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Rail: The Case for "Interstate II"
Washington (DC) Highway Transportation Fraternity | May 1999 | Gil Carmichael

Posted on 12/20/2001 8:42:55 AM PST by Publius

People identify me with railroad issues and advocacy. They forget that I came out of the highway lobby. As late as 1987 I was active in promoting a $1.6 billion, 1077-mile, 4-lane highway development program for my home state of Mississippi. During my business career I have owned five auto dealerships and an air charter service. My first involvement at the federal level was in highway safety. President Nixon named me to the National Highway Safety Advisory Committee. In 1975 President Ford appointed me to the National Transportation Policy Study Commission which was chaired by Bud Shuster. I led the subcommittee on advanced technology.

I went into this process a strong believer in highway transportation. After three years I was transformed into a believer in inter-modal transportation. Those sentiments were confirmed by my later work as Federal Railroad Administrator under President Bush, which also brought me into contact with leaders in aviation and transit. My comments reflect nearly thirty years of hands-on experience.

The Interstate Highway Program

Forty years ago America embarked upon the Interstate Highway System. We built 46,000 miles of multi-lane routes without stoplights or grade crossings. It was a grand achievement. But if you think about it, the interstate system was not designed for high-speed travel. In most states the top speed limits are only five miles an hour above those posted on the conventional numbered roadways of the 1950’s. The great benefit of the interstates was that we increased capacity by a large factor, and avoided the stoplights, traffic jams, and slow-downs that held average speeds to 50 miles an hour or less.

The interstate system had dramatic impacts upon mobility, economic growth and transportation efficiency. But its development created problems that we did not consider important at that time. Some urban areas experienced economic growth, which was spurred by their access to modern highway corridors. Others confronted more disruptive consequences. Urban interstates also became commuter routes, which fragmented downtowns and helped spread residential and commercial development to widely scattered suburbs. Many city centers were devastated, and many small towns withered as the new routes chose green-field rights-of-way.

Few people worried about air pollution in the 1950’s. In one respect our air had become cleaner because Americans of that era had switched from coal furnaces and coal-fired industrial boilers to cleaner units which used natural gas or electricity. Meanwhile, our modern highways stimulated the explosion of personal transportation by automobile, instead of public transportation by transit or rail. By the 1970’s, vehicle emissions represented the primary source of urban pollutants.

For a time, Detroit built smaller cars, but the growth in overall numbers of trucks and automobiles soon offset the pollution savings. Local governments chose to pursue industrial polluters instead of confronting the tricky problem of restricting autos and trucks. The result was to drive manufacturing out of urban counties.

Today, commuters coming to the city to work in service industries pass outbound commuters headed for factories, which have relocated to the urban fringe. City governments are losing the battle against air pollution, and have resorted to such strategies as urging residents not to run their lawn mowers on high-ozone days or avoid fueling their autos until after dark. Yet most large cities will flunk the new EPA air-quality standards.

Interstates are regarded as safer than conventional highways, but higher vehicle counts, rush-hour traffic jams, and rising driver frustration are degrading the safety performance. Highway fatalities remain at an unacceptable 40,000+ per year. We would not tolerate this situation in air or rail service.

The Problem of Congestion and "Externalities"

Only in recent years have transportation engineers and analysts begun to focus on these impacts. They commonly are referred to as "externalities" -- the costs of pollution, energy waste, land disruption, accidents and time wasted in traffic jams. These costs sometimes are hidden, but they are real. More to the point, highway user fees do not cover them. A study conducted for the American Trucking Association concluded that the trucking industry alone was responsible for $30 billion in annual costs which exceed the user fees it pays. Those costs have been transferred to the general taxpayer and to the consumer in the form of higher prices. And that's only part of the true cost of these external impacts.

Right now, our highway and airway-based passenger system is ailing. Highway and airport gridlock is getting worse, and we have found that we cannot afford to build our way out of this gridlock. Hundred-million-dollar interchanges only move traffic jams to new locations. Highway engineers now recognize in most cases that adding lanes to urban interstates won't solve the problem. Congestion is worse. Rush hour in Chicago now covers eight hours per day. Average speeds in big-city downtowns are slower than they were 100 years ago, and the true cost of operating a new automobile is in the 40-cents-a-mile range and rising. It's currently about $6,000 a year. That works out to 500 after-tax dollars per month to move you an average of 1,200 miles a month. That's pretty expensive to move your body in your car 15,000 miles a year.

