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Posted on 02/28/2002 9:31:30 AM PST by Asmodeus
... to the exclusion of ALL OTHER FACTORS that served to bring down several other Boeing 747 aircraft I presume?
Just how many 'hull rupture events' have been experienced on B747 aircraft?
Did any of these 747's survive their hull ruptures?
How old was the 747 aircraft that was TWA800?
Huh?
[excerpt from the transcript][emphasis added]
Senator Grassley: I call the hearing to order. I am Senator Chuck Grassley, chairman of this subcommittee, and I welcome everybody to the hearing and particularly welcome our witnesses, many who had to go out of their way to be here. We appreciate it very much.
Today's hearing is the result of a 2-year review by the subcommittee into how Federal agencies handled the investigation of what caused the crash of TWA Flight 800. The subcommittee conducted dozens of interviews of professionals from various agencies who were either on the crash scene or were at high levels within the various headquarters of the various agencies.
A consensus emerged from the interviews, supported by documentary evidence, about the conduct of the investigation. The collective testimony from today's witnesses will leave a very clear picture of that conduct, and, of course, it is a troubling picture.
This investigation was run by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. There is much doubt about whether the FBI had statutory authority as the lead agency. There will be more on that point later.
What the public knows about the crash and its cause is what they know through countless press conferences and leaks to the press. The public also has heard numerous conspiracy theories and myths or disinformation.
The purpose of this hearing is to provide a much more real picture of what happened and, hopefully, why it happened. The motivation for the subcommittee's efforts is to continue to help restore public confidence in Federal law enforcement. It is my intention to examine some very basic and systemic problems uncovered in this investigation.
The goal is to have a constructive dialogue with the FBI to ensure similar problems are not repeated in the future. No one will be fingered as a scapegoat. However, if the FBI says today that its problems are of the past and it is now fixed, I will not buy that, and I warn the public not to buy it, either. There is a whole lot more to be done before the root causes of the problem are fixed. It is a systemic cultural problem that transcends any simplistic fix.
I would like to give a word about today's witnesses, because it is not easy for them to be critical of questionable actions that they saw by FBI personnel. These witnesses will likely have to work with the FBI again, and the FBI is bigger and more powerful than their agencies. So there is an intimidation factor here.
But that is not why these witnesses are coming forward. They are coming forward because of what they saw and what they saw offended them, both from a law enforcement standpoint and from the standpoint of public safety. They are coming forward because they truly believe it will serve the public interest and will improve the way that we investigate future incidents. This is an honorable thing for these people to do. The subcommittee appreciates their testimony and I am confident that the public will, as well.
This is a story about how the world's preeminent law enforcement agency, at least in terms of image and expectation, sometimes acted like it did not even have a clue. I believe that each and every FBI agent and employee who showed up on the scene of that tragic crash did the best job they could and had the best motives. The same goes for the employees of the other agencies and groups that worked so hard. Many volunteered to do that, and they sacrificed their time and their commitment to a greater and humanitarian good.
There was a basic problem, however. In my view, it was one of leadership. FBI leadership in the case of the TWA Flight 800 was a disaster. The FBI says that its investigation in this case is a model for the future. The FBI believes that even now. I say that because of their testimony they submitted for this hearing.
If the FBI still believes that after this hearing, then I think the American people should be very alarmed about whether or not the FBI gets the message, because this investigation, which by statute was supposed to be run by the NTSB but which was commandeered by the FBI, is a model of failure, not success. And anyone who doubts that is not confronting reality.
The testimony that we will hear today will describe three things. First, it will show how the FBI lacked the proper training to handle an investigation of this type and violated the most basic standards of forensic science in terms of collecting evidence, handling that evidence, and preserving the evidence. It is the kind of thing that would make even rookie cops wince.
Second, we will try to understand the culture within the FBI that allows this sort of thing to happen. Why does the world's preeminent law enforcement agency make the kinds of mistakes that even rookies do not make?
And third, why is it that the FBI would try to prevent critical public safety information from getting to the proper authorities?
A January 1997 ATF report, which will be discussed today, showed that the cause of the crash of the TWA Flight 800 was a mechanical failure. The FBI did not want that report out. It tried to suppress it. The FBI feared that if the case became a criminal case and went to court, the ATF report would be discoverable through Brady doctrine and might help exculpate the potential suspects. But the FBI had the cart before the horse. You cannot start suppressing information when there is no crime. The vast majority of explosions like TWA are due to accidents, not to sabotage. For the FBI to assume first that an explosion is sabotage reveals its lack of experience in dealing with explosion incidents. Indeed, the FBI rarely investigates explosions and fires. Other law enforcement agencies, most notably the ATF, investigate many explosions and have lots of experience.
The proof is in the pudding. The ATF called the cause of the crash correctly, 10 months before the FBI did. In fact, it is fair to say that the FBI hindered the investigation and the public's and the families' right to know, and in the process, in my view, the FBI risked public safety.
Then you are a coward.
b) sometimes the truth is really nasty and the populace has the right NOT to know;
Bull$hit. Other than military operational readiness data, the public has every right to know what the federal government does with the money it confiscates from the populace.
c) the current administration is busy getting down to business; and
Sure, they get down to business, we get shafted, funny how that works.
d) W has no interest in causing any more scandals. It's called "CLASS."
Yet more bull$hit, it's called covering his a$$. W is no more interested in presenting the truth than were his 2 predecessors. Theonly thing that this President, like those before him are interested in is expanding the power and budget of the federal government. Too bad these idiots haven't learned the lesson that the Soviets learned.
If you aren't for the airing of the truth, then you are a liar.
---max
yep.
I couldn't have worded this better myself japaneseghost...nice to see ya...regards to Standwatie...
KLT aka Karen
More unsubstantiated rumor, religiously believed by tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists...
As yourself this question. Why are the autopsies of the victims classified? It is reported that one of the X-Ray technicians exclaimed that the autopsy X-Rays showed that the victims were full of shrapnel. That technician was taken off the case and the autopsies were CLASSIFIED!
The top surface of the horizontal stabilizer had jet turbine blades imbedded which suggests that one or more engines were "spittin'" blades. Since the center fuel tank did not explode per the "story" then what caused the jet malfunction? Missile warhead anyone?
The westernmost victim was identified as a gentleman seated at the rear of the aircraft. This and the imbedded turbine blades show that the aircraft broke apart and the tail separated before that mythical climb that the NTSB/CIA contrived to explain away the missile trails observed by over 500 witnesses!
Finally. there were the post 911 interviews with Senator Kerry, George Stephanopolous, and FBI Agent-in-Charge Kallstrom that TWA-800 was brought down by a bomb and was a terrorist act.
I've read Aviation Week for 40 years and never have I witnessed such bull-cr*p from an aviation accident. Boeing and the machinist unions have disavowed the fuel tank explosion.
A missile did it and Xlinton covered it up. After all what's more important, the safety of US citizens or the re-election of the rapist?
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