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Early Outspoken Opponents of Abortion - all women
Susan B Anthony Web Site ^

Posted on 11/23/2001 9:19:59 PM PST by AgThorn


The namesake of the Susan B. Anthony List was an outspoken opponent of abortion, referring to it as "child murder." Anthony's colleagues were united with her in this position.

"Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; but oh, thrice guilty is he who...drove her to the desperation which impelled her to the crime!" -The Revolution, 1869
Susan B. Anthony
"When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit." - Elizabeth Cady Stanton in a letter to Julia Ward Howe, October 16, 1873. Recorded in Howe's diary at Harvard University Library.
  Elizabeth Cady Stanton
"Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women."
-Alice Paul is the author of the original Equal Rights Amendment (1923)
Alice Paul
"Every woman knows that if she were free, she would never think of murdering a child before its birth." -Victoria Woodhull was America's first female presidential candidate. Wheeling, West Virginia Evening Standard November 17, 1875
  Victoria Woodhull

Since Roe V. Wade, there have been 28 million
abortions in this country.

This is an atrocity. We believe a crucial part to ending abortion is to have women speaking out AGAINST abortion. The media and the pro-abortion lobby have created the perception that ALL women are "pro-choice," and that abortion is a "Women's Issue." This is ridiculous.

Poll after poll shows that women are more pro-life than "pro-choice."

Illegal or "Stricter Limits"
for all age groups
Illegal or "Stricter Limits"
for 18-29 year old women
January 1998 Nationwide New York Times/CBS News Poll
— 63% of women felt abortion should be illegal or available only under "stricter limits." Of 18-29 year old women, the percentage was 70%.




Illegal in all cases or with "stricter limits"
Legal at any time
Legal in 1st Trimester
Legal in 2nd trimester
Undecided
Bacelice & Associates June 1998— 54% of women felt abortion should be illegal in ALL cases or only allowed for rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. Women who felt abortion should be legal at any time 10%, legal in the 1st Trimester 25%, legal in the 2nd Trimester 5%.





Gallup 1998 - 23% of women say abortion should be
legal in all circumstances. (Down from 36% in 1995)


We all know women are uniquely connected to this issue. The pro-abortion forces have used this to their advantage. We must counter their efforts and have women in public office who will stand up on the floors of the House and Senate and say enough is enough, women want abortion stopped.

Currently there are 72 women in Congress and only 7 of these women are pro-life, that is less than 10%! When bills come before Congress to restrict abortions, radical pro-abortion Congresswomen and Senators dominate the debate. This is just not acceptable. We are determined to change this.

In addition, we need women to act as a grassroots lobbying force and as messengers contacting Congress and state legislatures.

When a woman speaks out against abortion, her voice is listened to — she can make a great difference.



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To: ~EagleNebula~
Not you......
61 posted on 11/24/2001 7:06:02 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: ~EagleNebula~
Check Freepmail.
62 posted on 11/24/2001 7:07:07 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
DITTO! ::giggle::
63 posted on 11/24/2001 7:09:59 PM PST by ~EagleNebula~
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To: AgThorn
"Every woman knows that if she were free, she would never think of murdering a child before its birth." -Victoria Woodhull

Well we all know that one isn't true. Women ARE free, and they still think nothing of murdering unborn children. I don't much care for the bit from Susan B blaming men more than women for abortion.. It's time many women started taking responsibility for their own sins.. I've listened to a lot of women in prison who blame their incarceration almost solely on the influence of some man.

64 posted on 11/24/2001 7:12:28 PM PST by goodieD
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To: pcl
anti-free choice people
Anti-free choice people? What a strange name. What exactly is an anti-free choice person? And could you introduce me to one? Heck, most pro-lifers don’t even qualify as anti-choice. We couldn’t give a rats *ss about choice. We care about life, and could properly be considered anti-abortion or anti-murder, but are more properly considered pro-life. Your phrase is just plain silly. You anti-God pro-sucking the blood from babies, small deer and cute bunny rabbits person you.

patent  +AMDG

65 posted on 11/24/2001 7:16:47 PM PST by patent
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To: pcl
Now you are saying she must keep her child rather than dispose of it by adoption?

You do have a peculiar way of speaking.........we're not talking about a Bic lighter here.

Maybe you are.

66 posted on 11/24/2001 7:28:11 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: SuziQ
"I think it rankles Planned Parenthood and the feminists that there is a group known as Feminists for Life. "

Believe me, it does! That's why I'm a member. We defuse those hard, cold, aborting fanatics with their own tired language.

By the way, FFL comprises very moderate, feminine "feminists", girly-girls. Patricia Heaton is a long-time member and honorary chair (whatever that means.)

67 posted on 11/24/2001 7:35:22 PM PST by hillsborofox
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To: patent
You anti-god pro-sucking the blood from babies, small deer and cute bunny rabbits person you.

Not bad. Got any more?

68 posted on 11/24/2001 8:39:09 PM PST by pcl
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To: COB1
Thanks for the ping, COB1, but I already am involved and have been involved for several years. My personal opinion is that we have to get the message out to YOUNG girls BEFORE they find themselves in compromising positions - pardon the pun.

(Glad to see you're back in business with your computer!)

69 posted on 11/24/2001 8:49:25 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Old Professer
What about all of those abused and helpless animals suffering every day, when did you last rescue a poor dog or cat or salamander from the pound?