Aviation's ability to expand is on a par with the problem of legroom in its passenger seats. The cabin can be reconfigured to add an inch or two, but that's about all. Load factors are at record levels. Passengers are furious over delays and overcrowding. With Herculean effort we are able to add an airport like Denver International once every 20 years. Alternatives such as VTOL aircraft have stalled out. Airport managers' visions now are limited to their existing property boundaries. A few airport commissions, like those in New Orleans and Miami, are trying to bring high-speed rail to their terminal escalators, but most airports are not.

It has become clear that we cannot solve our transportation needs of the 21st Century just by adding ever-more-costly highway lanes. This approach simply is not sustainable. When I use the term "sustainable", I intend it to mean a system that we can afford to build, and a system whose adverse impacts upon safety, land use, energy consumption and air quality are held to acceptable limits.

The Global, High-Speed Inter-modal System

As I thought about how to overcome these challenges, I was drawn to our recent experience in inter-modal transportation. What has taken place during the past 20 years is nothing short of revolutionary. Inter-modal transportation has become the global standard for moving freight -- using a system, which is sharply focused on speed, safety, reliable scheduling and economic efficiency. Today, that network emphasizes moving freight in North America and passengers in Europe and Asia. It is beginning to include passenger service in the United States.

The global high-speed inter-modal freight system builds on the strengths of each mode that have become partners in offering service. It also makes use of the versatility of the cargo container. Cargo ships and airplanes span the oceans. The freight railroad is the high-speed, long-distance transportation artery on the land. The truck provides local feeder service at origins and destinations. Cargo airplanes deliver high-value specialized freight. This system works -- but it urgently needs dramatic improvements to its land component in order to handle growing volumes of containers delivered by ship and airplane.

Modern, high-efficiency, high-capacity inter-modal terminals are key to the system, providing almost seamless interchange. Secondary rail and highway routes support the inter-modal system and connect cities, rural regions and individual freight customers to the main-line corridors. Today, a double-stack train leaving a coastal port can replace 280 trucks, run at speeds up to 90 miles an hour on the western railroads and afford as much as nine times the fuel efficiency of container transport by highway. Overall, the operational and economic efficiency of freight's inter-modal network conserves fuel, reduces other environmental impacts and is significantly safer. It represents the most economically and environmentally "sustainable" approach to transportation services.

Meanwhile, this new inter-modal science is redrawing the railroad map of North America, linking the populations and economies of the United States, Canada, and Mexico in a true "North American Rail System." Our continental network serves 90 states and provinces with 240,000 miles of routes and almost 400 million people. Most of its main lines are in excellent shape.

Over $60 billion in private funds has been spent for upgrading to heavy-duty welded rail. Another key point is this -- customers are driving the inter-modal freight network. North American customers suffer when it comes to moving people. Passengers take what the modes have to offer, shuffle between terminals, wait at the curb for the hourly bus downtown, or head for the latest addition to the airport parking garage, where we fork over above-market rates for the "privilege" of being an airline customer. Or we find ourselves at the mercy of higher rental car prices.

One could make the case that the worst defect of our passenger transportation system is the limited number of choices it offers. Residents of cities under 100,000 population often have only one practical option for inter-city travel -- the private automobile. Where bus and Amtrak service exist, the frequencies often are insufficient to meet the customer's needs. Airlines have retreated from short-haul markets. Where air service remains, the fare levels have driven people back to their automobiles.

It's Time for "Interstate II”

It seems to me that our success in freight inter-modal points the way to the most promising strategy for transportation improvements in the years ahead. I call it "Interstate II." It is a new vision of truly high-speed inter-city travel that is based upon steel, not pavement. The concept is not radical. It combines the proven efficiency of rail transportation with the strengths of the inter-modal system. Interstate II can take advantage of rights-of-way that already exist -- both rail and highways.

