Posted on 01/22/2002 12:21:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
My guess? Why, the IDF will drop a few on the Great Toweled-One by the end of the day January 30, 2002 after a few more bloody Hamas/Fatah attacks on soft targets push Tel Aviv over the edge.
Your 'wager'?? (no cash involved)
Okay, I'm in the pool. February 12, 2002.
You unwisely assume that a body will be found.
My prediction: Yasser becomes an unperson in early March.
Israel has new leaders voted in every few years. The Palestinians have been subjegated to Yasser's whims for decades.
In reaction the Europeans and middle-easterners and a few slugs in this nation lament Israel's government and laud the Palestinian's... Yasser.
If those who support Yasser really mean what they seem to be saying, they're living under the wrong systems of governance. They need to move to a place that has a dictator who perpetrates terrorism against his own people as well as his neighbors.
Come on folks, why not live under the policies and government of the man you support?
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My quess: Late Friday, Feb 1, 2002. (Friday cause that will be when media goes home)
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He's discredited around much of the world, and he's ugly.
He's widely perceived as being the one who walked away from a peace deal that was too generous to him.
If there was any reason to think that he'd be replaced by somebody more moderate who could deliver on his promises, that would be one thing. But he wouldn't be, which is why they won't kill him.
2). This attack will cause an uproar in the Arab world. Iraq, Lebanon and Syria will mobilize.
3). Israel will mobilize in return and will launch pre-emptive attacks at Iraqi tanks that are in Syria and Lebanon and Iraqi scuds and decoys.
4). Iraq, and Syria invade the Golan heights and through Jordan in the West Bank area, arming the populace as they go, preceded by remaining scud attacks, including chemical weapons sent by rogue Iraqi commanders. Lebanon begins a southward push that is only designed to draw off forces. Terrorist attacks using chemical weapons used in market squares. Israel shows restraint concerning weapons of mass destruction, but deploys troops ruthlessly to defend Israel and kill all invaders. Due to Palistinian support of the invasion, many thousands of Palistinians are killed in the first week alongside their Iraqi and Syrian allies.
5). The world shows outrage at Iraq and Syria for the use of chemical weapons and the world opinion is in Israel's favor for the first time in an undeniable way.
6). Iraq uses radioactive waste in SCUD attacks and terror attacks in Jerusalem. Some form of chemical attack is used and kills hundreds in full view of television cameras.
7). Baghdad is nuked with a 5+ megaton device. Saddam probably killed. World freaks out, demands peace in the middle east, Israel points out, less people died in Baghdad than in the combined attacks of Iraq. Remaining Iraqi form coalition government allied to finish the invasion of Israel.
8). Joint American/European Force arrives 3 weeks after first attacks, lands at Haifa. Syrian troop from Golan Heights and LEbanese troops attacked by a two pronged attack by American/European forces. Israeli forces still respond to internal attacks, while additional American forces attack Iraq from the seas. Arabs living in America face severe persecution from citizens. All sleeper terror cells start causing havoc in the parks, shopping malls, and bus stations. Many Arabs choose to leave. Those remaining are considered criminals and face persecution and occaasional internment.
9). Lebanese forces crumble under intense American air power and resort to terorist type attacks, similar to Japanese last stand defenses in WWII Island campaigns. American/European forces cross the Golan Heights and enter Syria.
10). Nuclear device exploded in prominent European city and 2 American cities, one of which is Wshington D.C. President probably killed, American Government brought to it's knees logistically. All pity or remorse for Arabs is lost. All Arabs in US are attacked by vigilante groups, police do little to stop this. Remaining Americans take to arms, fill positions in newly called draft in 1 week.
11). War continues for 4 more months, with all major Syrian city infrastructure destroyed. Lebanon Cities invaded from Beirut by American/European/Turkish forces. Troops enter Baghdad ruins in symbolic act, invasion of Iraq from the Persian Gulf seizes major oil terminals in the east, while Turkish forces secure the north. Turkish forces cause much dissent with their additional attempts to eliminate Kurdish forces hostile to Turkey.
