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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#4)
www.sandiegouniontribune.com. ^ | November 7, 2001 | By Dana Littlefield

Posted on 11/07/2001 3:59:48 PM PST by B4Ranch

Solana Beach 'bullying' homeless man, friends say

By Dana Littlefield
STAFF WRITER

November 7, 2001

SOLANA BEACH -- Neighbors and local business owners are rallying behind a homeless man they believe is being treated unfairly by city and county officials.

Robert Thomas Northcut, 49, who has lived on the streets of Solana Beach for more than a decade, was arrested last week on suspicion of trespassing on a city-owned traffic median where a war memorial sits.

Sam Georges, a lawyer from Solana Beach, and Chris Tatem, owner of the Do-It-Yourself Dog Wash in Solana Beach, helped get Northcut out of jail.

Now they and several other residents are working to handle his legal problems, including reuniting him with his dog, which was taken to a county animal shelter when he was arrested.

"The only thing I own is that damn dog," Northcut said Monday while lying in the grass overlooking Fletcher Cove. "He's my dog and he's faithful to me."

Even before Northcut's arrest, neighbors banded together to help him out and bring him food. They even cared for his dog, getting it neutered, vaccinated and registered with the county.

"It's not one person; it's the whole community," said Tatem.

They said that Northcut doesn't panhandle or bother their customers and that he just wants to be left alone with his dog to live outdoors. Putting him inside a building, Georges said, would be like "taking a coyote and chaining it in the garage."

Northcut's German shepherd -- named Thomas Jefferson, or T.J. for short -- remains in custody at the county animal shelter in Carlsbad for lunging and barking at city and transit employees. The dog bit a man in May, according to animal control officials, and city staff members say it threatened several maintenance workers and one department head.

Northcut admitted that his dog has bitten people, but said T.J. was just protecting his master. The dog had been abused before being rescued in Tijuana and nursed back to health by Northcut and Tatem.

"He's a very feisty animal. He's addle-brained," Northcut said. "He's a lot like me. He's all nervous like me."

Members of the county Dangerous Dog Task Force are expected to decide today whether to issue a notice declaring T.J. a public nuisance. If that happens, a hearing will follow, and the dog could be required to wear a muzzle or be fenced off from the public entirely.

Northcut said he and T.J. set up camp at the war memorial after he heard reports on a portable radio of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. For the next few days, Northcut, who said he is a Navy veteran, raised and lowered the U.S. flag on a pole near the memorial to half-staff to honor victims.

"He was taking care of the war memorial," Georges said. "It was his effort to 9/11."

He said that the city is "bullying" Northcut for crushing plants that surround the World War II memorial where Northcut and T.J. had been sleeping, and that the county should return his dog.

"He's just lost without his dog," Georges said. "If the city doesn't want him around, there are definitely more humane ways to get him away from there."

City officials said the traffic median, on Plaza Street and surrounded by cars heading to and from Fletcher Cove, is not a safe spot to hang around. A "No Trespassing" sign is posted near the flagpole, which shares the crowded median with a large fountain and the memorial.

"There really isn't a place for people to congregate," said City Manager Bob Semple. "It wasn't meant to be used for people to gather there."

Northcut has been cited several times for trespassing at other spots in the city.

Jennifer Lynch, the Vista attorney whom Georges asked to appear in court last week on Northcut's behalf, disagreed with Semple.

"To say that there's no trespassing at a war memorial is unconscionable," Lynch said.

A court hearing on Northcut's trespassing charge is scheduled for Nov. 15.

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Copyright 2001 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.


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We made the Center Section of the SAN DIEGO Union-Tribune. I haven't seen it yet but Sam told me that there is THREE pictures of RT Northcut with the article. Hurrah! Thanks to all of you we have alerted the City of Solana Beach and the rest of California that mistreating Viet Nam Vets, especially ones who have difficulty mentally are NOT THE VETS TO MESS WITH!

I just spoke to Sam Georges as he was stepping onto the plane for his international flight.

To clarify some matters. The mobile home was offered to RT Northcut about 3 years ago when the weather was very nasty. We are checking to see if something like that is available again.

The court matters that Northcut went through related to a couple of OLD trespassing violations. Back in 96 or 97. The current one the City laid on him will be having it's Court date November 15th. Jennifer and another lawyer will be there to defend him.

1 posted on 11/07/2001 3:59:50 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch; Native American Female Vet
**BUMP**
2 posted on 11/07/2001 4:12:43 PM PST by TwoStep
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the updates! BTTT!
3 posted on 11/07/2001 4:12:52 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Scuttlebutt; Snow Bunny; Mudboy Slim; krunkygirl; glock rocks; nonliberal; anniegetyourgun...
Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego

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4 posted on 11/07/2001 4:13:41 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
These people need a BLASTING of emails and phone calls. I think tomorrow or the next day there is going to be a hearing on TJ, Bob's German Shepard. We need to let them know that to take a mans dog is a crime, especially Northcuts dog! Go after the City Manager as well.

