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GAY PRO-LIFE LEADERS ARRESTED AT NATIONAL PRO-LIFE MARCH
www.PLAGAL.org ^ | Jan 22, 2002 | PLAGAL

Posted on 01/23/2002 6:22:00 AM PST by helmsman

Washington, D.C. January 22, 2002. Leaders of the Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians (PLAGAL) were arrested today at the 29th annual March for Life. The arrests were conducted by the United States Park Police by direct orders of Miss Nellie Gray the March for Life Leader and holder of the permit, according to the Park Police.

PLAGAL President Cecilia Brown and Vice-President Eric Jurek were at the March for Life for the sole purpose protesting the 1973 Supreme Court decision which legalized abortion-on-demand. They were simply carrying the PLAGAL Banner -- which states the organization's name and "Human Rights Start When Human Life Begins." Brown, Jurek, and the rest of the PLAGAL delegation were approached by the officers and ordered to remove the offending sign. Consistent with their deeply held pro-life convictions, they refused. Police back-up arrived at the scene. At that time, though not resisting arrest, Brown and Jurek were wrestled to the ground and dragged to an area away from the crowds were they were handcuffed and taken away.

"How can Miss Gray claim to stand for the dignity of all human life while at the same time denying gays and lesbians our dignity in openly defending the rights of all human beings to life?" asked PLAGAL Vice-President, Ms. B.A. Keener. She then went on to comment, "Most every group that attends the March for Life openly identifies itself with signs and banners -- be they Feminists, Democrats, Catholics, etc. It seems that PLAGAL has been targeted by the leadership of the March for Life simply because of their sexual orientation. PLAGAL and its leaders have a long and solid history in pro-life activism."

"Nellie Gray, in a meeting a few years ago, stated PLAGAL may participate in the March for Life so long as we do not identify ourselves as lesbians and gays," stated Moses Remedios, VP for Media Relations. "That's as offensive as telling an African American, 'you can ride on the bus, but just sit in the back.'"

Prior to the arrest Brown stated, "PLAGAL participates in the March because we believe in positive, life-affirming alternatives to the tragedy of abortion. To say that we have no place for open participation in the pro-life movement is not only counter-productive, but it simply wrong." She then went on to say, "We urge Miss Gray to set aside her personal biases, and "FREE THE MARCH" for Life, by allowing all peaceful, pro-life groups to stand in solidarity with women and the unborn."

We are appalled that Miss Gray is incapable of setting aside her personal sentiments against gays and lesbians, thus prohibiting, with the use of police force, our open participation in the pro-life movement," stated Ms. Keener who went on to say, "By this malevolent act and to her detriment, Miss Gray has moved the focus of the March for Life away from the protection of the unborn -- where it belongs -- to the participation of lesbians and gays."

All those wishing to express their disgust with the March for Life for this malicious and divisive act of exclusion are encouraged to contact the March for Life at info@marchforlife.org. For pictures and the latest information on this developing story please visit our website at http://www.plagal.org.


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To: Dimensio
I don't have trouble with you believing 1 or 3 -- that's your decision. I don't agree with 1 or 3 however. In either case, I don't have a problem with 2 -- you are free to share you beliefs with others if you choose.

So, why do you always jump in? Is it just your pedantic nature?

Just curious. Not meaning to imply anything.

Shalom.

141 posted on 01/23/2002 10:17:59 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Fee
Ahhh... but not so fast!!! Liberals will abort all children who are NOT gay. They will have to do the politically correct thing and kill the normal babies.

Also, did you know that there is a genetic link between crime and race? Does this excuse someone of his/her crimes? People are capable of making their own decisions whether they are "genetically predisposed" to doing something or not.

142 posted on 01/23/2002 10:23:31 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: Arthur McGowan; helmsman; hillsborofox; EODGUY; Khepera; proud2bRC
OK, the gauntlet is thrown down. The first three addressees refuse to answer one question:

Should "Klansmen for Life" be permitted? How about "Rapists for Life?" Maybe "Islamic Suicide Bombers for Life?"

