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Much of the material on the Hussein's long obsession with Nebuchadnezzar comes from religious sources, mostly Christian and some Jewish. I've tried as much as possible here to go for secular sources, to avoid some of the eshatological slant.

That being said, I certainly welcome more sources, secular or religious, and information from any corner. In particular, I'm looking for images of medals and billboards from Hussein's Babylon Festivals of the late 1980s, which show Saddam's profile superimposed over Nebuchadnezzar's, or the two of them shaking hands over the centuries of Mesopotamian Civilization. I've seen them in books, but couldn't find them on-line.

I believe that this Conqueror Fetish of the most brutal tyrant of our time as been sadly ignored by the mainstream press, and I believe, by many in our government.

It doesn't matter what you or I might believe about reincarnation, it matters what Saddam Hussein believes, because he is attempting to re-ignite the "Mother of all Battles."

And his undeniable goal is to destroy America, Israel, and all of Western Civilization.


1 posted on 10/31/2001 2:50:20 PM PST by Sabertooth
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37 posted on 10/31/2001 7:35:29 PM PST by patent
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No, he is just a blowhard, as well as a murderous thug.
41 posted on 10/31/2001 8:25:31 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Sabertooth; jmurphy4413; maica; FITZ; Manny Festo; Lent; patent; rebdov; AGAviator; boris...
Really a first rate personality study, thanks for your efforts, I am really getting an education.

I wonder how many of our boys in foggy bottom and up the river know any of these factors which may be driving history?

42 posted on 10/31/2001 8:32:53 PM PST by Travis McGee
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Good Post. It jogged my memory of an article I cut out for a history project during college - which I just found. The April 19, 1989 edition of the Minneapolis Star Tribune had an article titled "Babylon restoration helps Hussein build his case." Basically the article laid out two years prior to the Gulf War that this guy viewed himself as the 2nd coming of Nebuchadnezzar and was rebuilding the ancient sites throughout the country.

The interesting paragraph in the article both in light of history and the present is this:

"But Hussein's glorification of ancient Babylon is disturbing to his neighbors, diplomats say. For the king whose palace he is rebuilding ruled an empire from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean, embracing what now are Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, Israel and parts of Saudia Arabia."

Boy, you can't swing a dead cat in the Middle East without hitting some nutcase claiming to be some past or present biblical character.

43 posted on 10/31/2001 8:36:31 PM PST by Dan C
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No! He's not, because there is no such thing as reincarnation. Also, the Bible is quite clear - "it is appointed ONCE for a man to die". If you can only die once, then you certainly cannot live again.

You only get ONE opportunity to choose Jesus - that's why you can only die one time!!

However, Saddam does believe he is the King of Babylon!

45 posted on 10/31/2001 9:38:17 PM PST by Sueann
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Daniel 3:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

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One important thing about statues [Daniel 2:31] is you can't have the head and shoulders in one place, [say Babylon] and it's legs and feet in another. [say Rome/Europe] - Jeremiah Jr

Easton's Dictionary

Dura. the circle, the plain near Babylon in which Nebuchadnezzar set up a golden image, mentioned in Dan. 3:1. The place still retains its ancient name. On one of its many mounds the pedestal of what must have been a colossal statue has been found. It has been supposed to be that of the golden image.

Al Daura is located just south of Baghdad. Same place?

Google search Daura + nuclear reactor + Israel

Google search Daura + Baghdad + gulf war

 


Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

I wonder who will replace Saddam?

49 posted on 11/01/2001 5:56:39 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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What a nut case he is! BTTT!!!!
58 posted on 11/17/2001 9:44:22 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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Habbakuk 1:5-7"[5] Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

[6] For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.

[7] They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

Chaldea is southern Iraq.

There is evidence in the Bible that Nebuchadnezzar will return in a "ressurected" body, to use scriptural terminology. Saddam is not Nebuchadnezzar, but he is preparing the way for Nebuchadnezzar's return as the antchrist.

Revelation 17:10,11"[10] And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. [11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

The beast was. Now he is not(dead). But he is coming. He is the eighth king(future) and is of the seven kings(past) with the name of blasphemy.

Saddam does not prosper in his reign, so he is not Nebuchadnezzar. He is the leader who will stumble, fall and not be found IMO.

Daniel 11"[19] Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found."

Saddam was quoted on CNN in 1990 or '91 saying that if he was defeated "you won't even get one piece of my finger" to the U.S. So eventually Saddam will be defeated, though it will be an awful battle where many shall fall, according to Daniel.

[20]"Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle."

The interim ruler raises taxes and dies after a short time. [21]"And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries." Then comes the vile person, who is Nebuchadnezzar in his resurrected body.

Daniel 4"[36] At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellers and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me." "[37]Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase."

Nebuchadnezzar recognized the God of heaven(and God revealed himself to Neb on several occasions). However, there is no record of repentance on behalf of Nebuchadnezzar though God dealt with him. Had Nebuchadnezzar repented he would have returned the vessels to the temple that he had stolen and would have allowed the Jews to worship at the temple. So Nebuchadnezzar died wickedly. And he shall return wickedly.

I realize that there are many opposing views on Bible prophecy, but I think you hit on something very interesting here. I hope you don't mind me sharing a bit of what I've been studying for about the last seven years. :)

Freeregards

60 posted on 08/05/2002 7:08:02 AM PDT by supercalifragilistic
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