Interstate II already is under way. The New York-Washington Northeast Corridor has been in place since the 1970’s. [Publius note: Actually since 1910.] High-speed trains will serve Boston later this year. Turbo-trains now operate on the Empire Corridor in New York State. Washington, Oregon and British Columbia are developing a high-speed route in the Pacific Northwest. Eight years ago Congress authorized five new high-speed rail corridors. Today, with the TEA-21 Act, thirteen have been approved for development. When Congress voted $2.3 billion in capital funds for Amtrak, it sent a message that inter-city rail passenger service is here to stay. It is interesting to note that Amtrak's package express business is booming, because express companies cannot expand if they are limited to clogged highways. Interstate II will attract mail and package express business away from highways and airways, adding to the new system's revenues, and helping to share the increased traffic loads that the other modes confront.

The evolution of Interstate II reminds me of the conditions that prevailed during the decade prior to our construction of the first interstate routes. The old two-lane roads were not adequate for traffic volumes. Several states took the lead in building toll roads -- Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas and Oklahoma. Important segments of "Interstate I" already were in operation before Congress voted to launch that project.

The same thing is happening in the 1990’s. These state and regional initiatives represent the beginning of a network of high-speed rail lines. Many of them will parallel interstate highways. During the first quarter of the 21st Century, I believe that we can build about 20,000 miles of corridors capable of running trains at 90 to 150 miles per hour. As much as another 10,000 miles of high-quality conventional rail routings will augment that network.

Often, we will be able to use the same right of way that freight railroad now occupy, if we deal with a number of key issues, including grade separation and liability. An important element of Interstate II is the requirement to eliminate at-grade highway-rail crossings. Many of them can be closed, because they are unnecessary. Others will require separation. The remainder can be fitted with high-tech crossing devices. We cannot have efficient rail corridors, conventional or high-speed, if trains encounter grade crossings every mile in the country and every block in town. Some people will shy away from the crossing-closure issue as too controversial. But think back to the 1950’s. We closed tens of thousands of road intersections when the Interstate highways were built.

For Interstate II to function properly, we also must create terminals to transfer passengers and freight among modes and routes. Fast, modern and highly efficient inter-modal terminals and yards are essential to freight's inter-modal system, providing "seamless" service. Get off an airplane at Dulles or Denver airports and you are reminded that seamless service hasn’t arrived. The seams are ripped apart just on the other side of the baggage claim.

Another important element of Interstate II will be the city center terminal. The city center terminal serves the inter-modal passenger network. It also serves cities both large and small and helps to revitalize the downtown. These facilities should be developed by local governments, just as they built and financed airports. City center terminals can be hubs for people and retailing. In larger cities they can provide a financial contribution to the overall corridor development project.

Amtrak will have a key role in the inter-city passenger component of Interstate II. But we need to start thinking about Amtrak in a more realistic context. Amtrak should be in the business of moving people inter-modally, in partnership with inter-city bus companies and local transit, but not owning track or terminals. Amtrak should operate and be treated like an airline. Airlines don't build airports. They don't carry those debt costs on their books. If airlines had been compelled to finance airports, they would not have had the capability to undertake the remarkable expansion of fleets and service that has occurred during the past forty years. What's fair for airlines ought to be fair for Amtrak, which today is burdened with aging station facilities that in many cases are an embarrassment, which discourages use.

Interstate II is Affordable

I also favor Interstate II because it represents the option we can afford.

For the equivalent of two cents on the motor fuel tax, one penny at the federal level and a second penny from the states, America could have within twenty years' time a network of high-speed rail corridors that approaches the scale of the Interstate Highway system. That commitment of fuel tax dollars would offer a powerful incentive to additional private investment as well. States and cities should be partners in the process, bringing additional revenues to the table. Again, we are talking about the equivalent of one cent on each state's motor fuel tax. Some people will argue that motor fuel taxes should only go to highway projects. But highway construction is not solving the gridlock problem. More important, the existing level of highway user fees doesn't even come close to covering the costs that highway transportation now inflicts upon our economy and society. More to the point, it is not building the system we need, one that captures the safety and capacity of the 21st Century inter-modal passenger and freight network. Cities, towns, counties and citizens already are paying for that funding gap in many indirect ways. Law enforcement costs. Emergency services costs. Land lost to highway rights-of-way that goes off the tax rolls. Pollution rules that drive industrial jobs out of urban counties despite the fact that most of the emissions are highway-related.

