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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Constitution Day
You know, most enterprises keep their books private. If you walked into your favorite bar, store, etc, and asked to see their books, you'd be told to go pound sand. I seems reasonable to me that Jim does not share this information. If FR were to reorganize as a not-for-profit, then the books would be required to be available to the public. That does NOT mean that they'd have to be posted, only that you can go see them.

I don't see why on earth Jim or anyone else would bother with something like this and NOT try to make a profit. In view of the legal stuff, which sounds like a major pain in the a**, he certainly deserves a profit!!

1,221 posted on 11/29/2001 7:11:01 AM PST by SCalGal
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To: fallclassicus
This thread is hilarious and actually a very clever fund raiser. It reminds me of that TV preacher a couple of years ago who told his congregation that God told him if he did not collect millions of dollars from them very soon, that he would be "called home" (killed). Keep up the comedy.

Mojo! You *DID* show up! Great!

No, you see, my unsuccessful screen-writer friend, it is a classic double-back 180-degree spinaround psyche-out. He wants you to THINK that's what he's doing, so when you write this, people will think O! So THAT'S what JimRob's up to then decide to write a check just to prove you wrong!

1,222 posted on 11/29/2001 7:11:08 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson
No, no! Don't go! Hang in there Jim! You have done a great service and keep up the good work!
1,223 posted on 11/29/2001 7:11:44 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Jim Robinson
I LOVE FR
1,224 posted on 11/29/2001 7:11:53 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/profile?u=337
1,225 posted on 11/29/2001 7:12:31 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: SCalGal
I agree: he does deserve a profit.

He has created a popular, engaging, marketable site and should be rewarded for it.

1,226 posted on 11/29/2001 7:12:42 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Jim Robinson
I lurked here for quite a while before finally signing up. This site is simply the best. People who claim mismanagement don't know what a site like this costs. I've donated before and will again because the value here is better than almost any pay news site. The answer to your question is don't close; keep up the great work in support of the Constitution and our country.
1,227 posted on 11/29/2001 7:12:45 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Fiddlstix
Well, If you should decide to do an IPO.... Put Me down for 1000 shares..... (for starters)

Ok, I'll help Jim out and run it for him. Here's the terms.

Total float= 1000 shrs
Offering price= $100,000
Allocation= one holder
One holder= You

I will act as transfer agent and I'll let you know where to send payment after consulting with Jim. :-)

1,228 posted on 11/29/2001 7:12:54 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hi Harry; It is good to see you back.
1,229 posted on 11/29/2001 7:13:23 AM PST by BADJOE
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To: Gordian Blade
There are over 70,000 registered members on FReerepublic. If every one of them contributed $1 per month, we'd be in good shape. Of course, not all 70,000 are still active and not all will contribute, so that drives the contribution needed per member up.

Not everyone can afford to contribute and not everyone wants to, so the amount contributed is really up to the individual. Those who choose to contribute pick the amount they are comfortable with and it has managed to keep FR afloat so far.

There are many who get frustrated seeing the seeminly endless fundraising threads each quarter, but until we have sufficient monthly donations to pay the bills, they are a necessary fact of life.

1,230 posted on 11/29/2001 7:13:28 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: Jim Robinson
The fraud is/are those that make these accusations Jim. Frankly, I would not mind seeing you and John make $$ on this great place--you earn it. Keep steady and damn the detractors....e!
1,231 posted on 11/29/2001 7:13:59 AM PST by eureka!
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To: fallclassicus
Anyone remember "DAN'S BAKE SALE"?? Why couldn't we do our own rendition of this?? Once a year.Possibly include an auction of valuable stuff.
1,232 posted on 11/29/2001 7:14:07 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: unsycophant
no, please don't close down the site. with today's insane world i need a place to communicate with intelligent, like-minded people. FR is a fantastic service and i sign in to FR and drudge first thing in the AM to get news and opinions.
1,233 posted on 11/29/2001 7:14:25 AM PST by contessa machiaveli
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To: BADJOE
see post #1216...I meant to ping you.
1,234 posted on 11/29/2001 7:14:37 AM PST by Jackie222
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To: unsycophant
LOL!! You're funny. Jim is the victim here, right?

I'm just "Howlin" with laughter over here.

ROFLMAO!!! Good one!

1,235 posted on 11/29/2001 7:15:31 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Lazamataz
it is a classic double-back 180-degree spinaround psyche-out.

LOL! Had to do a double-take when I read that line!

1,236 posted on 11/29/2001 7:15:43 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,
The tension and hand-to-mouth that you have had to endure will this provisional judgement hangs over your head has been more than a lesser man could bear, IMHO. The dedication to keep it going during this time is nothing but admirable.

Once the sword that hangs over your head passes or falls, the knowledge that from that point forward the money will go to you and the site, will open up the contributions. Donations will always be limited, as they are now, by the thought that LAT/WP and their attorneys will grab the assets and equipment. When that sword passes or hits, and we can put you on solid footing with little and big contributions and donations...watchout world...FreeRepublic.com will really be on the map.

Keep faith in the worthyness of your creation and toil until then. We will stand by you during that bitter or happy time and then, even if shut down due to judgement...one e-mail to each will be the trigger to put make this whole if I am any judge of my fellows.

1,237 posted on 11/29/2001 7:17:03 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd be lost without this site now! I rely on it for information and educate myself on a daily basis.
1,238 posted on 11/29/2001 7:18:25 AM PST by WomanofStandard
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To: ThomasJefferson
Sounds Good to me

Looking at your profile, I see you're a stock trader.

Good to meet you.
Maybe we can do some business.
I'm always buying or selling something or the other :)
God Bless
1,239 posted on 11/29/2001 7:18:53 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hi Harry,

Gosh, there are SO many questions and so few chances to seek answers, I couldn't pass on the opportunity.

I have no idea about Chuck, but I'm pleased that his efforts were the catalyst for this dialogue. And to think, it sort of naturally morphed into a fundraiser, like Vermonter said!

1,240 posted on 11/29/2001 7:19:06 AM PST by Z2
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