There are people I don't want to be associated with. Not every enemy of my enemy is my friend. If I organize a rally it is not incumbent upon me to welcome everyone who claims they want to support my view.

Arthur, helmsman, hills, can you say that Nellie should welcome "Klansmen for Life" if they ask?

Shalom.

143 posted on 01/23/2002 10:23:55 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
"I don't have trouble with you believing 1 or 3 -- that's your decision. I don't agree with 1 or 3 however. In either case, I don't have a problem with 2 -- you are free to share you beliefs with others if you choose."

So, why do you always jump in? Is it just your pedantic nature?

Just curious. Not meaning to imply anything.


Pedantism usually, and I try to point out that stereotypes don't hold (not every homosexual is a self-obsessed sociopath with AIDS, as some FReepers insist). I do try to get at the root of people's beliefs and sometimes it involves pointing out that their beliefs are based on logical fallacies or untrue generalizations.

In this thread it's amusing to see how many are quick to assert that a group of homosexual pro-lifers must have an alterior motive because it's just impossible for homosexuals to care about anything but themselves and their sex lives. It also bothers me a bit, because I would hope that pro-lifers were so simply because they believed that human life should be protected and that human life begins in the womb -- not because it's just one of the many rules that they, as Christians, are supposed to follow and as such only other "Christians" are allowed to be in their little club.
144 posted on 01/23/2002 10:27:59 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Ahhh... but not so fast!!! Liberals will abort all children who are NOT gay. They will have to do the politically correct thing and kill the normal babies.

This is one of those stupid generalizations to which I referred earlier.
145 posted on 01/23/2002 10:28:44 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
In this thread it's amusing to see how many are quick to assert that a group of homosexual pro-lifers must have an alterior motive because it's just impossible for homosexuals to care about anything but themselves and their sex lives.

Actually, I believe it is an ulterior motive because I would expect them to put their signs away if they thought their signs were offensive.

But the sign was, evidently, the important part, not saving the lives of the unborn.

Shalom.

146 posted on 01/23/2002 10:38:43 AM PST by ArGee
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To: helmsman
These people take their hatred of homosexuals to absurd levels. There's no comparing homosexuality and abortion. We could use all the pro-life people we can get.
147 posted on 01/23/2002 10:39:46 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: EODGUY
I've seen (and heard) a singing fish.:)

Well, I've seen a horse fly and I've seen a rubber band, but never a singing fish... : )
148 posted on 01/23/2002 10:40:22 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: ArGee
Actually, I believe it is an ulterior motive because I would expect them to put their signs away if they thought their signs were offensive.

But the sign was, evidently, the important part, not saving the lives of the unborn.


I'm not referring to this specific event. I'm referring to the attitude of some in this thread (not many) of implying that homosexuals uniting for or against any issue isn't really about that issue but is about their sexuality and forcing it down everyone's throat.

Believe it or not, not every homosexual's life revolves around their sexual orientation, even if they do make something of a point of it.
149 posted on 01/23/2002 10:41:14 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: ArGee
As I stated in previous posts, ArGee, if the members of Plagal were focused on showing their support for and belief in the Pro-Life movement, why would they make these "sincerest beliefs" secondary to being able to identify themselves by their sexual orientation?

Although other posters may not see this as a blatant "agenda based" decision, what else could it be?

150 posted on 01/23/2002 10:41:31 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Dimensio
This is one of those stupid generalizations to which I referred earlier.

In order to help Oh Great Judge Of Stupidity (Dimensio) I obviously should have posted what I was responding to. Here ya go:

"Gay proponents claim that being gay is genetic, sooner or later some scientist is going to "prove" the gene exists. There lies the trap. What is going to prevent parents aborting fetuses after a genetic screening showing it may be "gay"?? Aborting fetuses because it is "gay" will not sit well..."

I apologize if things were made to difficult for you to understand by my lack of full content. I'll try to help you out more in the future...

151 posted on 01/23/2002 10:42:05 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: helmsman
Your source is suspect!
Because they're gay? Is that the only reason they are automatically suspect?
Because the same group that (1) knew she didn’t want them to march under their own banner, and who (2) did march under it anyway, (3) knowing that in the past she has asked to have them removed when it happens, have now (4) written an inflammatory press release about events they clearly incited.

