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ANTHRAX IN CONNECTICUT
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Posted on 11/20/2001 1:20:39 PM PST by RaceBannon

Just broke in to the news now!!!


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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Thanks for the sequence. I'm guessing flu and someone with an active imagination or need for publicity...unless she is Senator Dodd's mother.
151 posted on 11/20/2001 5:39:18 PM PST by harrowup
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To: The Raven
Yes, it can be the middle eastern crowd.

The national demonrats in the last 40 years have been associated with immorality of all kinds. The Islamic groups would go after those that are unG*dly first. I think they have a tad more respect for those who do believe in G*D than those who don't. When you look at bloody bill clinton and the demonrats of the last 20 years, what do you see? They would see bloody bill and his party as satanic. I don't think they can conceive of anyone not believing in a G*D, so they'd put them in the satanic group.

Last night, somewhere here on FR, I read where a group heading and working in Afghanistan's vaccination lab has disappeared. About 7 months ago, 1/2 the people just left. The lab techs said they were going to America and Europe. The mullah that was in charge of the lab just disappeared at the same time. They could be here or in Europe doing the anthrax attacks. How many people are going to check the baby powder of everyone who flies. We also know that customs only checks a small percentage of incoming shipments for anything, let alone anthrax.

We know sleepers are still in the US.

I don't believe that it's a homegrown conservative right wing republican type doing this.

152 posted on 11/20/2001 5:45:21 PM PST by chantal7
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To: Lessismore
"The old bag from Connecticut" love it!
154 posted on 11/20/2001 5:50:19 PM PST by teresat
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To: FR_addict
I read on another post all wool is irradiated in the USA to make sure it is anthrax free. So this isn't likely either.

Nor are depends.(Sorry, about that.)

156 posted on 11/20/2001 6:08:21 PM PST by #1CTYankee
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To: Geezerette
I think all Social Security transactions have been electronically transferred to banks the past few years.

Only if the recipient requests direct deposit.

157 posted on 11/20/2001 6:22:34 PM PST by Samwise
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To: RaceBannon
"...other training sessions took place in Connecticut where Islamic militants trained on weekends. A FBI report, based on Connecticut State Police intelligence, summarized the activities of the training sessions using semi automatic weapons..."

From some site www.iacsp.com/itobli3.html

It doesn't say what towns they trained in would be interesting to see if one of them was Oxford.

159 posted on 11/20/2001 6:31:08 PM PST by teresat
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Thanks for the heads up!
160 posted on 11/20/2001 6:37:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: KC Burke
Thanks for the heads up!
161 posted on 11/20/2001 6:42:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: teresat
I suppose all gun clubs are under suspicion now.
162 posted on 11/20/2001 6:51:59 PM PST by George from New England
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To: RaceBannon
Race-

Thanks for the bump I have family all over CT.

163 posted on 11/20/2001 6:54:08 PM PST by michaelje
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Reading through this thread... it's pretty damned disturbing she came to them on Wednesday (is that confirmed?) and they didn't think to test for anthrax until SUNDAY!! Sure she's not a 'likely' victim based on passed incidents but come on now!
164 posted on 11/20/2001 7:03:17 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Interesting theory, scary.
165 posted on 11/20/2001 7:09:56 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: teresat
interesting theory.
166 posted on 11/20/2001 7:14:26 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: George from New England
Now why would a gun club target a 94yr old lady? What if there was some link between where the islamic militants trained in Connecticut and the Oxford area? It would be nice if there was some way to prove that the anthrax was from islamic militants as opposed to the medias cry of it being from a domestic group.
167 posted on 11/20/2001 7:19:40 PM PST by teresat
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To: George from New England
I do not know what tests are needed to make the preliminary diagnosis. But since most hospital labs have not had a demand in the past to do the testing it would not surprise me if they messed up. I know from personal experience, and I'll bet there are plenty of Freepers who have shared the experience, that labs have messed up routine tests. I am talking about the kind they do thousands of daily. The techs are under a lot of pressure for volume production. Quality control in labs is not as good as we would expect. Whenever results come back that are not near the expected numbers, my doctors run the tests again. SOmetimes they have changed labs to run a second time just to be sure that numbers are valid.
168 posted on 11/20/2001 7:20:15 PM PST by rebdov
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I am not sure the FBI will think of that :-) I think you should send an email to a few people. It would explain how this woman got it versus the idea that the Wiccans are after her.
169 posted on 11/20/2001 7:26:22 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: teresat
No, it was Blue Trail Gun range in Wallingford. Been there!
170 posted on 11/20/2001 7:30:24 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Oxford, CT., lady, 94 years old.
Work History: did she work in any 'labs' around the old/new world, during WW-I , WW-II,...later??
Other 'Government' work if any??
171 posted on 11/20/2001 7:32:15 PM PST by maestro
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To: teresat
Is the wool irradiated before or after the sweaters are made in China, Honduras, and India?

