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Posted on 12/07/2001 10:15:51 PM PST by madrussian

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To: GROUCHOTWO
The Nobel Prize...contrary to popular opinion it is not 'bestowed'. Had Armand Hammer lived long enough, there is a very good chance he would have received one.

He would not have received one for science. I only included Nobel Prize winners for Physics, Chemistry and Biology/Medicine, not the BS prizes such as the "Peace Prize."

It is in the sciences that the Poles seem to fall down. But, on the bright side, a lot of the Jewish prize winners probably had Polish cleaning ladies, if that makes you feel any better.

61 posted on 12/11/2001 12:17:22 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: madrussian
The fact that people were fleeing civil war where millions got killed, famine and shortages, doesn't prove anything.

You claim that Jews ran the Soviet Union and you claim that Jews liked communism. And yet Jews were among the most likely of any ethnic group to leave the Soviet Union while people could still get out. The desire of Jews to get away from Communist Russia was not a post-Stalin phenomenon, or a Jackson-Vanik era phenomenon, it exhibited itself from the very beginning of the communist regime.

3 million Jews wound up in the new (non-communist) nation of Poland, including 700,000 who moved there from other parts of the old Russian Empire. That does not even count the many Sovet Jews who applied for Polish citizenship and were turned away!

That certainly seems strange if Jews "ran the Soviet Union" or wanted to live under communism. Why would so many Jews leave a country that they supposedly ran?

62 posted on 12/11/2001 12:34:18 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
A little trouble with reading comprehension seems to plague your interpretation. The above reference was to all those awards.

BTW, the only citation about a Polish cleaning lady was the one in NY who was bludgeoned to death by a rabbi's grandson. The Hassids protected the killer by spiriting him away. The police were deterred from investigating because the Hassids are considered 'above the law' in NY.

63 posted on 12/11/2001 12:54:22 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: GROUCHOTWO
The above reference was to all those awards.

Oh, so you think Armand Hammer could have won a science award? You think the science awards are just bought? Which of the science award winners would you say is not legitimate and explain why.

64 posted on 12/11/2001 1:14:18 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
There are some selected over others just like there are some in New York that are prosecuted when others get away with murder.
65 posted on 12/11/2001 1:33:28 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: malarski
These Jews were Polish citizens. Therefore, they were simply traitors.

Jews were Polish citizens only when it suited the Polish government to call the citizens.

In October of the previous year, Germany had attempted to deport all Jews with Polish citizenship back to Poland. However, the Polish government said that, since they were Jews, they were NOT Polish citizens. The Polish government refused to allow them entry.

This incident did not exactly inspire loyalty among the Polish Jewish population.

66 posted on 12/11/2001 2:10:59 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: GROUCHOTWO
There are some selected over others just like there are some in New York that are prosecuted when others get away with murder.

So your position is that the reason only one Pole has ever won a Nobel Prize for science is political? Do you have any evidence that deserving Poles have been denied Nobel Prizes because they were Polish?

67 posted on 12/11/2001 2:14:17 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
Read Zuckerman to find out about the incest surrounding these awards.
68 posted on 12/11/2001 2:19:36 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: GROUCHOTWO; madrussian; malarski; Askel5; Zviadist; Free the USA; struwwelpeter; NewAmsterdam...
Start about Russia, Antarctica, three wheel industrial bicycles, Yeti, Kabul nights, the Milky Way and our dude turns the thread up side down and talks about cleaning ladies, Gacynski (Gacy+Kaczynski!), Zaolzie/Czechoslovakia, smart commie spy or Nobel.
Strange obsession. Kind of SM too.

Hope this young girl wasn't our cleaning lady. Poor child.
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It's interesting that charges against pervert were dismissed.
"Lew pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit a forcible felony and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. A judge later reconsidered the sentence and placed him on five years' probation."
"A store clerk was shot and awarded more than a million dollars in a civil lawsuit, but Lew has yet to pay any restitution." http://www.wsjs.com/news/01-06-Jun/010616-NWS.html
What a country, hm?
Looks like he's one of those guys who alienated the whole town of good Lutheran neighbors in Iowa, turned the place into pigsty, brought a lot of illegal aliens (who worked for peanuts) and were "smeared" in a book about Postville by self-hater (and socialist or even commie) Stephen Bloom.