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

San Diego County Animal Control e-mail

DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us

5 posted on 11/07/2001 4:17:22 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch; 2Trievers; Keeper of the Flame; Born in a Rage; cdwright; sarcasm; TrueBeliever9...
Neighbors, may I suggest using some of these:

Communicate! Let the Sons of....

to send a link of this ( or a copy of the story ) to a lot of people, papers, talk show hosts, etc.?

6 posted on 11/07/2001 4:25:55 PM PST by backhoe
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To: B4Ranch; JohnHuang2; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen; Mama_Bear; poet...
LATEST NEWS PING

"We made the Center Section of the SAN DIEGO Union-Tribune. I haven't seen it yet but Sam told me that there is THREE pictures of RT Northcut with the article. Hurrah! Thanks to all of you we have alerted the City of Solana Beach and the rest of California that mistreating Viet Nam Vets, especially ones who have difficulty mentally are
NOT THE VETS TO MESS WITH!"
posted by B4Ranch

"KEEP IT GOING!!!!"


Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

San Diego County Animal Control e-mail

DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us
8 posted on 11/07/2001 4:34:57 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: overseer5
"I don't care if he is a vet"

Are you a vet?
9 posted on 11/07/2001 4:37:17 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: B4Ranch
Simple solution.

We should sware in volunteers as part of the Civilian Homeland Security (CHS) force. Sware this guy in and let him guard the flag.

The rest of the CHS can take turns guarding power lines and what not. When are they gonna involve civilians in the civil defense?

10 posted on 11/07/2001 4:41:31 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: B4Ranch
Thank You so much for the update!
11 posted on 11/07/2001 4:43:32 PM PST by deadhead
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I care about Vets! Thanks for the ping
12 posted on 11/07/2001 4:44:23 PM PST by deadhead
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
That poster better stay clear of me and I am NOT kidding.
13 posted on 11/07/2001 4:45:51 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; B4Ranch
You and all on here that care and have worked so hard on this I jusy LUV ya and I love your hearts.You are good people.
14 posted on 11/07/2001 4:48:19 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: overseer5
Who really cares what you think? I don't.

You would probably feel more at home at democrats.com

He probably does not want your sympathy anyhow.

15 posted on 11/07/2001 4:53:21 PM PST by sport
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; B4Ranch
I just received a not so nice e-mail from the City Manager--I don't know how to cut and paste it here :-(
16 posted on 11/07/2001 4:55:19 PM PST by deadhead
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To: deadhead
I did too!
17 posted on 11/07/2001 4:58:05 PM PST by firewalk
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To: B4Ranch
I sent an email to the DAV in San Diego. The DAV website is located at this link (dav.org)
18 posted on 11/07/2001 4:58:12 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Snow Bunny
I am confused about this guy. Why is he homeless? Has he turned down help? Is he deliberately choosing to remain homeless? Is he a drug addict or alcoholic? Has he ever had tretment?

I am glad his response was to protect a symbol of his service, but it doesn't sound like he is right in the head.

Why would the Police "all of a sudden' arrest him for this? Is this memorial in a spot in town where a shanty would be unacceptable? Has he had other behaviours where he ran into Police problems, only for this to be the last straw?

His veteran status; is it confirmed? IS he a genuine vet? Are his awards legitimate?

Is it possible he is mentally disturbed, and that is why he is living on his own on the street? It does NOT sound lke a rational act, to go to the town square and protect a memorial, no matter how well intentioned.

I'd like to know more about the guy, but from what I have read in the last few days, it sounds like this guy needs to spend time with a counselor.

< If he is a veteran, he has my sympathy, in fact, if he is NOT a vet, he has my sympathy, but his actions don't sound right to me.

19 posted on 11/07/2001 4:58:39 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Snow Bunny
OH, boy, that poster is in deep trouble. I've NEVER seen you say anything even remotely bad about somebody else. I'm sitting here laughing myself silly. You go get 'em, sweetheart! I'll pay a quarter to watch. LOL

On a serious note ... I am so proud of everybody who has taken a stand and supported this man and his dog. And I'm ESPECIALLY proud of B4Ranch for bringing it to our attention and keeping it to the forefront so that we don't "forget". I pray that God heap multiple blessings upon the pro bono attorneys, too!

GOD BLESS OUR VETS & KEEP THEM SAFE.

20 posted on 11/07/2001 5:02:37 PM PST by JudyB1938
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