Aside from the obvious benefits from Interstate II, I favor it because there are no alternatives. If trends of the 1980’s and 1990’s persist into the new century -- and there is no reason to believe that they will not -- conventional solutions based upon individual modes simply cannot cope with the growth. Does anyone here seriously believe that we can double the capacity of our urban highway system within the next 15 years? The price tag for just a 10 percent increase would be staggering. And does anyone think that we will add eight or nine airports on the scale of Denver International? I would be surprised if we completed even one of them.

We are long overdue in coming to grips with the huge costs of trying to make the highways and airways solve all of our transportation needs, especially since there are efficient alternatives. It is our job to convince the American people and their opinion leaders that Interstate II is possible and is the obvious solution to our mobility needs for a new century. Rail corridors will prove to be cheaper than hundred-million-dollar interchanges that only relocate traffic jams. They will be safer than 43,000 deaths per year on America’s roadways.

This new ethical inter-modal transportation system will conserve fuel, reduce pollution and be less disruptive in using land. And just as America's toll roads used private money to finance construction, Interstate II can attract major private investment cost sharing. Private money can be applied to construction, operations, station development and equipment -- especially modern passenger, mail-and-express train-sets.

How many times have you heard people ask, "Why can't we have trains like those in Europe?" The answer is, We can. It's a question of priorities, strategy, partnerships, leadership and policy. We need to explain to the people of America that they can have a customer-driven passenger system. They can have choice within that system, and it doesn't have to cost 40 cents a mile to get anywhere. Americans also can obtain an even more efficient, low-cost freight and express network that will reap even more benefits through its inter-modal design. Americans can have interstates of steel for less cost than interstates of concrete and asphalt. And Interstate II will provide plenty of work for the traditional highway-builders.

Building this very safe, 20,000-mile, grade-separated, high-speed inter-city rail network is the key to the quality of transportation services during the next century. The money is there to do the job. The "road gang's" next goal should be to build it. It is up to you. I believe that the concept makes sense. I hope that you will agree.


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To: Tijeras_Slim
How many times have you heard people ask, "Why can't we have trains like those in Europe?"

Only liberals...

or any conservative who has actually lived in Europe, and by Europe I do not mean England. It is possibile to fly into Frankfurt and go from there by train and bus to any place in Germany and not have to walk more than half a mile.Or you can rent a car and get on Autobahn's that are seldom half a full as the Beltway. Did that last spring, and as I swumg onto the Autobahn I asked my wife, "Where is all the traffic?" Nothing near as bad as what I had encountered driving into the airport in Phiuadelphia.

201 posted on 12/20/2001 1:14:16 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: discostu
I've driven coast-to-coast (or at least east coast to Rocky Mountains) about a dozen times in the last seven years. I usually run westbound in Canada and eastbound along I-94 or I-90 in the U.S. The U.S. doesn't come close to Canada as far as the scenery is concerned, but the interstates are definitely FAST. Did Spokane to Chicago in two days driving by myself, and then on to New York in one more day. New York to Calgary via the Trans-Canada is a minimum of five days, depending on conditions along that treacherous stretch of road north of Lake Superior.
202 posted on 12/20/2001 1:16:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: cicero's_son
And you don't think that current zoning laws force people to give up choices?

Of course they do, I don't want a factory or sewer plant built next to my house.

Honestly, I get the feeling that some conservatives think the New Urbanists invented zoning laws.

No, we are just honest about what their purpose is.

When you try to restrict the size of the house I can build, how much land I may use for a yard, how big my gargage can be, whether I can have a detached shed, or how close I must get to my neighbors (note: not how far away I can be), or any other stupid, pointless restriction of my property rights, I am naturally outraged. When you do it through a regional growth plan that will not allow me to move out of your control without leaving the state, I am outraged. When you restrict the allowed use of property simply because it has been sold, I am outraged. Shall I go on?
203 posted on 12/20/2001 1:18:11 PM PST by balrog666
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To: RobbyS
It is possibile to fly into Frankfurt and go from there by train...

