don't want to make any sacrifices in order to help assure victory in the fight against terrorism are anti-American in my book. They should be deported immediately, or jailed as subversives.

I can see why you would support such trash legislation. It is exactly because of people like you that I oppose this crap. I may be anti-government by your definition, but you sir, are the true ANTI-AMERICAN.

42 posted on 10/27/2001 11:32:02 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: DonPaulJones
What the heck are you talking about?
44 posted on 10/27/2001 11:33:28 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: LiberteeBell
I agree that some of the provisions in this bill seem a little too far reaching, but the ones I am concerned about the most will sunset Dec. 31st, 2005. I think it would be far better to make sure these new law enforcement tools don't get abused before throwing in the towel. I realize that after 8 years of Janet Reno abusing almost everything she and the rest of X42's administration touched, It's hard to trust anyone in the Government. But I will wait and see before I condemn George W. Bush and John Ashcroft, I think they have our safety in mind and not stripping away any of the freedoms we now enjoy.
45 posted on 10/27/2001 11:34:24 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Reagan Man
"They should be deported immediately, or jailed as subversives. Their rhetoric only offers aid and comfort to the enemy."

Such tough talk from a Cyber Rambo. Why don't you come get me?

46 posted on 10/27/2001 11:34:26 AM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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To: DonPaulJones
Do you realize the purpose of this forum?
47 posted on 10/27/2001 11:35:18 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: amundsen
My God but the cockroaches come scurrying out enmasse.
48 posted on 10/27/2001 11:36:14 AM PDT by DonPaulJones
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To: muawiyah
"It is time for the government to get about the business of protecting me..." Sad...
49 posted on 10/27/2001 11:38:19 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: DonPaulJones
"you'd do better with your fellow scum at democraticunderground.com..."

I was banned from that forum after one factual post regarding the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution. I'm sure the folks over there would take kindly to you though, as you seem to have much in common.

52 posted on 10/27/2001 11:39:50 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: muawiyah
You are making a claim that your right to privacy exceeds my right to life.

You’re damn right I am, thanks for putting it so simply. I has nothing to do with the fate of your coworker, and reading my mail won’t make the boggie man go away. My Conditional rights will always trump your need for safety, anything otherwise would be un-American.

I could care about harm to you as much as you care about harm to me.

Sounds like terrorism to me, shall I report you to the authorities?

If you don't want to participate in this country

You and your ilk make me sick it is you who is anti-American. Be gone!

Bush’s Anti-Terrorism Bill = Democrat Dejour In 2004.

54 posted on 10/27/2001 11:47:15 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: MJY1288
If you don't have anything to hide you wont be effected by this bill. Not to mention most of the provisions sunset in 4 years.

A. Whether or NOT I have anything to hide is irrelevant. It is NOT FedGov's place to make restrictions on ME. The Constitution restricts FEDGOV, NOT the CITIZENRY. So love FedGov all you want but RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION.

B. And in WWII, they introduced withholding as a TEMPORARY MEASURE. Guess what, FedGov-lover? It's STILL HERE. Any OTHER questions your small brain needs explained????

David Wright

PS: You might be able to infer from my nickname that I am a (now retired) Marine, so questioning my patriotism for me questioning this law won't work.

55 posted on 10/27/2001 11:56:33 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: MJY1288
You really think this is ever going to go away?
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Sec. 5331. Reports relating to coins and currency received in nonfinancial trade or business

`(a) COIN AND CURRENCY RECEIPTS OF MORE THAN $10,000- Any person--

`(1) who is engaged in a trade or business; and

`(2) who, in the course of such trade or business, receives more than $10,000 in coins or currency in 1 transaction (or 2 or more related transactions),

shall file a report described in subsection (b) with respect to such transaction (or related transactions) with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at such time and in such manner as the Secretary may, by regulation, prescribe.

`(b) FORM AND MANNER OF REPORTS- A report is described in this subsection if such report--

`(1) is in such form as the Secretary may prescribe;

`(2) contains--

`(A) the name and address, and such other identification information as the Secretary may require, of the person from whom the coins or currency was received;

`(B) the amount of coins or currency received;

`(C) the date and nature of the transaction; and

`(D) such other information, including the identification of the person filing the report, as the Secretary may prescribe.

`(c) EXCEPTIONS-

`(1) AMOUNTS RECEIVED BY FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS- Subsection (a) shall not apply to amounts received in a transaction reported under section 5313 and regulations prescribed under such section.