69 posted on 12/11/2001 2:54:29 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: Inyokern
You claim that Jews ran the Soviet Union and you claim that Jews liked communism.

I never said anything in those terms. Those statements are too broad. Read the first paragraph of the article, that's closer to what I said.

it exhibited itself from the very beginning of the communist regime.

The regime, over which Jews strangely presided (sans Lenin and a handful of others in a overwhelmingly Jewish government).

70 posted on 12/11/2001 3:01:18 PM PST by madrussian
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To: CommiesOut
POLISH PRIEST GETS WRIST SLAP. Charges of raping a 16-year-old from Poland were dropped against Rev. Julian Pagacz, 50, pastor of St. Valentine’s Polish National Catholic Church in Northampton, after she refused to testify. Charges of indecently assaulting a Hampshire Co. girl, age 17, were plea-bargained down to one charge of indecent touch. Pagacz was accused of threatening to deport the Polish girl if she reported the rape. A judge ordered him to turn over the girl’s passport, as well as his own. He also denies a charge by a neighbor that she and her husband caught him looking in her window late one night and that she had stopped sunbathing in the backyard because he ogled her. She wrote out a trespass notice against him and informed the church, but was told "he wouldn’t do that". Angry parishioners decried the women’s complaints as a "witch hunt". Follower Ellen Mierzewski called one of the alleged victims "a Communist who thought she’d get money out of it". Source:

Springfield Union-News 2/17,18/92, 5/8/92; Sun-Republican 2/16/92; Boston Globe 5/5,8/92.

71 posted on 12/11/2001 3:09:08 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: CommiesOut
Looks like inny got his sources mixed up. It was Rabbi Lanner who was accused. That's the guy from NY who was in charge of the food tax.
72 posted on 12/11/2001 3:24:41 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: GROUCHOTWO
He's is trying to make peace with us by showing that charges against our dude were dropped because girl refused to testify. Ergo: no crime.
I treat him as a friend from now on.
Btw, almost forgot that something like National Church exist.
Another opportunity to do a research and learn new things.
73 posted on 12/11/2001 3:45:26 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
The Postville story is fascinating. It was more than a clash of cultures. It was an invasion of indiscriminate law-breakers. People in Postville were honest, neighborly and law-abiding. They hadn't experienced an armed robbery for 25 years until these people moved in.

By buying off politicians, judges and others they are continuing to pervert this area. Don't get me wrong. Postville is still a better area to live in than some places, but the law breaking continues. Fines for contaminating river and ground water are ignored. Hiring illegal aliens is no problem for these ex-New Yorkers. Theft and robberies are commonplace now.

"What strange birds that foul their own nest."

74 posted on 12/11/2001 4:08:50 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: Inyokern
In October of the previous year, Germany had attempted to deport all Jews with Polish citizenship back to Poland.

Any links on the above? Also, what were the Jews doing in Germany in October of 193?. By any chance were they citizens of two or more countries or maybe also owners of some of the most disrespectful business establishments?
Interesting, interesting ...

75 posted on 12/11/2001 5:18:19 PM PST by malarski
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Hey. Here is a great page about Polish intellectuals
76 posted on 12/11/2001 5:28:05 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: malarski
Any links on the above?

Last paragraph.

77 posted on 12/11/2001 5:54:12 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Looks like inny got his sources mixed up. It was Rabbi Lanner who was accused.

Perhaps you mean Phillip Carl Jablonski

78 posted on 12/11/2001 6:02:06 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Our friend should take some break.
He doesn't even know that not every -ski is Polish and not every -stein is Jewish.
Telling truth he looks like an crypto-antisemite to me.
NORTH COAST CLASSIFIEDS
79 posted on 12/11/2001 6:48:33 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: Inyokern
a lot of the Jewish prize winners probably had Polish cleaning ladies, if that makes you feel any better.

Inny, you never learn. Because of guys like you, who treat Polish, Russian, German or Arab cleaning ladies with disrespect and contempt, the world situation is becoming worse and worse. You may recall that Hitler's and Stalin's mothers were cleaning ladies for the Jewish families. And see what happened? If I were you, I would be nice to the cleaning ladies and janitors. Surprisingly, they do know a lot of dirty secrets of the families that they work for.

80 posted on 12/11/2001 7:47:34 PM PST by malarski
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