I don't know. I tried to find more info below.

Anthrax is very rare in the United States and in other countries where animals are inspected before and after slaughter.

Sterilise wool, hair, hides and other infected products by ethylene oxide gas or ionising (gamma) radiation.

Meanwhile the first commercial irradiator was used in the 1960s to kill any lingering anthrax germs in lambs wool sweaters.

Didn't really find an answer to your question nor did I confirm that irradiation is always in use.

172 posted on 11/20/2001 7:33:23 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: RaceBannon
Are you sure? I could swear the Hartford Courant had some story on Bin Laden or people associated with the first world trade center bombing a couple years ago and I don't think it mentioned Wallingford as where they were training. Do you have a link to the info?
173 posted on 11/20/2001 8:02:24 PM PST by teresat
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To: blackdog
It is certainly possible that anthrax cases have been missed in the past but I don't think that this is a reasonable explanation for these cases. While it would not be likely that an old lady dying of pneumonia would trigger an autopsy by a coroner or medical examiner, it is likely that for every person dying unattended at home many more would be admitted to a hospital for their terminal illness. Probably, in the United States, more dying in a hospital than dying at home. If indeed they made it to the hospital, then they would, as in the case in New York and - presumably - this case would have had a culture. While not making a definitive diagnosis from a culture or sputum gram stain, the finding of bacilli and not the far more common cocci would set off alarm bells. As a pathologist practicing for over thirty years in the northeast - both as a hospital pathologist and forensic pathologist I have seen a grand total of ZERO cases of clinical anthrax. This applies to cases diagnosed premortem and cases of unexplained deaths referred to the medical examiner for autopsy and definitive diagnosis. Zero, zip, zilch. I do not think, therefor, that we are now seeing cases that have been previously overlooked.
174 posted on 11/20/2001 8:03:56 PM PST by drjoe
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To: RaceBannon
Thanks for the ping. Saw Gov. Rowland on CNN tonight speaking about this (LIVE at around 10:15PM).
175 posted on 11/20/2001 8:13:10 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Thanks for the links, SOT.

Bump!

176 posted on 11/20/2001 8:13:55 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
While many old people get actual social security checks instead of direct deposits, I would imagine that they would come from regional offices instead of all being mailed out from one place. Direct Deposit has been unpopular with many seniors, since going to the bank on whatever day of the month to deposit the check was a very popular activity.
177 posted on 11/20/2001 8:19:54 PM PST by Koblenz
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To: harrowup
Thanks for the sequence. I'm guessing flu and someone with an active imagination or need for publicity...unless she is Senator Dodd's mother.

Ever read the Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth? Great book. Anyway, Ukranian freedom fighters figure they can get the head of the KGB by first running over his mom. Then she goes to the hospital, and they shoot the KGB head when he visits the hospital...

178 posted on 11/20/2001 8:22:17 PM PST by Koblenz
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For $60 one can take a twenty minute ride in an open cockpit plane (1941 Stearman Bi-Plane) from the Oxford Airport.
179 posted on 11/21/2001 1:37:43 AM PST by atafak
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To: RaceBannon
I had ondition once. It was spooky!

Then I had a flat tire at the airport and they moved me to first class.

Spooky 2. Ondition is a real pisser if you don't catch it quick.

Take a lot of water and pee.

180 posted on 11/21/2001 2:01:07 AM PST by johnny7
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To: atafak
This from the Middleton Connecticut Press. Derby is about ten miles from Oxford. Omerovic appears to be a Bosnian Muslim name:

The news comes a week after a Derby man was arrested on charges that he sent letters threatening anthrax exposure to several state and federal offices.

Amir Omerovic, 27, is charged with sending letters to the governor's office, the Judicial Review Council and U.S. Coast Guard offices in Hartford, and to a U.S. Marine Corps office in Danbury.

The FBI said at the time that there was no evidence Omerovic had access to anthrax. The letters did not contain any white powders or other suspicious substance.

181 posted on 11/21/2001 2:04:02 AM PST by atafak
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To: chantal7
Yes, it can be the middle eastern crowd.