And in those few words, you have hit upon the key to the future of successful passenger rail in this country. "Inter-modalism", as Gil Carmichael likes to phrase it.

The idea is to get passenger trains into our airports and use them for short-haul runs similar to Europe. Even the airports get a lift. It's more profitable to use a landing slot for a high-value long-distance flight than for a short commuter hop that could be efficiently handled by rail.

204 posted on 12/20/2001 1:18:33 PM PST by Publius
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To: Publius
When you try to restrict the size of the house I can build, how much land I may use for a yard, how big my gargage can be, whether I can have a detached shed, or how close I must get to my neighbors (note: not how far away I can be), or any other stupid, pointless restriction of my property rights, I am naturally outraged. When you do it through a regional growth plan that will not allow me to move out of your control without leaving the state, I am outraged. When you restrict the allowed use of property simply because it has been sold, I am outraged. Shall I go on?

Suppose that restriction is placed on you by the private compacts and covenants of a neighborhood association, something that is extremely common in upscale neighborhoods?

205 posted on 12/20/2001 1:21:11 PM PST by Publius
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To: cicero's_son
That's not exploding into rage. I was raised by Marines and outlaw bikers, if I ever explode in rage JimRob will yank my priviledges faster than the electrons can cool. I was irritated because you keep shifting the arguement around. I say trains can't beat the convenience of cars you say walking achieves everything I pointed out, I say walking sucks and you say cars are destroying small towns, I say they're not and you say I'm a car lover that just won't listen. That's pretty irritating. Try actually rebutting an arguement instead of piling on obfuscations.

And I stick by my judgement that you feel cars are the root of all evil, that doesn't make them evil themselves, inanimate object are only evil in bad horror movies we all know that, but you're constant harangueing against them shows that you certainly think there are a host of problems in the world that wouldn't be here without the car. While this is certainly true they aren't the problems you're complaining about.

206 posted on 12/20/2001 1:21:31 PM PST by discostu
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To: Publius
Interstate II can take advantage of rights-of-way that already exist -- both rail and highways.

I have no problem with high-speed rail service as long as it is run by private corporations. We've seen what happens when govt. runs a railroad. Since a large part of the dollar amounts involved in any rail project have to do with land acquisition and the enviro challenges to those purchases, a chunk of that problem is solved! The rights-of-way are there, they'll just have to make it impossible for folks to get onto the tracks. The results of a high speed railway accident are not pretty. Remember the one in Europe a few years ago?

As long as it supports itself, a la the airlines, I'm all for it. I love trains, it's just that Amtrak has such crappy service and the connections are awful. We thought about having our son come from Pittsburgh to Worcester, and it was going to take 17 hours including a 5 hour layover in Philly! That was nuts! It only takes 11 hours max to DRIVE there!

207 posted on 12/20/2001 1:21:44 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: balrog666
So in other words, you like the laws that say "no sewer plant next to my house," but not the ones that say how big your garage can be.

Everyone's got their tastes. I like traditional communities. Believe me, I get the message that you don't!

208 posted on 12/20/2001 1:22:23 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
I'd argue that Detroit is more shaped by developments over the last 40 years than by anyting that happened in the previous 260.

I agree. The development of suburbs has allowed half the population to escape the inner city. 50 years ago Detroit had 2 million people and now it has half that - deservedly in my view. Allowed a choice, nobody chooses the New Urban lifestyle except a few hippies.
209 posted on 12/20/2001 1:23:06 PM PST by balrog666
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To: Publius
So its about twice as expensive to take the train as it is to drive. And that's not even counting the cost of transportation when you arrive at your destination. Sorry, but I will vote with my pocketbook and drive.
210 posted on 12/20/2001 1:24:43 PM PST by TopDog2
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To: Publius
Suppose that restriction is placed on you by the private compacts and covenants of a neighborhood association, something that is extremely common in upscale neighborhoods?

