BUSH SPENDING BILL LARGEST EVER

Fox News ^ | January 11, 2001 | Staff

[exodus]

Here you go, carenot.

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• The GOP told me if I voted for Harry Browne all the Clinton era crimes would go unpunished.
• They told me that if I voted for Browne there would be increases in pork barrel spending.
• They told me that if I voted for Browne all of Clinton's last minute executive orders would be locked in.
  They told me that if I voted for Browne our military would continue to be underfunded.
• They told me that if I voted for Browne I could forget about seeing a school voucher plan.
• They told me that if I voted for Browne I'd never see our troops out of that Balkan quagmire.

Well, damned if they weren't right.
I did vote for Harry Browne,
and every single one of those predictions
has come true.

22 Posted on 07/31/2001 07:25:33 PDT by Uncle Fud

[carenot]

Thanks, BTTT.

[WhiteGuy]

The increases in spending have been greatly exaggerated! The Education Bill combined with increased Defense spending makes it look big! We're talking about and increase of 4% on Education, and it is badly needed. The problem is that it only BEGINS to address the many problems of our Education System!

I'm sorry, I don't agree that the solution to the pathetic government school system is to reward them with more tax dollars. 4%? Only 4%? in reality it is BILLIONS.

Many people expect "W" to wave a magic wand, and fixe everything.

Your statement is true, however my point is that w is fixing nothing.

The reality is that thanks to the turncoat Jeffords- the Republicans no longer control the Senate! That is an obstical to overcome! We should elect a Republican majority to BOTH houses, and then expect action!

The republicans have been on a spending binge when thay should be cutting drastically and cutting taxes as well. This would have the desired effect to pull the economy out of recession. The president is a republican, yet his EO's have created a larger, more intrusive government, and infringed on the most fundamental rights as bestowed upon us by our creator.

What are you calling Pork Barrel?

Take a look at your copy of the Constitution, where is it written that the tax paying citizens of the USA, have an obligation and duty to fund the operations of foreign nations, farmers, the lazy, the corrupt, or even the airlines for that matter? I believe it is wrong. It was wrong when the dems were in charge, and it's wrong now.

What choice do we as a nation have but to stop the Terrorists? Should we wait for the Terrorists to detonate a Tactical Nuke in New York, or Los Angeles? What is your solution?

Your question has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but I will be happy to answer.

If we are indeed serious about "stopping terrorists", I would argue for massive bombing, including nuclear, of all nations which have sponsored terrorism. Even if it means bombing our "friends". I also believe that we should focus all our military efforts on the protection of OUR nation, let all those other countries kill each other off, it;s none of our business. If we focused on our defense we would have more than enough money for the job.

I take issue with your assertion that the Republicans have the same masters as the Dimocrats. Do the Republicans pander to the Unions? Gay and Lesbian Activists? Racial Groups and Leaders? I thought Republicans were long accused of being the "Party of Business." Any ideas?

Both "parties" worship at the same altar. CASH

our elected "representatives" are for sale to the highest bidder. Whether that money comes from the nea or Raytheon, or china, there is an expected "ROI".

[Beenliedto]

Har. Har. Funny about the first 900 times.

Well, you know the old saying: "If 900 pepole call you a cow, you're probably not a duck."

900, huh?? We must be on to something here!!

[dead]

Unfortunately, those 900 other posters argued points with me where I was subsequently proven right beyond the shadow of a doubt. 100% of the time!

As I said, idiots abound.

[Beenliedto]

Unfortunately, those 900 other posters argued points with me where I was subsequently proven right beyond the shadow of a doubt. 100% of the time!

Why, hell, man... you're better'n Rush!!!

[carenot]

"Bush said he also plans to double spending next year on brownfields cleanup. Christie Whitman, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, said Bush's 2003 budget proposal will seek $102 million more than the $98 million Congress appropriated this year."

How is this a baby step?

I say it is a giant step in the wrong direction.

But not to worry, Bush promised over a week ago to help the Klamuth farmers. Help is on the way!

Indeed.