Look at the list....Leahy, Kennedy, Dodd, Daschel, NBC

I can't figure out the NY Post or the Sun, however.

And, I suppose, Hillary would be at the top of a RW fanactic's list - but not a pro-Palestinian's list. So, maybe you're right.

182 posted on 11/21/2001 2:23:12 AM PST by The Raven
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To: harrowup
Maybe there's a tiny bit floating through the mail system, and some people are hyper-sensitive.

What we don't know - is how accurate the anthrax detection tests are. They can be reporting negative - because the spores are below detection limits or they're looking in the wrong spot.

183 posted on 11/21/2001 2:25:37 AM PST by The Raven
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Indexing
185 posted on 11/21/2001 2:27:56 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: D Joyce
It's a d*mn good thing then that people in America did not do any yard work or gardening during the twentieth century. Otherwise we might have had more than the 18 cases of inhalation anthrax that we had during that entire century in the USA.
188 posted on 11/21/2001 3:34:36 AM PST by atafak
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To: D Joyce
And how many cases of inhalation anthrax did your psychic advisor tell you that we missed detecting during the twentieth century?
190 posted on 11/21/2001 4:02:02 AM PST by atafak
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To: RaceBannon
This is what happened to us a few days ago...

We were straightening up for Thanksgiving and my husband was in our living room, which is a room we barely use. We sometimes put mail in there. Anyway, he was sorting the mail and carrying some of it to the trashcan in our kitchen. Sometime later, we noticed white powder on a piece of furniture that was between the two rooms. We looked at each other and chuckled. We are not famous, nor are we democrats, so there is virtually no chance someone would deliberately send us Anthrax. I smelled the powder and it smelled like baby powder.

We didn't panic because getting Anthrax specifically sent to you is highly unlikely for anyone, especially someone who is not a high profile person. Second, if we were to somehow get Anthrax, we would not have seen any powder, because it would have come from the residue of another piece of mail. Third, Anthrax powder is brownish, and this was pure white. Fourth, it is probably unlikely that Anthrax smells like baby powder. :) It was hours later when I recalled seeing a small container of baby powder in a nearby drawer.

192 posted on 11/21/2001 4:21:11 AM PST by Snowy
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To: eastforker
---no, I didn't hear about this phone call story. Who called who?
193 posted on 11/21/2001 4:23:48 AM PST by zog
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To: D Joyce
Two suggestions:

1.) Learn the difference between cutaneous and inhalation anthrax.

2.) Read post #174 by DrJoe, a northeastern pathologist.

194 posted on 11/21/2001 4:28:09 AM PST by atafak
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To: SarahW
"Medical supplies. You heard it here first."

Look, I don't have a tin-foil attitude, but a strange thing happened to me last evening. I called my local Wal-Mart pharmacist (Neighborhood Market) to refill a prescription. It is a common drug for women to take. The pharmacist told me that particular drug isn't in stock, but she would try and find it for me. THEN she went on to say "we have been having trouble getting ALOT of prescription drugs lately".. I asked her "Why"? She said "I really don't have any idea why we aren't getting them"...

I'll know today if I can get my prescription refilled. Go figure.

sw

195 posted on 11/21/2001 4:51:24 AM PST by spectre
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To: tracer; denydenydeny
I thought it was a movie with Cary Grant.
196 posted on 11/21/2001 4:57:12 AM PST by TheLadyCrysania
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To: teresat
Where I got the Wallingford info from, was from that Video, JIHAD IN AMERICA. They showed a gun range where many Arab types were shooting about 1000 rounds every weekend, and I recognized it. It was the range where me and some of my former co-workers go sometimes. It is also owned by a present Freepers Cousin or brother in law. In fact, soon, there may be a showing of that Video of Jihad in America there on some friday night!
197 posted on 11/21/2001 5:03:47 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: D Joyce
The good doctor hastens to reply that most of his professional life has been spent in Leesburg, Va - a concrete jungle in Loudoun County Va - ca 15000-20000 town population [over the years] and while the vets are aware of the potential hazard the incidence rate of human inhalational anthrax is, as said before, ZERO. And yes we are aware of it [Ft. Detrick is some thirty miles north of here in Frederick Md] but we don't see it 'cause it's not there . Until now.
199 posted on 11/21/2001 6:27:55 AM PST by drjoe
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To: theDentist
I didn't realize Anthraxx was Touring again

I think she's just on a "listening tour."

200 posted on 11/21/2001 6:38:48 AM PST by Attillathehon
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