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Rand Paul on Ted Cruz: We need a conservative nominee with “winnability” (Not satire)
Hot Air ^ | March 24, 2015 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/24/2015 1:03:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I did … not think we’d be seeing Rand, of all people, making electability arguments at the expense of other candidates, but if there’s any guy in the field whom Democrats would demagogue more gleefully than they would him, I suppose it’s Cruz.

The money line here comes when he talks about “not just throwing out red meat, but throwing out something intellectually enticing to people who haven’t been listening to our message before.” That’ll be his core attack on Cruz throughout the primaries, partly of necessity since there’s not much that divides them on policy (by Paul’s own admission). If you want a guy who’ll preach to the choir and only to the choir, vote Cruz; if you want a guy who’ll preach to a skeptical audience at Howard University about the virtues of liberty, vote Rand. That’s been Paul’s message for two years now — that he can make the party bigger like no one else because he’s willing and able to advance a right-wing agenda which, on certain matters like medical marijuana, overlaps with traditionally “moderate” or even liberal positions. Cruz’s reply to that will be his favored line about painting in “bold colors, not pale pastels,” which holds that a traditional conservative agenda, championed in hopeful, unapologetic terms by a master rhetorician, will sway moderates today just as it did when Reagan took that approach 35 years ago. Compare those two messages, “big libertarian-ish tent” versus “return to Reagan,” and you see why Cruz’s candidacy is such a thorn in Rand’s side. If Paul’s big argument against Cruz for right-wing votes is that he’s relatively more electable, what happens to that argument once Bush and Walker and Rubio start going to work on Rand for his own perceived unelectability? If you’re a Reagan conservative and you become convinced that you’ve got a 15 percent chance of beating Hillary with Paul versus a 10 percent chance with Cruz, you might as well roll the dice on Cruz, right? Especially if you’re a hawk who’s more comfortable with his approach to foreign policy.

Paul’s counter to all of the above is that he’s not unelectable and that the polls bear it out. Is that true? Sort of yes, sort of no. It’s true that he’s occasionally polled better head-to-head against Hillary than the competition, most recently in CNN’s latest survey. What he’s not telling you is that, even in that poll, he trailed her by double digits. And if you average the results of the last five or so national polls showing head-to-head matchups with Clinton, you’ll find that Paul’s actually slightly behind Rubio and Walker and only very slightly ahead of Jeb Bush. The good news for Rand fans, in other words, is that he’s no worse at this point than the other top contenders, not that he’s much better. Also, if you dig into the crosstabs, you’ll find that his numbers among black voters and young adults — two core Democratic constituencies that he’s been targeting to demonstrate his electability — really are no warmer to him than they are to the rest of the field. In this Marist poll taken a few weeks ago, for instance, both Walker and Bush do better than Paul versus Hillary in both demographics. McClatchy found Paul holding Hillary to an 11-point advantage among the 18-29 group … but Chris Christie held her to a six-point lead. Paul wasn’t much better against Clinton than Christie or Bush among young adults in PPP’s poll either — and among black voters he was absolutely swamped at 88/1. So far, the only poll I’ve seen showing Paul with obvious strength among young voters vis-a-vis the rest of the GOP is this one from Fox News, which was taken two months ago and didn’t include Walker, Rubio, or Cruz. If you’re a Rand fan, you can shrug all of that off on grounds that it’s early and he hasn’t introduced himself to most black voters and young voters, which is true — but the competition’s oppo researchers haven’t gone to work on him yet either.

Electability arguments are fine but ultimately the “Cruz or Paul?” question will be settled by how you react to their very different personal styles and how much you trust Rand as commander-in-chief. If you’re a righty who wants to try something different this time and/or you find that Cruz’s public persona gets under your skin, you’ve got Rand. If you find Cruz’s oratory inspiring and fear that Rand’ll be unpredictable (a.k.a. too libertarian) in office, you’ve got Cruz.

