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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#3)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 11/5/01 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/05/2001 6:36:52 PM PST by B4Ranch

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To: No More Gore Anymore; LSJohn
Good letter, to hell with them. You can't teach such people anything, you can just hit them in the head like they're a worthless, stubborn mule.

I had an uncle break a 2x4 over a mule's head one time. My grandfather walked up just in time to see the mule knocked to his knees. Granddad said to my uncle, "God son, what are you doing?" My uncle replied, "I'm going to kill this mule if it doesn't work right." The mule was soon a model worker, set the standard for mules in the area. It's a lesson which should be learned by lesser forms of life, like mindless bureaucrats. But unfortunately, such actions are now considered impolite. So, I guess we'll just e-mail them and send lawyers. Life just ain't much fun anymore.

121 posted on 11/06/2001 10:54:39 AM PST by Judge Parker
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To: B4Ranch
Folks, this could be important information. I found this doing a google search for a VFW post in Solana Beach. Solana Beach VFW Post is #5431. The Service Officer for the California Dept. of Veteran's Outreach is a member of Solana Beach's VFW Post! He is also an attorney! Please read the following, take note of phone numbers at the end, and see if we can find out what this guy is doing to help. If he's not helping, why isn't he??

VFW Post 5431

Arthur Rodrigues, LL.B., J.D. is the Department of California Outreach Service Officer. What is great for us is that he lives right here is San Diego County. Arthur is a member of VFW Post 5431 in Solana Beach. He can assist you with free representation for Veterans, their Dependents and Survivors to obtain VA Entitlements and Benefits. These include:

Service Connected Disability
Appeal Claims to the VA
Claims Pension Benefits
VA Home Loans
Medical Treatment
Nursing Home Care
Employment
Educational Benefits
Social Security Counseling
Burial Benefits
Readjustment Counseling
Non-Service Connected Treatment

As you can see, Arthur can assist you with a wide variety of issues. Contact him at VFW Post 5431, 411 N. Hwy 101, Solana Beach, CA 92075-1131. The telephone number is 858.350.1422 or 858.259.7348. He has office hours of 9:30 am to 2 p.m. Mondays through Fridays.

122 posted on 11/06/2001 11:44:57 AM PST by lonevoice
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Source: North Country Times link
Date: 11/1/00
Where are these people now?

Veterans honor nation's military, past and present


LEIGH ANN DEWEY
Staff Writer

SOLANA BEACH ---- In a ceremony that began with the presentation of colors by a local Boy Scouts troop and ended with the release of doves symbolizing peace, about 130 people gathered Saturday in La Colonia Park to honor U.S. veterans.

Hosted by the city and Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 5431, the event was one of many Veterans Day services throughout the country to acknowledge men and women, past and present, who have served the nation's military forces. Veterans representing all branches of the military attended the service, set around the Solana Beach Veterans Memorial.

The National Anthem and a medley of military music was performed by the Santa Fe Christian School band, and speakers included U.S. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, Solana Beach Mayor Joe Kellejian and VFW Post Commander Randy Treadway.

"Today we honor and salute all American veterans who have put their lives on the line for our freedom," said Treadway. "American veterans represent all races and ethnic groups. They are men and women ... some are famous, but most are just ordinary citizens who answered the call to duty when it came and left the comfort of their homes and families to fight for our country. ... We appreciate your sacrifices."

A former Navy fighter pilot and "Top Gun" instructor, Cunningham received numerous decorations during his 20-year military career. Re-elected Tuesday to the 51st Congressional District, Cunningham said he would continue his fight in Washington to strengthen eroding health care benefits for disabled veterans and their families.

"We're going to change that in a bipartisan way to make sure they are restored," he said. "Whether it's Al Gore or Governor Bush (as the next president), I hope you can get the same benefits that members of Congress do."

Cunningham motioned to a youth soccer game in the field behind him. "The kids' noise doesn't bother me," he said. "That's why we fought."

But he said that Veterans Day has been downplayed in recent years.

"It's sad today that it's mostly vets who show up. ... We need to let our children know about the sacrifices made and what they mean," he said.