Not a problem when you can move out of the neighborhood. How far from Portland do you have to go to escape the Metro Planning Program? I rest my case.
211 posted on 12/20/2001 1:25:15 PM PST by balrog666
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To: TopDog2
For me, the public transportation in Portland is free. There is a large Fareless Square that permits me to get to my hotel by trolley. Can't beat it.
212 posted on 12/20/2001 1:28:39 PM PST by Publius
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To: discostu
I have said, repeatedly, that I do not think that cars are the root of all evil. I've had, what, a total of 5 or 6 exchanges with you and yet you feel you know enough about me to say that you know that I secretly think they are the root of all evil.

And this is coming from a person who complained about "not categorizing someone based on 2 sentences" they wrote.

Now THAT'S pretty irritating. Try actually responding to what people say instead of knocking down strawman arguments and making a hypocrite of yourself.

213 posted on 12/20/2001 1:28:55 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Alberta's Child
Imagine, for example, what it would cost to drive from New York to Chicago if every car had to be monitored by the equivalent of an air traffic controller.

"Cadillac 2-November-50-heavy, right turn heading 280. Ford 22-Sierra-Hotel, accelerate immediately to 75 or left turn heading 265 for collision avoidance."

This would be unworkable. Not to mention the surveillance apoplexy that would accompany placing a radar transponder in each and every car and truck...

214 posted on 12/20/2001 1:29:52 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: Alberta's Child
So you actually live in Calgary huh? Flames have always been my favorite NHL team (I've got the hat to prove it, not just sucking up), always wanted to go up there and catch a game, of course I live 50 miles north of the Mexican border so Calgary is a very long way away (same timezone though). Mastercard actually stole my idea (using their brainwave readers) I wanted to spend a winter seeing hockey games in every NHL city, figured a home-and-home Oilers/ Flames would be the thing to shoot for up there. Of course if I don't get off the schnie and do this thing soon neither city is going to have an NHL team (you guys really gotta stop taxing things to death up there).

Scenery is really a matter of choice. I know a lot of people don't like the desert because it's all brown and dead. I love the desert (at least my chunk) because you can always see a mountain (Texas is mostly flat boring desert, that sucks). Trees are boring to me, big rock thrust out of the ground by terrible earthquakes and volcanoes, that kicks (and you actually feel like you're moving as you drawn nearer mountains and pass them, unlike flatland driving where the horizon never moves). Though I will agree that even though the terrain is pretty much the same Southern Canada got the better deal than Northern America.

215 posted on 12/20/2001 1:30:10 PM PST by discostu
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To: SuziQ
As long as it supports itself, a la the airlines, I'm all for it.

But the airlines don't support themselves. Go back to post #1 and click the link to the article I posted several days ago. It goes into detail about federal subsidies for air, water and road transportation.

216 posted on 12/20/2001 1:30:39 PM PST by Publius
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To: balrog666
Capitalism--in the form of housing appreciation rates in New Urbanist towns--is proving you wrong.
217 posted on 12/20/2001 1:31:00 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Alberta's Child
I've been on Calgary's C-Train, the light rail system, for those who have never been there. Portland copied the concept for MAX, and it's just as successful -- and crowded. You have a wonderful city, a Canadian version of Denver.
218 posted on 12/20/2001 1:34:17 PM PST by Publius
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To: cicero's_son
So in other words, you like the laws that say "no sewer plant next to my house," but not the ones that say how big your garage can be. Everyone's got their tastes. I like traditional communities. Believe me, I get the message that you don't!

There are some communities (mostly for historical reasons) that restrict everything down to the color paint you must use on your house. They have no place in this discussion. Neighborhood covenants are usually attached your deeds when you buy. If you don't like them, then don't sign them.

However, if I have owned 2 acres of prime real estate to build a retirement home and additional restrictions are placed on it some time later (for example, it must be subdivided and used to build twelve high density houses) then that is a "taking" under the law and my property has lost considerable value. Furthermore, the prospect that neighboring plots must also be corrupted from their original use after I have built is even worse.
219 posted on 12/20/2001 1:34:39 PM PST by balrog666
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To: cicero's_son
Capitalism--in the form of housing appreciation rates in New Urbanist towns--is proving you wrong.

When competing housing cannot be built, prices rise. I said, "When the choice is allowed".
220 posted on 12/20/2001 1:37:06 PM PST by balrog666
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