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Palestinian Terrorists Open Fire on Israeli Bus in Jerusalem
BBC

Posted on 11/04/2001 5:35:53 AM PST by IcommGen

A Palestinian gunman has opened fire on an Israeli bus while it was travelling in Jerusalem on Sunday, wounding seven people, police and witnesses said.

"We saw a Palestinian terrorist shoot at us from the outside. He didn't stop shooting," a woman passenger on the bus told Israel radio.

The bus was travelling in Jerusalem's French Hill neighbourhood.

Police sources quoted by the French news agency AFP said the gunman was shot dead by police.


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To: Uprise
Yeah. How dare the Jews be more competent at self defense than the Pals are at murder.
61 posted on 11/04/2001 11:14:07 AM PST by JAWs
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To: BenF
So that's it? Oil? If it were not for the oil, then the arabs would control Israel and the Israelis would be without a place of their own?
62 posted on 11/04/2001 11:28:27 AM PST by slimer
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To: IcommGen
Agreed. When Israel seals them off, they kill each other for something to do. The only home land these people should be given is six feet under ground.
63 posted on 11/04/2001 11:32:39 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Uprise
You are the enemy. You support the ideology/methodology of terrorists/ethnic cleansers. If you are serious, and on American soil, you're a traitor/spy. You are unAmerican. If you're 'just kidding', you should check into rehab.
64 posted on 11/04/2001 12:17:35 PM PST by rocknotsand
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The radio report of this story mentioned that the genocidal maniac (terrorist) with the M16 (issued in '99 to the 'PLO Police') was stopped/killed by a CCW CIVILIAN.

(...only aspect of this story that is pleasing in a story that is otherwise a total tragedy/atrocity.)

65 posted on 11/04/2001 12:23:15 PM PST by rocknotsand
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To: BenF
We actually hold Israel back. If the US was out of the picture, Israel would have completely eliminated every threat against them a long time ago. They would also have more land than they could settle in 100 years. So who's defending who?
66 posted on 11/04/2001 12:37:41 PM PST by Gumption
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To: cidrasm
I heard that the armed civilian killed him, the police put a few certainty shots in him.
67 posted on 11/04/2001 1:16:53 PM PST by mxbluto
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To: mxbluto
I heard that the armed civilian killed him, the police put a few certainty shots in him.

Either way, it proves the point of having an armed citizenry. :)

68 posted on 11/04/2001 1:29:37 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: IcommGen
Islam was hijacked by these fundamentalist scumbags a long time ago. They are now the majority of people who practice Islam in the middle east. Peaceful Islam in the middle east is a rarity.

These terrorists need to be killed.

69 posted on 11/04/2001 3:51:10 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot
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To: IcommGen
Once again, for the record. "French Hill" is not in Jerusalem. It is built on land belonging to the Palestinian town of Lifta, stolen in 1967. As such, it is an illegal settlement built in violation of international law, and its criminal inhabitants are legitimate military targets.
70 posted on 11/04/2001 4:21:22 PM PST by John Locke
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To: slimer
So that's it? Oil? If it were not for the oil, then the arabs would control Israel and the Israelis would be without a place of their own?

Not quite. If it were not for the oil, the Israelis would have launched nuclear attacks on the Arabs in 1973 after the Arab surprise attack in the Yom Kippur War. Who knows what would have happened after that. The US didn't want that to happen. That's the reason we support Israel - to prevent them from nuking the oil fields.

71 posted on 11/04/2001 4:34:36 PM PST by BenF
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To: Gumption
We actually hold Israel back.

I agree with you. One of the benefits of being the only ones who sell Israel arms is that we can exert an enormous amount of influence on their decisions to defend themselves. Of course, when we use that influence it doesn't exactly make us look like the guys in the white hats....but then, maybe we aren't.

72 posted on 11/04/2001 4:37:10 PM PST by BenF
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To: John Locke
"French Hill" is not in Jerusalem. It is built on land belonging to the Palestinian town of Lifta, stolen in 1967.

Since there was no "Palestine" in 1967, who was it stolen from? The French? No, wait, it must have been the French who stole it.

Land for Peace: The French Solution
by Steven Plaut

On a recent trip to Israel, French prime minister Lionel Jospin urged Israel to make concessions for peace. More interesting yet, in documents relating to his visit, Jerusalem was called the "capital of the Palestinian Authority." And what does he consider the capital of Israel? Tel Aviv, of course.1 This trip followed by a few years one made by President Jacques Chirac, who used the occasion of his visit in 1996 to announce that "Syria has a moral right to demand return of the Golan Heights."2

These French politicians may be on to something important. Never one to back down from a challenge, I have prepared a set of proposals for consideration by the French people, so they too can achieve a full, lasting, and just peace with their historic opponents.