12). Since more than 75% of the Palistinians picked up arms and committed attacks from school yards and personal homes against Israeli forces, population of Palistinians is reduced by 60% or more. Syria cannot feed their people. Lebanon refugees flood Iraq and Turkey. Iraq is acountry without a leader, civil or otherwise. Millions dead. Arab nations threaten to cut west off from oil if attack momentum not stopped. West responds with threats against Saudi oil if promise kept. Saudis lighten up tone of threat, west responds with cessation of attack. World sees lack of advancing armies for the first time in 5 months since war started by Arab terrorists. Over 100,000,000 dead worldwide. World breathes sigh of relief.
13). Due to power vaccuum in US because of Nuclear attack, Europe must step forward to take world leader role. European leader starts re-building campaign putting survivors back to work. Small groups commit terror attacks in Israel and the world. European leader appears to have all best interests at heart, the world wants peace. Due to world pressure, Israel signs a peace treaty with the European lader to defend Israel against all foreign armies because Israel has almost no Army left and hawks demand protectionagainst all remaining Muslim countries like Egypt/Sudan/Libya and the southern republics of the former Soviet Union. Welcome to the Anti-Christ!
It would be great if Turkey ends up owning some Iraqi and/or Saudi oil fields
I believe Bible prophesy which says there will be world attention given to a city, Babylon, and that city is respected by the world, it is destroyed in an hour and the world mourns. Babylon is being rebuilt now by Saddam, but who cares about Babylon?
Some believe that this Babylon will become the center of the one world religion known as THE WHORE OF BABYLON, that all ecumenical worship will be headed there. I dunno.
In order for this BAbylon to have prominence, especially after an ecumenical religion, then Saddamhas to go, and all opposition to religious fighting has to end, also, and that means a major war, major death, and a world shift in thinking about religion and peace.
I am also a Former Marine and still think like one almost, and I follow politics like all the rest of you. I just have a scenario in my head. I left out many things like world terrorism in the Philippines, Malaysia, India to make up the 100,000,000 figure, but I believe the next major Mid-East war will be about Islam and Israel, and I have been saying it for 12 years among friends. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to guess that, though! :-)
i dont doubt the Golan is formidable, it is also historically Syrian, they want it, and it is the high ground, and might be the first chemical attack. With Lebanon coming down from the north, Israel would be stretched to defend the north and east in combat, the south from Egypt who only has to rattle sabers.
I do admit I left out Jordan, but then again, when did they ever show any courage? They MIGHT come in through the west bank, but not with armour. Too slow, too noticable on buildup. Armour could follow if desired.
Either way, I think Israel will be victorious, but the losses will be phenominal on the Arab sides, seeing they could play the human wave theory here.
Arafat's heir will be nastier. I have no doubts that Israel will defend itself well, but the day after Israel were to kill Arafat, they would basically be on a war footing permanently, even more so than they are now.
My prediction is that Israel is getting close though. One more major terrorist attack against the west, (US or Europe, not Israel) will be Arafat's doom. Israel will retaliate with lethal force against Arafat within a week after the first even minor terrorist event in Israel.
I don't think they will do the deed until then however.
Your version of the future is as good as anyone else's. Mine is different: I have Israel finally getting terminally irritated and wiping out Baghdad, Damascus and Ryadh with a surprise series of atomic attacks. They'll also make dust of the PA w/o atomics. Cairo might be irradiated also. It's a guess.
January 23, 1950, The Israeli Knesset approved a resolution proclaiming Jerusalem the capital of Israel ...
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/010123onthisday.html
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Now fast forward 49 years [or seven 'sevens'] to January 23, 1999
GOTCHA! The Big One That Didn't Get Away Robotic telescope captures visible light from a powerful gamma-ray burst
Jan 27, 1999: For the first time, scientists have witnessed the visible light emitted at the same time as a gamma-ray burst, a mysterious explosion in the far reaches of the universe…
…This particular burst had the power of nearly ten million billion suns, and the light grew so bright that anyone gazing at the night sky could have seen it using only a pair of binoculars. The chances were slim, however, that someone would be looking at that exact point in the sky at 4:47 a.m. EST, on Jan. 23. But thanks to the use of two satellites, a unique ground-based telescope, and the Internet, scientists around the world were able to pinpoint the location of the burst, and to monitor it from start to finish…
… Feb 10, 1999: Two weeks ago one of the most powerful cosmic explosions ever recorded bathed the earth in gamma rays. The gamma-ray burst -- called GRB990123 -- was so intense that its visible light could have been seen through common binoculars. Since then the optical counterpart to GRB990123 has faded until it is 4 million times dimmer that it was during its peak…
…Never before have scientists been able to watch the visible light during a gamma-ray burst. Ever since the bursts were first discovered in 1967, scientists have been eager to gather more data about these elusive, cataclysmic explosions.