[Uncle Bill]

Taking Up Where Debate Left Off, Bush Assails Gore on Spending

RON PAUL: "Uncontrolled Spending Threatens Our Liberty"

Compassionate Conservatism Means Big Government

[Uncle Bill]

The Empire Strikes Back: Return of Tax & Spend

Return of? LOL.

[carenot]

We hear Congress talk about smaller government, but the size of the federal budget increases each year. Huge amounts of federal spending could be eliminated if Congress adhered to the limited enumerated powers listed in the Constitution.

Thanks for the link, Uncle. I had missed it before.

We must remember this was before "the war on terror" and Bush must increase spending everywhere to fight it.

A lot of the increased military spending goes to Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.

I am so glad Bush is our President, I guess I will stay home next time.

I can not see how Gore would or could do any worse or expand Government spending more than GW has done.

[Inspector Harry Callahan]

Glad you were able to find that quote. I had no idea how to track it down. You must have had it saved to disk.

[carenot]

Karen P. Hughes, Mr. Bush's communications director, said Mr. Gore had a shown a pattern of "embellishment" that could haunt him in the White House. "In a meeting with a foreign leader, the president of the United States is representing our country," she said. "The credibility of our country is on the line and the president of the United States in front of a world leader can't just make things up."

I agree with Karen. Bush's credibility IS on the line.

Well, not really. He was lost any credibility he ever had.

[Aristophanes]

This is the beginnig of real reform in the Educational System. It has taken us 42 years to get where we are now. It will take a while to fix it! That's reality bud!

You're exactly right! When we've gone this far down the wrong road it would be DISASTROUS if we slowed down or even stopped! These people who want to roll-back the federal govt. just don't understand the workings of advanced politics like you 'n me, bud. / SARCASM

Your naivete' made me smile. I guess that's worth something.

[Aristophanes]

Our government is run by 2 political crime syndicates called the Republicans and Democrats. Soon all the people will fully realize this.

You're an incurable optimist if you think the people will ever wake up to this scam. Like the man said above, the train of tyranny will have rolled over their bodies and they will yell "Fanatic!" at you with their last dying breath.

[VinnyTex]

Uncle Bill is a crackpot and you're right up there with LaBellDame Bimboitis...

Facts are facts, and the facts are, the budget Bush just proposed is smaller as a percentage of the economy than any budget Reagan ever proposed.

Of course I'm sure you know that close to 2/3rds of the budget is on auto pilot. Entitlement programs. The President only looks at discretionary spending. And right now government spending as a percentage of the economy is around 18 percent. Up from 17 percent due to the war. But then again, you always knew this... LOL You, Uncle Bill, RLK, and of course, LaBellDame Bimboitis.

[VinnyTex]

Of course you always knew that 2/3ds of the budget is on auto pilot did ya there Uncle Bill. Entitlement programs. The Budget always gets bigger thanks in part to medical technology. Old people live longer and they collect more SS, Medicare and various other benefits...

The way to judge the budget is to look at its size as a percentage of the economy.

[exodus]

To: exodus, carenot
Glad you were able to find that quote.
I had no idea how to track it down.
You must have had it saved to disk.
# 111 by Inspector Harry Callahan
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I did save it to disk, Inspector,
from your profile page.

You're one of my heros.

[chouli]

And if anyone thinks Texas education is so great ask any Texas teacher about that silly test.

[carenot]

Hi, Vinny.

Please lump me with the rest of the crackpots.

Bush said he also plans to double spending next year on brownfields cleanup. Christie Whitman, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, said Bush's 2003 budget proposal will seek $102 million more than the $98 million Congress appropriated this year.
After raising the spending level to $200 million, Whitman said, the administration may propose spending $250 million in fiscal 2004.

Wonder when he is going to let the Klamuth farmers have water so they can cleanup their brownfields?

[VinnyTex]

Look you crackpot, I don't care what Bush says about increasing spending. . The idiots posting on this thread don't understand basic budgeting.

Before the war, Bush budgets called for bringing down spending to 15 percent of GDP a level we haven't seen since the 1950s.

He's wants to spend money on stuff I don't agree with, but he's cutting spending on other items.

As long as we have entitlement programs spending is going to increase every year. Now the idea is to grow the economy and make the pie bigger so spending as a percentage of the economy keeps shrinking. Facts are facts and those are the facts.