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Out of Control Leftists: Vote meaningless (my title)
Carmel Pine Cone ^ | 11-22-2002 | By MARY BROWNFIELD

Posted on 11/23/2002 4:06:57 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood

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21 posted on 11/23/2002 2:07:53 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Unbelievable.
22 posted on 11/23/2002 5:03:49 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Unbelievable.

Typical for this area of California...

23 posted on 11/23/2002 5:16:02 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Typical for this area of California...

It's the water./sarcasm

24 posted on 11/24/2002 1:17:22 AM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Where's Clint Eastwood when you guys really need him?
25 posted on 11/24/2002 2:48:37 AM PST by pariah
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To: let freedom sing
It's the water./sarcasm

Maybe. The must be drinking or smoking something...

26 posted on 11/24/2002 6:08:02 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: jimtorr
"Ready on the Right..Ready on the Left...with Ball ammunition LOCK & LOAD! Commence firing!!!
27 posted on 11/24/2002 6:11:38 AM PST by Don Corleone
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To: pariah
Where's Clint Eastwood when you guys really need him?

Mr. Eastwood is what, seventy-seven? I think if he was a little younger, he would have the energy to take some of them on. He has a lot of irons in the fire already for someone his age.

A lot of the very wealthy folks around this place are either limousine liberals or tepid conservatives who do nothing but play golf and wear checked pants, go to resturaunts, hire illegals very cheaply to clean their yards and toilets or tend to the crops.

I call it "Plantation Monterey County." I'm fortunate to have a few bucks, but I'm no J. Paul Getty either...

28 posted on 11/24/2002 6:22:04 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Don Corleone
Helm, bring her around 135 degrees to port. Ready the port side guns and commence firing on my signal...
29 posted on 11/24/2002 6:32:43 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
It seems that you can't even vote these Watermelong Jihadists out of power by winning an election.

The Watermelon Jihadists have controlled Carmel for decades.

We had friends, who had a cottage in Carmel and would rent it to friends for short term useage. They had a big pine tree in their back yard. It was not a native pine. A tree remover said that it was very dangerous as it was too tall and big for its shallow root system and could blow over in a big coastal storm.

Of course the tree lovers in Carmel refused to allow the tree to be cut down.

During one of the big storms we had a few years ago, the tree was blown down and basically destroyed the house next door owned by a sister. Fortunately the people who were renters were out of town as the tree would have killed them as their bedroom was where the bulk of the tree hit. The tree damage another house on the other side of their sister's home and narrowing missed injuring or killing the owners by a few feet.

Then after all this mess re insurance and the city of Carmel Watermelon bureaucrats was taken care of to rebuild the cottage. The rats in charge of the Carmel City council voted to outlaw short term rentals to people like us. This meant our friends had no income coming in to pay for property taxes and upkeep on their cottage. So they sold it.
30 posted on 11/24/2002 7:44:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
It seems that you can't even vote these Watermelon Jihadists out of power by winning an election.

Yes, it seems the local Republicans are always getting tepid primary candidates who are sure to lose in the general elections winning in our primaries. It makes one wonder.

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The Watermelon Jihadists have controlled Carmel for decades.

Some of this has changed recently. We got rid of a few of the far Lefties on the Carmel city council. They are now a 3 to 2 minority. BUT, this is no reason to relax.

It is at the other municipal, county, regional districts and state level where we have a huge problem. Of course the local news media aids and abets the Leftist lies and the sheople take it hook, line and sinker...

31 posted on 11/24/2002 9:16:03 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Congratulation on this victory: Some of this has changed recently. We got rid of a few of the far Lefties on the Carmel city council. They are now a 3 to 2 minority. BUT, this is no reason to relax.

You can never relax with the left wing elitists in California in your area or my area the wine country.

32 posted on 11/24/2002 9:27:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Grampa Dave
You gentlemen have brought back quite a few memories for me.

I partly grew up in Carmel Valley during the 50's and 60's when there were something like a population of 1800 between Highway 1 and the village, Brintons was actually the Safeway, and the Carmel River used to flow all summer long. Not much of a flow mind you, but there were a few holes were one could actually swim in August.

The real development in the Valley started in the late 60's what with Del Mesa Carmel, Carmel Valley Gulf and CC, etc. This was in addition to quite a building boom that was also taking place on the Peninsula. I was on leave in probably '68 and remember Cal-Am putting in a couple of large wells on the lower river. The pressure on the Las Padres Dam resevoir was such that they had to start supplementing with well water.

When I got out of the service in '70, I married and settled down in the Valley. I can still remember a summer afternoon in probably '71 and looking down at the valley floor from our place on the east side of the Valley by Farm Center. I was remarking to my wife that something didn't look right and then realized what it was! The cottonwoods along the riverbed had all died off during the 3 years I was in the Army. The water pumping had already so lowered the water table that the more mature trees couldn't survive in places.

So you see, this has been a problem for quite sometime. The small landowner has continually had his water rights and availability restricted. You'll notice however, that the Porters, Marquadts, and the creep who is now a Representative (forget his name just now), and the large developers with the resources have been able to continually win approval for their projects.

I've been out of touch with the area since '81 when I moved and so don't pretend to be able to comment on the current situation there. It struck me from the article that so many of the names were the same 20-30 years ago. If these people had to actually produce something most wouldn't keep there jobs very long. I just thought that maybe you'd like a little historical perspective.

Like so many beautiful places in the USA, this one is infected with a leftist/expropriator mentality in its local government and bureaucracy.

I much prefer the South where I now live.
33 posted on 11/24/2002 2:00:01 PM PST by x1stcav
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To: x1stcav
You have just described Carmel and many formerly wonderful places on the Kali and Oregon coast like Carmel:

Like so many beautiful places in the USA, this one (Carmel) is infected with a leftist/expropriator mentality in its local government and bureaucracy.

34 posted on 11/24/2002 2:05:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Probably a lot of this 40 million $'s went to well heeled rat elites posing as consultants and experts.

Then they in turned donated to local rats in the Carmel City Council, county rats and of course State rats from Moonbeam to the current clone of Moonbeam, Grayout Davis.
35 posted on 11/24/2002 2:07:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
You posted, "This water board has spent in excess of 40 million dollars on "studies" and other useless measures. The board director, Henson (a Sierra Club lawyer), has filed numerous lawsuits in the Leftist controlled and corrupted local courts to prevent any solutions to local problems of traffic, water, housing, etc...

How much of that $40 million ended up in Club Sierra Coffers after these law suits. This has/is happening all over the nice areas of Kali to live in.

36 posted on 11/24/2002 2:09:18 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: concerned about politics
You forgot no food as no water and electricity would rurally cleanse all farmers and ranchers from their farms and ranchers.

Then Club Sierra can round all of us up to live in LA or San Jose to eat recycled food.
37 posted on 11/24/2002 2:11:29 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Bump.
38 posted on 11/24/2002 2:47:29 PM PST by mafree
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Or the fresh salt air...

Those pillars of the community... you know the type... salt of the earth./sarcasm

39 posted on 11/24/2002 3:11:47 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Grampa Dave
Then Club Sierra can round all of us up to live in LA or San Jose to eat recycled food.

And drink recycled toilet water... like the astronuts do.

40 posted on 11/24/2002 3:14:46 PM PST by let freedom sing
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