"I am very disturbed about the apathy today toward American patriotism," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Charles Moss, who was shot down over Germany during World War II and spent 13 months as a prisoner of war. "When Pearl Harbor started on Sunday, I went to flight school on Monday. But it's disturbing now to see the lack of interest in the future of America."

The North Country Times is the local fishwrap for Solana Beach. Send email to the editor at: editor@nctimes.com

123 posted on 11/06/2001 12:13:36 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: krunkygirl
LOL! I know how you feel! LMAO.....hahahahaha
124 posted on 11/06/2001 12:44:56 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: lonevoice
great info----will do!
125 posted on 11/06/2001 1:17:36 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Cultural Jihad
come on Jihad, I bet you would be great at coming up with some good solutions about how to help this guy out. We all know how you feel about the problem of homelessness, and there is probably little question that most of us would agree with you in most instances, however, this is just not one of those times. This time is different because this time we might be able to work out some sort of solution. Maybe. And having your help would be great!
126 posted on 11/06/2001 1:17:45 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: lonevoice
more great info---will do, too!
127 posted on 11/06/2001 1:18:35 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: B4Ranch
I am recalling all over again how Lucy told me that we had Solano Beach all wrong. She said that they support the military in Solano Beach and are proud to do so. She was a little less anxious about my idea of hiring Mr. Northcut to take care of the flag and the grounds surrounding it. Well, I guess it's time to "sh%% or get off the pot" for them. I am sure none of them took the time to know anything about Mr. Northcut's background until we provoked them. This is a real test, imo. The town of Solano Beach has the opportunity here to stand out and set an example. I sure hope they come through!
128 posted on 11/06/2001 1:26:53 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: B4Ranch
Well if I were the judge in this case, I would not only dismiss all charges immediately, and also issue a decree authorizing and ordering this man and his dog to protect this flag from all threats, both foreign and domestic, with the full weight and authorization of the district in which I serve.

And I would issue a repremand against the little pencil pusher that caused this situation.

129 posted on 11/06/2001 1:30:00 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: lonevoice
I sent the info to Jennifer Lynch. Thanks much.
130 posted on 11/06/2001 1:31:37 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: usmcobra
You know, by that map, it would be between the Chamber of Commerce and the tourist informaion center. Perhaps the Chamber needs some E-mail????

You are too kind! lol

131 posted on 11/06/2001 1:47:08 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: backhoe
Well, H!ll Fire! That explains a lot- that's a valuable, trained dog. No wonder he's barking! I'll use your link to send the SOB's another note.

LMAO....I get the biggest darn kick out of you guys!

132 posted on 11/06/2001 1:59:48 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: lonevoice
That article explains it all.
They had Mr. Northcut arrested and TJ impounded to have a "trouble free" Veterans Day!!!!
They had no idea he was a Viet Nam Vet, And did it to remove Them from the Memorial!!!!!
I HATE BUREAUCRATS!!!!!!!
133 posted on 11/06/2001 2:23:55 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: NAMMARINE
Where is your proof?
Bring a link and show where you found this out!
135 posted on 11/06/2001 2:33:49 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: NAMMARINE
Is this guy even a real vet?

My experience with the homeless "Vietnam vets" is that they almost always can't remember which unit they were in or where it was stationed (or they were in some "top secret special forces" unit that never appears in any Order of Battle document), who their commanding officer was, claim to have been awarded very senior medals (I've bumped into one Medal of Honor and maybe five Navy Crosses--the documentation never supports their claim), they can't remember WHERE they went to boot camp, who their Drill Instructors were, what Platoon/Series/Company/Battalion they were in, what day they arrived in Viet Nam and when they left...in short, none of the details that would be seared into the brain of a real veteran.

136 posted on 11/06/2001 2:43:11 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: NAMMARINE
Sorry, but you have your "facts" fowled up. Sam Georges told me that Northcut doesn't drink. If he did Sam would not be fighting for him.
138 posted on 11/06/2001 2:45:58 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Poohbah
Sam gave me all that information, but I didn't take notes on it. In two weeks when Sam gets back from overseas just give him a call and he'll tell it to you.
140 posted on 11/06/2001 2:49:01 PM PST by B4Ranch
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