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6 Shot at Grundy, VA school

Posted on 01/16/2002 10:37:35 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Dan from Michigan
Do I hear HATE CRIME?
381 posted on 01/17/2002 6:46:11 AM PST by Puppage
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To: Sally'sConcerns
So now you're hiding behind the New Testament!

Who's hiding?

Funny, I've never heard where Jesus advocated macabre humour regarding people dying. I am so pleased the families will be able to laugh at the loss of their loved ones!

"Humor is odd, grotesque and wild", as a famous Dean of St. Patrick's Cathedral once said. A number of other great wits - Twain, Mencken and Thurber, to name but three - have noted that the core of humor is tragedy.

A question for you, please. When you witness to others, do you not pray in front of the one's you are witnessing to?

I don't discuss my religious practices in this forum. I don't consider myself either qualified or worthy to discuss the religious practices of other Christians; even if I were, the fact that they are Christians so far outweighs quibbles about points of dogma that I won't do it.

However, I will not tolerate public pronouncements of sanctimony being used as a means of debate. Pray wherever you wish; but when you use 'prayer' as an ulterior mens of gaining a point, don't expect to be unchallenged. This is a forum, not a temple.

382 posted on 01/17/2002 7:14:16 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: EricOKC
Dude, you are so wrong. Foreigners and Taliban prisoners are not US Citizens.

US Citizens, naturalized and deserving of citizenship by study, peer support, and judgment by the community that he will support and add to, not hate and detract, this country and its culture -- THEY ARE THE PEOPLE DESERVING OF THE LEGACY OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

This creep was, and is, an America-hating, white-hating, petty, third-world dirtbag.

Equate them with real Americans and you give away the entire farm.

9-11 happened PRECISELY because of the boneheaded logic that every homo sapiens drawing a breath deserves the rights and privileges of American citizenship.

And that logic is flawed!

If what you say is true, then why have borders to America? Why have a naturalization process? Why have an oath of citizenship? Why void someone's citizenship if he serves in the military of another country? Why not just declare every third-world idiot like this guy an American citizen, if he, by virtue of breathing, deserves all such rights?

Why not return rifles and grenade launchers to the Taliban detainees in Guantanamo? Don't THEY have an inalienable right to defend themselves? Doesn't the Second Amendment apply to them, too?

What, pray tell, is in your drinking water?

Can you not see that your point of view is the one espoused by the America-loathing left, its lawyers, its judges, its political science professors, its newscasters, its print journalists, etc.,etc.

Granting, automatically, Jeffersonian rights to every human being who breathes is absolutely the quickest way to undo the United States that anyone could ever invent.

It is something that will get you an A on your term paper in junior high school from Mr. Harry the Hippie History teacher, but, applied to the reality of life on earth, it is a way for our country and our people to commit rapid, national suicide.

383 posted on 01/17/2002 7:14:57 AM PST by caddie
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To: drjimmy
"That's why both lists are silly. Anyone against Clinton is on his list because they were against Clinton. Anyone for Clinton is on his list because they were just about (it is claimed) to blow the lid off of a Clinton scandal. "

Why is that silly?

Do you have no idea who Bill Clinton is?

He grew up in HOT SPRINGS, Arkansas with his Uncle who headed the Dixie mafia.

Do you understand what that means? Just that connection alone would explain some of the "hits" his enemies or potential"squealers" experienced.

Add to that criminal background the alliance with the Marxist/Maoists/Stalinists who - as Whitaker Chambers revealed in his blockboster of the century book: "Witness" - ARE KILLERS - plus Clinton's apparent "in" with the Soviet KGB during the Vietnam war as an antiwar protestor turned guest of the Soviets and their Communist block nations during that era - AND his involvement with the CIA during the Mena operation - and Clinton had all the necessary contacts for "help" when he/she needed them. Throw in an absence of morals (see the liberal Mort Sahl's recent evaluation of Clinton posted on these boards) - and the Clinton death list is not "silly" in the least.

When you can show similar attributes/history of President Bush - then we can talk about the Bush list - which is so silly it is ridiculous.

Finally - just one death during Clintonista hell - that of one Barbara Alice Wise - investigated with integrity would be enough to uncover the true evil of what occupied the highest realm of our government for those eight long years. Will that happen? Sadly, apprently, no.

384 posted on 01/17/2002 7:16:51 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Lazamataz
This is the one that folds into a credit card sized package for easy concealment in your wallet, right?
385 posted on 01/17/2002 7:35:29 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Did anyone else see the shooter's classmate interviewed by Katie Couric this morning? He was one of the students that subdued the Nutty Nigerian and... he said that when he heard the shots, he helped clear the student out of his classroom and then went to his car and got his own pistol.. Katie immediately leaped in to emphasize that he had a law-enforcement background, as did one of the other law students who assisted in handcuffing the shooter. It seems there was more than a "tackle" involved, though the media seems loathe to admit it. That interviewee (I can't recall his name right now) was one big ol' boy, too - he looked like he could've stopped a few rounds of .380 and it would've only made him angry.

Has the "gun used to halt shooting" story spread very far? That was the first I'd heard of it.

387 posted on 01/17/2002 8:27:22 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: Mudboy Slim
Mud, here's another take on the shooting, from a local reporter with the Roanoke Times. The link is: http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story124482.html. Seems this Peter O, who was naturalized as a citizen in 1989, was looked upon as more than a little strange by the student body. Can we say paranoid? In addition to his flunking out of the school for the second time, he had recently been left by his wife, who took their 4 children (wise woman!).

As for the lefties trying to pin this on "right wing operatives", I will quote Mr O's outlook on his troubles. Spoken like a true victim of society:

According to Brewer, Odighizuwa said: "You people in America are so wealthy. You have so much. You have the Statue of Liberty standing there saying bring me your tired and your hungry and poor. I am a poor man, but no one will help me. No one will help me feed my children."

388 posted on 01/17/2002 9:10:43 AM PST by Darnright
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To: EricOKC
Turns out this guy was a NATURALIZED US CITIZEN so all of that discussion is sorta moot.
389 posted on 01/17/2002 9:11:21 AM PST by John H K
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To: Jhensy
Thanks for pasting in those delusional posts from DU. And thanks too for your accompanying remarks. I needed a good laugh.
391 posted on 01/17/2002 9:50:00 AM PST by Amore
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
My husband is a graduate from ASL, the law school in Grundy Va. and it is a private and new law school. It is a GREAT place to live and study law. We are from KY and lived 3 years in Grundy, my husband knew the people who were shot and the man who done the shooting. If we had it to do over again, we would choose ASL for the great and highly quified staff and the people that live in that little town. You cannot judge a place because one man from another country thought that the USA owed him a Law degree because he came here to live.
392 posted on 02/03/2003 1:32:04 PM PST by gradfromASL
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