First, we all agree that territory must not be annexed by force. Therefore, we can also agree that Germany has a moral right to demand the return of Alsace-Lorraine, for the French aggression in 1945 and its consequent occupation must not be rewarded. "A full withdrawal for full peace" should operate here. Further, France must agree to the return and rehabilitation of all ethnic Germans expelled from Alsace-Lorraine after World Wars I and II, as well as all those they define as their descendents.

But this, of course, is just the first step toward a solution, as no aggression can be rewarded—and France has much other stolen territory to return. It took Corsica from Genoa, Nice and Savoy from Piedmont; as the successor state, Italy must get back all these lands. By similar token, territories grabbed from the Habsburgs go back to Austria, including Franche-Comté, Artois, and historic Burgundy. The Roussillon area (along the Pyrenées) must be returned to Spain, its rightful owner. And Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine, and Gascony must be returned to their rightful owners, the British royal family.

Not even this not enough for the sake of peace. Brittany and Languedoc must be granted autonomy at once, recognizing the Breton and Occitan Liberation organizations as their legal rulers. This leaves the French government in control over the Île de France (the area around Paris).

That, however, still does not solve the problem of the Holy City of Paris, sacred to artists, gourmets, and adulterers. The Corsicans obviously have a historic claim to the Tomb of the Emperor Napoleon, their famed son, as well as the Invalides complex and beyond. For the sake of peace, is it not too much to ask that Paris be the capital for two peoples? The French authorities must agree to prevent French Parisians from even entering the sacred tomb area, lest this upset the Corsicans.

The Saint Chapelle and the Church of Notre Dame of course will be internationalized, under joint Vatican-art historical auspices. Indeed, the French should consider it a compliment of the highest order that so many people see Paris as an international city.

The French have nothing to complain of. They will enjoy the benefits of peace and retain control of the Champs Elysées.

Actually, come to think of it, even the Champs Elysées may be too much. Recalling the French position that Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel, perhaps the true French capital is not Paris at all, but Vichy.

Steven Plaut teaches at the University of Haifa.
1 The Jerusalem Post, Feb. 24, 2000.
2 The Jerusalem Post, Oct. 23, 1996
74 posted on 11/04/2001 5:01:17 PM PST by Alouette
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To: anapikoros
Self defence is not murder - deliberate targetting of a bus of school kids is.

You are right. The massacres that the Jews have perpetrated against the Arabs in Palestine are numerous and documented, but you have to dig around further than the Wall Street Journal, NYT, or Washington Post. And speaking of innocent ones being victimized in war what are your thoughts of the over 1 million Iraqi children that have died in the last ten years of allied sanctions against that country? Remember how Germany was treated after WW1. The sanctions imposed upon them, and how that eventually lead to WW2.

75 posted on 11/04/2001 5:14:37 PM PST by Uprise
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To: Uprise
"the gunman was shot dead by police"

I really love a story with a HAPPY ending!

76 posted on 11/04/2001 5:15:34 PM PST by HadEnough
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To: Uprise
So...when are you gonna get in the action, traitor. My neighborhood is ready and waiting.
77 posted on 11/04/2001 5:17:53 PM PST by HadEnough
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To: carcajou
Tell me, is killing someone who attacks you the same as deliberately killing women and children?

Excuse me? I seem to remember watching a Palestinian child get shot to death in his father's arms on international television. What about last week's Palestinian Christian murdered by Isreali snipers? He wasn't yet a teen, nor was he throwing rocks. Is it violence when a group of people with superior political connections and wealth, invade a country, provoke a war, terrorize the inhabitants forcing them into refugee camps, never paying any compensation, what kind of child abuse it that?

78 posted on 11/04/2001 5:22:29 PM PST by Uprise
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To: Dengar01
You seem like an anti-Semetic. That is disgusting and I consider anti-Semetics no better than Adolf Hitler. Yes, there is violence on both sides. But if people were threatening you and your family would you shoot back? Or call the ACLU? Get a grip.

In Israel the Jews accuse each other of being anti-Semites. Since I am a proud gentile, straight, unreconstructed nationalist of the whitest kind I won't be running to the ACLU anytime soon. LOL.

79 posted on 11/04/2001 5:28:46 PM PST by Uprise
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To: Uprise
Stop whining you traitorous sympathizer, just get your AK-47 locked and loaded and put your action where your wimpy mouth is.
80 posted on 11/04/2001 5:29:44 PM PST by HadEnough
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