As a matter of fact, you might call me a pro at picking up stray animals. As of today's count I have 5 cats and 2 dogs - ALL strays. I am totally pro-life.

BTW, most liberal women I know refuse to house "nasty dirty" animals. Messes up their rugs and stuff....

And your point is?? I'm waiting with baited breath.

70 posted on 11/24/2001 9:04:21 PM PST by Humidston
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To: swheats
What about the poor woman, whose baby has died in the womb, and that dead baby's, dead body decomposing abd killing the would be mother ? If that child is removed, do you consider it an abortion ? Just curious.
71 posted on 11/24/2001 9:17:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
No I don't consider that an abortion. But miscarriages are not the issue of the article. I do believe the article mentioned abortions due to the choice of a mother for reasons of convenience or inconvenience.

Personally, since you asked, I believe a woman has several choices. 1) to abstain until a more favorable time 2)form of birth control, or 3) adoption. Once she has made her choice and untimely pregnancy happens-she should think very hard on ending the life of that child by her choice.

Thinking of the immediacy of "right now" causes many women to regret the choice they made in haste. I have counselled women who turn to alcohol or drugs to ease the pain of their conscious. Every year is a memory of how old that child would have been.

72 posted on 11/24/2001 10:04:55 PM PST by swheats
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To: swheats
I wasn't arguing, I just wondered where you stood on that. I was NOT talking about a spontanious miscarriage. Some women have babies, that die in the womb and will NOT come out. If the dead baby is not removed surgically, they will often die. This is something other than a still birth.

I also know ( first hand, since it happened to a dear friend ) that tubal pregnancies are horrible things. The women, who are forced to have the baby removed because of this, are ones who have wanted to have that child, with ALL of their hearts. It is one of the saddest things.

I can not condem these poor women. If they didn't have the surgery, they would die. Just in case someone reading this doesn't know abou tubal pregnancies ( which are rare, bt NOT as rare as one might think ) the baby doesn't attach to the inside of the womb. Instead , it somehow gets out, attached to a Fallopian tube, and as the baby grow, it can explode the tube ... killing the woman and dying itself.

73 posted on 11/24/2001 10:39:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
We agree on the issues that you mentioned. I would not want any woman's life to be sacrificed for the sake of the pregnancy for medical necessity. Abortions became big business, cash only facilities making a killing (pardon the pun) making deposits of blood money.

What once used to be an answer for women whose baby had died in the womb has now become a way of life for promiscuous girls/women looking for a quick way out of responsibility. But that's just MHO.

74 posted on 11/24/2001 10:56:10 PM PST by swheats
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To: swheats
Good, we agree !

The pain , fright, and heartbreak, which my friend went through, when she had a tubal pregnancy, was horrid. I never would equate that with abortion. She and her husband wanted that baby SO much, but there was no way that that baby would EVER develope correctly, outside of the womb, and be born. All it would do is kill her.

75 posted on 11/25/2001 12:34:26 AM PST by nopardons
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To: ~EagleNebula~
Pro life ping!
76 posted on 11/25/2001 4:15:14 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: nopardons; swheats; Humidston
I'm glad you two great ladies found your common ground.
I agree with both of you.
I knew a lady who had a tubal pregnancy, and she wanted that baby so bad it almost killed her.
She's never gotten over it, and that's been thirty years ago.
That incident was the beginning of my fight to protect the lives of the unborn.
We're all human beings with the consciousness instilled by God; I don't understand why some prospective mothers would give their lives for their unborn while some would throw them in the nearest dumpster.
77 posted on 11/25/2001 4:16:05 AM PST by COB1
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To: AgThorn
"bookmarking" bump.
78 posted on 11/25/2001 4:24:33 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: goodieD
"Every woman knows that if she were free, she would never think of murdering a child before its birth." -Victoria Woodhull

Well we all know that one isn't true. Women ARE free, and they still think nothing of murdering unborn children. I don't much care for the bit from Susan B blaming men more than women for abortion.. It's time many women started taking responsibility for their own sins.. I've listened to a lot of women in prison who blame their incarceration almost solely on the influence of some man.

I will have to go back and do some re-reading on what offends you. I look at a group like this as a collection of focus, where we may not agree with every single thought but we do agree with the overall focus.

I don't know the particular bit you are referring to, but I would be surprised if "blaming men" is a theme of Susan B.

I do easily accept, as history shows, that our society is male dominated, that men more than women look LASTLY to sex for its reproductive purpose, and to sex for all it's other purposes first. Put these two together, and perhaps that is what the reference you are referring to is about.

[On the other hand, if the tables turned and we lived in a female dominated society, we may have "less sex" and there would be more gay men because of it!! ;-)]

But I think you make an excellent point about "women in prison" using men as their scapegoats. As in all arguments, there are truths on both sides. It's the distortions that we need to be cautious of and I appreciate your read on this.

79 posted on 11/25/2001 8:52:33 AM PST by AgThorn
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To: swheats
Personally, since you asked, I believe a woman has several choices. 1) to abstain until a more favorable time 2)form of birth control, or 3) adoption. Once she has made her choice and untimely pregnancy happens-she should think very hard on ending the life of that child by her choice.

PERSONALLY, I think that a MAN should not screw any woman who he hasn't talked about keeping and raising babies together for the rest of their lives together. Maybe this is 'mens' fault. Yup...I do believe that is the case.

80 posted on 11/25/2001 9:40:52 AM PST by Sungirl
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