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TOPICS: Kentucky; Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; kentucky; lping; randpaul; tedcruz; texas
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Ted Cruz was at only 3% at this point in his US Senate race in Texas. Remind me how that turned out.
1 posted on 03/24/2015 1:03:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should we take seriously a guy who walks around with a birds nest on his head?


2 posted on 03/24/2015 1:05:56 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 14 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Electability arguments are fine but ultimately the “Cruz or Paul?” question will be settled by how you react to their very different personal styles

for me it is not about style, but about substance...

3 posted on 03/24/2015 1:06:49 PM PDT by latina4dubya (wheni have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand Paul’s campaign is gasping for air before race has begun. He will be the first candidate to opt out.


4 posted on 03/24/2015 1:07:42 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz is the anti-elite candidate. Voters will cross party lines for that. His Liberty speech was aimed squarely at the middle/lower class that has been hammered by BO and Democrats.


5 posted on 03/24/2015 1:08:34 PM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It is the just got out of bed look, very popular on college campuses. Rand is trying to round up the youth vote. But youth’s are notorious for low turnouts, unless a messianic candidate like Obummer comes on the scene.


6 posted on 03/24/2015 1:08:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Winnability” is Establishmentspeak for

catering to moderates by acting moderate,

instead of the REAL winning strategy of teaching the dumb masses why conservatism is superior.


7 posted on 03/24/2015 1:10:11 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This fellow with his dangerous isolationist foreign policy is talking about winability. Alice is in Wonderland.


8 posted on 03/24/2015 1:10:33 PM PDT by BigEdLB (We're experienceing the rule of a Roman Emperor, Barack I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and how does Paul attract besides the nut jobs, illegals and homosexuals yes druggies because all they think about is getting their drugs

Every loon who supports Paul always refer to their drugs being legal and then hide behind the slogan of no Govt.


9 posted on 03/24/2015 1:11:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: latina4dubya

Would anyone be paying attention to Rand were it not for his daddy’s name?


10 posted on 03/24/2015 1:11:28 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: stars & stripes forever

I have noticed that too. Cruz took his little fake win at CPAC out and now grasps at straws.

But never fear his voters will be invading all these kind of websites soon harping about no Govt should tell us what we do bla bla.
Ask them about incest, age of consent drugs being sold at a K school, homosexual marriage and their agenda, open borders, reduced military and they shy away


11 posted on 03/24/2015 1:13:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey Rand, what other conservative is running for the nomination besides Cruz? You?

ROFL.

12 posted on 03/24/2015 1:14:03 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: TheDon; MrB; manc; latina4dubya; GrandJediMasterYoda; onyx; LucyT; SoConPubbie; ...

William Cruz (No matter who you back, read this)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3271322/posts


13 posted on 03/24/2015 1:15:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Rand Paul: a Martin O’Malley a look alike.


14 posted on 03/24/2015 1:15:27 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipe like Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: manc

I think you meant Rand, not Cruz there.


15 posted on 03/24/2015 1:16:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: TheDon

DemoCRAPS are petrified of Cruz. Hillary is getting her sh*tgoblin press fiends to attack him every day. THE REVOLT HAS STARTED!


16 posted on 03/24/2015 1:16:42 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I did thanks pal, I wish we had the edit button on here.


17 posted on 03/24/2015 1:16:53 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had hoped Rand and Ted would “tag team” the political elites and the GOP establishment picks, but sadly Rand may very well have sold out...


18 posted on 03/24/2015 1:17:40 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ted Cruz was at only 3% at this point in his US Senate race in Texas. Remind me how that turned out.

Reagan was down 30% to Carter after the primaries.

This is the same, TIRED argument used by the GOP Establishment to try and manipulate conservatives to vote for their tried and true losers. Every Single Time!

They did it with Dole, they did it with Rudy, they did it with McCain, and they did it with Romney.

If you see someone using this fallacious argument, KNOW that it is a false statement.
19 posted on 03/24/2015 1:18:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well by Rands own statement he excludes himself on both counts.


20 posted on 03/24/2015 1:18:48 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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