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Learn the Facts about Hunting
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Posted on 04/08/2002 4:23:46 PM PDT by Sungirl

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To: Sungirl; Dan from Michigan
Don't bring up animals hurting other animals unless you are gonna put man on the same level as animals.

Sungirl, that is exactly what we see *you* doing. "Animals have as much right to live as man." blah blah blah...

If you think it's ok to eat meat from a grocery store, you have no rational argument against hunters who prefer to sometimes do themselves what all the people in the meat processing industry do for a living.

We all agreed that if those people did the illegal things you overheard, they were criminals.

101 posted on 04/08/2002 6:23:43 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
I really doubt we'll get any volunteers for honest answers from the people who have. How many people here have known someone who has killed for thrill or boredom and have drank or killed an endangered species? I doubt anyone will answer that either.

Sungirl, your arguments sound just like any argument you'll hear from a liberal on ANY topic. "Well, of course there's no evidence to support my position, but I'm right because it's the way I FEEL." By the way, I didn't see you reply to the question about whether you eat meat or use other animal products. If you do, I don't think you can justify having such a holier-than-thou attitude just because you choose to hire other people to do your killing for you.

102 posted on 04/08/2002 6:23:48 PM PDT by Wissa
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To: Sungirl
Sungirl, have you visited a slaughter house lately? There you will see the animals that you eat have their hide removed before they are dead. Hunting is much more humane. Besides, you were on this rant last week. Get lost.
103 posted on 04/08/2002 6:23:53 PM PDT by chainsaw
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Tsk Tsk

Even deer populations may be damaged by hunting pressure. Unlike natural predators and the forces of natural selection, hunters do not target the weaker individuals in populations of deer or other animals.

Rather, deer hunters seek out the bucks that have the largest rack. This desire for "trophy sized" bucks can and has had detrimental effects on the health of deer herds. First, hunting can impact the social structure of a herd because hunters kill the mature males of a herd and create a disproportionate ratio of females to males. It is not uncommon to find a herd that has no bucks over the age of three. Second, genetically inferior bucks may be left to propagate the species, thereby weakening the overall health of the herd.

Because hunters largely want to shoot only bucks, hunting may cause artificial inflation of deer populations. When these populations reach levels that available habitat cannot support, increased disease and starvation may be the result.

104 posted on 04/08/2002 6:27:18 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Thanks for the reminder! I'd almost forgot I need to buy my hubby a new gun cleaning kit so his aim is deadly accurate the next time he goes to blow away some furry critter....

FP

105 posted on 04/08/2002 6:27:42 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Sungirl
Well...I think you've proven alot of my problems with hunters and animals. No respect for them attall

No, it's *you* we are having a hard time garnering respect for.

106 posted on 04/08/2002 6:28:43 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
Did anyone in FR ever send money to Peta in their lives? ANyone in here ever give money to the ASPCA or Humane Society?

Don't forget the catholic church.......?

107 posted on 04/08/2002 6:29:26 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Sungirl
I sent money to Peta awhile ago....but don't anymore...too radical now. I wish you would at least point get that point out since I have made that clear to you over and over again.

Hmmm... I missed that post. Well there's a ray of hope!

108 posted on 04/08/2002 6:29:49 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
Yeah but most of us agree they're pretty stringy and tough.

Not compared to porcupine. Won't try that again unless I'm starving.

Cat, however, can be quite tender and tasty. Had some in Europe in the 70's.

109 posted on 04/08/2002 6:30:12 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Sure!
110 posted on 04/08/2002 6:30:42 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
You've never heard about QDM? Buckmasters?

Your education is sorely lacking.

111 posted on 04/08/2002 6:31:01 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Sungirl
I... I just don't have the words.....

except maybe, where's the barf alert?
112 posted on 04/08/2002 6:31:30 PM PDT by babaloo999
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To: Sungirl
I was visiting the meat processing plant, you know, where they -ahem- process the cattle?

They have this neat little device, called a captive bolt, which when fired, shoots out this 3/8 inch thick (about the size of a small bullet) bolt, that only shoots out 1.5 inches from the gun, they hold it up next to the skull then fire it. it shoots a small amount of skull into the brain, hence the cow/steer is momentarily stunned (no one knows if it is in fact dead or just "stunned", after which they hoist it up one one rear leg, slit the throat to start bleeding it, and 90 seconda later, it has been skinned, cut in half with a electric chain saw, disemboweled, had the three remaining feet amputated, head cut off, and into the cooler.

Personally, I think a bullet in the heart or brain is much more humane, but if you eat beef, and do not kill in yourself, that is what the meat processers do for you. Oh yeas, their motive is -gasp-profit.

113 posted on 04/08/2002 6:32:10 PM PDT by going hot
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Well...I think you've proven alot of my problems with hunters and animals

And how do you figure that, kiddo?

Because she said so.

114 posted on 04/08/2002 6:33:09 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Wissa
WHat does eating meat have to do with hunters thrill killing or killing animals out of boredom? Or shooting for furs, trophies and racks? OR teaching their kids to kill a squirrel, rabbit or crow 'just because?'

It's alot different than killing for food. I asked you if cows and chickens are hunted.....you never answered me.

115 posted on 04/08/2002 6:33:13 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Hunting is not cruel at all. Every deer I've shot has gone straight down, at which time I can finish it off with a well-placed shot to the head. But that usually isn't necessary.
116 posted on 04/08/2002 6:33:32 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: chainsaw
You get lost.

How many animals actually drop dead on the spot? How many get away with a bullet in them only to suffer for days on end.

117 posted on 04/08/2002 6:35:07 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Eagle Eye
Talking about squirrel? Not bad if stewed , never try to grill or barbq one, baaaad idea.

My daddy used to cook rabbits by driving a nail into the mantle and hanging a dressed rabbit by a greased string in front of the fire, ever so often he would tworl the string and get the rabbit to spinning. yum. Tastes kind of like frogs legs. yuuuummmmmm. I have seen him skin two,TWO rabbits at the same time, awesome!

Old timer, I know you're watching, those days afield were the best, I bless God I had a father like you.

118 posted on 04/08/2002 6:37:16 PM PDT by tet68
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To: going hot
Thank God the animals orgs are constantly watching these slaughterhouses.....they have improved quit a bit because of them.
119 posted on 04/08/2002 6:38:36 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
How many animals actually drop dead on the spot?

The majority. See my number 116.

120 posted on 04/08/2002 6:39:06 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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