One does not often assign a great deal of credibility to an advocacy group's report on a conflict they went out and intentionally incited.

patent  +AMDG

152 posted on 01/23/2002 10:42:21 AM PST by patent
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To: ArGee
"Khepera for life" can I come?

How about Serial Killers for life?
Their motto is "If they ain't borned then I can't do my job"

154 posted on 01/23/2002 10:43:52 AM PST by Khepera
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To: ArGee
can you say that Nellie should welcome "Klansmen for Life" if they ask?

Good question.

No one is stopping the Pro-life Gays from having their own rallies. Why don't they? If they really believe in the pro-life movement. And if they do, how come they aren't critcizing the press for not covering the rallies? I've never heard of the group before.

155 posted on 01/23/2002 10:44:45 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: madprof98
Anybody who wants to know why the pro-life movement is held in such deep suspicion by most mainstream Americans--including many who oppose abortion--should read this thread. It's all here: the parochialism, the paranoia, and the hatred of those who are different.

Which is the exact antithesis of the NARAL crowd, I can assure you [insert whoopie cushion noise here]. I was actually thrown out of a NARAL fund raising event in the 80s, solely because NARAL didn't approve of my employer being a religious radio station. I was part of the news team, I was carrying press credentials at the time, and had spoken with the local NARAL chapter president to obtain permission to attend/cover the event well in advance. That night, I was met at the door by her, and one of her thugs, and was told (by the chapter president) that I was not permitted inside without an escort (the thug). Said thug then refused to allow me past the lobby, and not-so-gently advised me that I had all the coverage I needed, and had stayed long enough. All the local network affiliates, newspapers, and and major media outlets were there for the duration of the event (which went on another two hours). I was the only member of the press thrown out - and after less than five minutes. Who was being paranoid that night?

Since I couldn't report on the event itself, I changed the focus of my coverage, using the "eviction" angle of the story. It got the attention of one of the international news wires, who published my version of the entire event later that week :). I still have the audio feed from the national coverage on tape somewhere, as well as the printout from the national newswire.

Besides, why shouldn't we of the moral high ground be paranoid? After all, our opponents are only mild-mannered advocates of a culture of death :)

156 posted on 01/23/2002 10:46:47 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
In order to help Oh Great Judge Of Stupidity (Dimensio) I obviously should have posted what I was responding to. Here ya go:

Ah, yes, and because some believe that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, when it is discovered liberals will advocating aborting any non-homosexual or "normal" fetus. A logical conclusion, I guess...
157 posted on 01/23/2002 10:47:46 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: ArGee
OK, the gauntlet is thrown down. The first three addressees refuse to answer one question: Should "Klansmen for Life" be permitted? How about "Rapists for Life?" Maybe "Islamic Suicide Bombers for Life?"

Alright, Sir ArGee, I will pick up your gauntlet. Gay people harm no one by behaving in a homosexual manner and are, therefore, not on a par with rapists or people from the Koo Koo Klan. Even for many religious Jews and Christians, the sin of homosexuality does not begin to compare with sexual violation or outward racism. If homosexuality is a sin, it is a sin of weak flesh, not of hate or violence.

158 posted on 01/23/2002 10:56:42 AM PST by helmsman
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To: Dimensio
Believe it or not, not every homosexual's life revolves around their sexual orientation, even if they do make something of a point of it.

Of course it does. Otherwise they would not identify themselves by the kind of sex they like to have. If somebody is constantly telling you, "I'm a fisherman" then you can bute that fishing is very important to the man - his life revolves around it to the point where he defines himself by his fishing ability. And he's headed for trouble if he ever finds himself unable to fish.

In the same way, when somebody tells you "I'm a homosexual" he's defining his life by his sexual preferences. That means his life revolves around them.

Shalom.

159 posted on 01/23/2002 10:58:27 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Fee
And here is a perfect case where the Christian can associate with the sinner without its being an occasion of sin, since most people are not tempted to commit the sins the gay groups are promoting.
160 posted on 01/23/2002 10:58:42 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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