Links at:
Autopsy of a Cosmic Explosion - scientists analyze what occurs during a gamma-ray burst.
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast26mar99_1.htm
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ABCNEWS.com : Gamma-Ray Burst Amazes
... WASHINGTON, March 25 — The first gamma-ray burst that astronomers got to watch "live" was the biggest explosion ever seen, second only to the Big Bang that ...
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/gammaburst990325.html
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Who stepped up to the plate in January of 1999?
January 22, 1999 King Hussein drops heir
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_260000/260875.stm
January 25, 1999 Hussein names son as heir
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_262000/262604.stm
Febuary 7, 1999 Abdullah sworn in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle%5Feast/newsid%5F274000/274302.stm
Feb 10, 1999: Yesterday astronomers released a new Hubble photograph of the gamma-ray burst's fading optical counterpart. The relic fireball appears to be embedded in a faint, irregular galaxy.
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast10feb99_1.htm
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Daniel 9
24 "Seventy `sevens´ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven `sevens,´ and sixty-two `sevens.´ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.
26 After the sixty-two `sevens,´ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
BTW, my guess on Arafat, he goes down in a Royal Jordanian helicopter leaving Israel. Of course Israel will be blamed. Date??
Daniel 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
Hmmm?
AMMAN, Jordan (Nov. 9, 2000) -- Jordan's King Abdullah ll, in a message to 450 delegates attending today's opening session of the first Global Summit on Peace through Tourism, said "the time is now for the entire world to hear your message of peace and reconciliation echo loud" at a time "when we are being reminded by persistent images of painful suffering that justice delayed is tantamount to its denial."
The king said in a written statement delivered by Prime Minister Ali Abu Ragheb that "the dove of peace" is looking for refuge from the "unfulfilled promises of peace," adding that the current turbulence in the region threatens to throw the Middle East "back into the abyss."
He said the summit message "challenges the bitter reality of hatred and builds bridges, heals wounds, and advocates a better and safer future." The king said he was confident the Amman Declaration on Peace through Tourism, to be issued at the conclusion of the Global Summit tomorrow, will reflect positive expectations for peace and "live up to the vision of the future that we all aspire to realize."
The king, Royal Patron of the Global Summit, told the travel and tourism leaders and tourism ministers from 60 countries that "an appropriate political and economic framework" with agreement by countries to co-exist peacefully is a pre-requisite for promoting understanding, trust and goodwill around the world. He called for a "singular code of conduct" based on "effective governance, democratic accountability, and private enterprise."
He said that countries viewing tourism as a means of international cooperation in addition to an economic growth vehicle would reach tourism's full potential. Private sector investment, management and operations are essential for economic development, the king said.
Jordan has based its tourism strategy on cooperation regionally and beyond. "Tourism and travel are global by definition and by nature," the king said, "and cannot thrive in any other alternative environment." He said that the Jordan model can become "a pillar in the peace building structure of the Middle East."
Prime Minister Abu Ragheb was introduced by Jordan's Minister of Tourism and Antiquities Akel Biltaji who said summit delegates committed to the "safety, comfort, and movement of people" through tourism were well positioned to fulfill the late King Hussein's commitment to peace for the current and future generations.
Harvey Golub, chairman and CEO of summit title sponsor American Express, said, "We know the benefits our industry brings to a country. We know that travel and tourism does contribute to both economic development and personal understanding, two conditions that are prerequisites to maintaining peace. Once a cycle of conflict is ended, stability is needed -- the stability of governments, economies and personal intentions that will hopefully make the recurrence of war less likely. And those are conditions travel and tourism can impact."
He went on to explain his strong feelings about what travel can do to help sustain a state of peace. "The most important lesson travel can teach us is not about our differences, but about our similarities...whenever and wherever I go, I find this belief gets reinforced time and time again. Helping people come to this realization on their own is the first step toward tolerance."...
What a peace loving Arab this Abdullah II is!
Daniel 8:25 ...and by peace shall destroy many...
Oops, never mind.
Oh,I give him less than thirty days,and he will be killed by an ARAB.
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