NASA extinguishes global-warming fire

Washington Times ^ | February 3, 2002 | Patrick Michaels

[Cincinatus' Wife]

It really happened. The NASA scientist who lit the bonfire of the global warming vanities with his flamboyant congressional testimony 14 years ago, has turned the hose on its dying embers.

There is now no reason for the Bush administration to give an inch on climate change. Sure, energy efficient technologies (like my Honda hybrid) are worth exploring. But there is absolutely no scientific reason for any expensive policy like the Kyoto Protocol on global warming. Mr. Bush led the world by being the first to walk away from Kyoto, and science has proven him correct.

[Chemist_Geek]

Is there a correlation between the heat given off by humans and the average temperature of the atmosphere around big cities?

Ah, yes, the heat-island effect. Most of the older climactic data came from airports, which were (reasonably) located out away from the cities they served. However, as time went by, cities expanded and surrounded the airport with construction, concrete, people, etc. This raised the ambient temperature of the airport, without any climactic change whatsoever.

[Ditter]

Thank Goodness the Gulf Coast summers are hot enough now.

[Chemist_Geek]

Where are the reporters? Somewhere between Enron and September 11, you would think that the death of global warming would merit a feature or two - unless, of course, it's the kind of news that they don't want you to hear.

Is there a bibliography available? I mean, nothing is more fun than an afternoon in the Science Library reading journals, but before I dig into PNAS I'd like to know where...(grin)

[wita]

Now in the fifth record setting non-winter, I couldn't be more grateful for something warmer than real winter, as long as we don't draw liberals, leftists communists, socialists, or a whole bag of otherists, who want to sit back and suck up freedom, and the good weather, at my and your expense, while attempting to further their evil agendas, in a land that should find their ideas so foreign, that they would fear opening their traps, lest they recieve a deportation notice for transfer to the socialist, communist, faschist, democratic, dictatorial, land of choice.

Sorry, I've had it with purveyors of lies, deception, and outright evil, that includes radical environmentalists, earth firsters, wilderness lovers, who want to destroy that wilderness conquering ideal that the founding fathers were so proud of. They should all be on bended knee in gratitude for living in a land of freedom and liberty where I can't just exercise that deportation option. Why would I desire to take the nation backwards 200 plus years along with all of the scientific and technological advancements, just so I can walk in the woods? Oh, I get it, they want it both ways.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I couldn't find James Hansen's recent writings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (may not be on the web yet)

But….

Here are some of Hansen's earlier findings

And ……

(June 1998) - Patrick Michaels Reviews Hansen's Global Warming Forecasts

[angkor]

Global warming is a reality. So is global cooling.

Common sense dictates that a world population fitting inside the borders of Gambia, Jamaica, Lebanon, or the Bahamas is not capable of destroying the earth.

While it is beneficial and desirable to have a clean environment, it also is true that the Greens suffer from a severe case of myopia coupled with supremely absurd arrogance about the powers of humanity versus those of nature.

Cities have always been dirty, and always will, but that's where the most rabid environmentalists live. They are deluded by their own surroundings. It is almost funny.

I once asked a hardcore environmentalist what she saw when looking out the window of a cross-country flight. Was it people, pollution, and devastation, or green trees and arable land? She was unable to answer the question.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Spoke too soon. Here it is.

Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, Vol. 98, Issue 26, 14778-14783, December 18, 2001-- Trends of measured climate forcing agents By James E. Hansen and Makiko Sato

[Solid Oak]

Conservatives have to learn that it is not enough to counter the junk science of environmental soicalists; we have to openly and aggressively attack the MOTIVES behind the frauds. The motives: socialists have successfully used global warming and other scare tactics (e.g. acid rain) to attack the pillers of capitalism (business and private property)and freedom (government regulations). Funny, I missed the TV news coverage of this important story.

[set the record straight]

About time!!

[bimbo]

Looks to me like NASA and Hansen saw that they weren't going to get their "Global Warming Windfall," and so decided to tell the truth and rescue their objectivity.

[Yougottabekidding]

NASA knows how to predict an election better than a weather pattern.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Sorry, I've had it with purveyors of lies, deception, and outright evil, that includes radical environmentalists, earth firsters, wilderness lovers, who want to destroy that wilderness conquering ideal that the founding fathers were so proud of.

A major clearing house for these types. IPS The Institute for Policy Studies( The Progressive Challenge: Linking grassroots activists, scholars, and the Congressional Progressive Caucus toward a multi-issue movement for fairness and justice for all.)

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Oh yes. There is a lot of, 'pleassssse don't cut our budget, we really didn't mean it, Algore made us do it,' in this revelation.

[jabonz]

True. Not only that the poles are actually cooling. Ha!

[Flyer]

They are deluded by their own surroundings

If they would even look around the city they could witness the resilience of nature. For example, one of the sidewalks where I walk my dog crosses a utility easement for about 200 feet. No one maitains this section and the sidewalk is cracked and coming to pieces from the weeds growing through it.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Conservatives have to learn that it is not enough to counter the junk science of environmental soicalists;
we have to openly and aggressively attack the MOTIVES behind the frauds.

You can see many of these socialist players at the LINK at Post # 32.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Kyoto was never about Global Warming. The propaganda about Global Warming was simply the tool to gain power.

Yes!

[Ben Ficklin]

Although this article is 100% accurate on Hansen's assessment in regard to CO2, it is imcomplete in that it doesn't mention his opinion on other emitted gases.

He does call for the regulation and reduction of emissions of: methane which is a greenhouse gas and for those smog producers such as NOx and VOC. Whereas there is no political or scientific consensus on CO2/warming, there is no disagreement on smog/ozone as a problem.

Hansen has written that any global political/economic consequences faced by Bush/US for rejecting CO2 regulation would be offset by regulating smog producing compounds. Hansen refers to this as "taking the high ground away from Europe".

It is important to note actions being taken by individual states on CO2. There are several and where else but the west coast and the northeast. Most recently California has indicated that they will attempt to regulate tailpipe CO2 while Texas, on the other hand, has rejected even doing a CO2 inventory and will concentrate on NOx, VOC, CFC, etc.

[TPartyType]

Virtually the same thing happened last year with regard to Amazon deforestation. One of the prominent voices of doom and gloom retracted his previous, irresponsible forecasts.

Thanks, CW, I'll be sure and distribute this article to my students who are doing research in the area.

[Jhoffa_]

This is funny..

I caught one of those old "In Search Of" episodes on the history channel the other day, you know the ones with Mr. Spock?

Anyway, the focus was how we were surely headed back into another Ice Age and therefore we were ALL DOOMED!

And big ears had a bunch of credible (?) scientists on to back up this theory, of course.

All I could think was if that were a modern episode the focus would be how were were all sure to burn to death from Global Warming caused by our charcoal grills and SUV's..