`(2) TRANSACTIONS OCCURRING OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES- Except to the extent provided in regulations prescribed by the Secretary, subsection (a) shall not apply to any transaction if the entire transaction occurs outside the United States.

`(d) CURRENCY INCLUDES FOREIGN CURRENCY AND CERTAIN MONETARY INSTRUMENTS-

`(1) IN GENERAL- For purposes of this section, the term `currency' includes--

`(A) foreign currency; and

`(B) to the extent provided in regulations prescribed by the Secretary, any monetary instrument (whether or not in bearer form) with a face amount of not more than $10,000.

`(2) SCOPE OF APPLICATION- Paragraph (1)(B) shall not apply to any check drawn on the account of the writer in a financial institution referred to in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), (E), (F), (G), (J), (K), (R), or (S) of section 5312(a)(2).'.

(b) PROHIBITION ON STRUCTURING TRANSACTIONS-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 5324 of title 31, United States Code, is amended--

(A) by redesignating subsections (b) and (c) as subsections (c) and (d), respectively; and

(B) by inserting after subsection (a) the following new subsection:

`(b) DOMESTIC COIN AND CURRENCY TRANSACTIONS INVOLVING NONFINANCIAL TRADES OR BUSINESSES- No person shall, for the purpose of evading the report requirements of section 5333 or any regulation prescribed under such section--

`(1) cause or attempt to cause a nonfinancial trade or business to fail to file a report required under section 5333 or any regulation prescribed under such section;

`(2) cause or attempt to cause a nonfinancial trade or business to file a report required under section 5333 or any regulation prescribed under such section that contains a material omission or misstatement of fact; or

`(3) structure or assist in structuring, or attempt to structure or assist in structuring, any transaction with 1 or more nonfinancial trades or businesses.'.

(2) TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMENDMENTS-

(A) The heading for subsection (a) of section 5324 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by inserting `INVOLVING FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS' after `TRANSACTIONS'.

(B) Section 5317(c) of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking `5324(b)' and inserting `5324(c)'.

(c) DEFINITION OF NONFINANCIAL TRADE OR BUSINESS-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 5312(a) of title 31, United States Code, is amended--

(A) by redesignating paragraphs (4) and (5) as paragraphs (5) and (6), respectively; and

(B) by inserting after paragraph (3) the following new paragraph:

`(4) NONFINANCIAL TRADE OR BUSINESS- The term `nonfinancial trade or business' means any trade or business other than a financial institution that is subject to the reporting requirements of section 5313 and regulations prescribed under such section.'.

(2) TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMENDMENTS-

(A) Section 5312(a)(3)(C) of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking `section 5316,' and inserting `sections 5333 and 5316,'.

(B) Subsections (a) through (f) of section 5318 of title 31, United States Code, and sections 5321, 5326, and 5328 of such title are each amended--

(i) by inserting `or nonfinancial trade or business' after `financial institution' each place such term appears; and

(ii) by inserting `or nonfinancial trades or businesses' after `financial institutions' each place such term appears.

(c) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of sections for chapter 53 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 5332 (as added by section 112 of this title) the following new item:

`5331. Reports relating to coins and currency received in nonfinancial trade or business.'.

(f) REGULATIONS- Regulations which the Secretary determines are necessary to implement this section shall be published in final form before the end of the 6-month period beginning on the date of enactment of this Act.

56 posted on 10/27/2001 11:56:34 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Godebert
"Something fishy going on here....."

Get used to it, proliferation of the police state is every where.....arrived FR even before W's desk.

Free Republic used to be much more free and stimulating before the dreaded moderator = (fill in the blank) appeared.

57 posted on 10/27/2001 12:01:10 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500
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To: TightSqueeze
Tight, you sound like a good monday morning quaterback. So tell us, how would you fight terrorism in this country if you were incharge? Well, we're waiting, people are dieing.
58 posted on 10/27/2001 12:05:54 PM PDT by kempo
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To: dcwusmc
"B. And in WWII, they introduced withholding as a TEMPORARY MEASURE. Guess what, FedGov-lover? It's STILL HERE. Any OTHER questions your small brain needs explained????

Wow! that was so big of you, make assumptions and name call all in one sentence.

59 posted on 10/27/2001 12:06:37 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
Of course. Your post SHOWS the size of your mind. Sad to be so transparent, eh? Wish it could be otherwise. Likewise, your love of FedGov shows thru rather clearly. Equally unfortunate, wouldn't you say?
60 posted on 10/27/2001 12:12:45 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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