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Young: ‘Thirders’ have taken over GOP
The Austin American-Statesman ^ | September 30, 2015 | John Young

Posted on 09/29/2015 10:48:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of Republicans are hoping Donald Trump will go away, and here’s why he won’t: The Thirders aren’t going away, either.

Understand, the Thirders aren’t a lot of us — just a third — but being the life force of the Republican Party, they are enough to run it. That’s a takeaway from the announced retirement of Speaker John Boehner. He is conceding the House to the forces of GOP wackery.

We used to know the Thirders as Birthers, but we’ve come to see that they have, um, diversified.

The term “Thirders” is my own. It came from polls that show a solid core of right-wingers resistant to any factual assault — polls consistently showing that one-third of Americans don’t believe President Obama was born here, and polls showing that about a third of Americans believe him to be a Muslim.

Anything they can believe about the man, the Thirders will rationalize. Did you hear about the poll showing that one-third of Louisiana Republicans blamed Obama for the poor federal response to Hurricane Katrina — three years before he became president? Did you hear that three years into implementation, a sizable portion of Republicans still believes “death panels” are built into the Affordable Care Act?

Did you hear that Obama will abolish the 22nd Amendment to make himself president for life? I hear this from Thirders who believe it. It would be a trick, considering what it takes to amend the Constitution, but Thirders know Obama is planning it.

It should be no surprise that Donald Trump, the Thirder with the most hair and most money, is leading in the race for the GOP presidential nomination.

It should be no surprise that Ben Carson also is doing well among the Thirders, and Ted Cruz still thinks he can secure their heart.

George Will is not a Thirder. He writes that, with his anti-immigrant appeals, Trump wishes to “turn America into a police state in order to facilitate ethnic cleansing.” Yikes.

Charles Krauthammer is not a Thirder. He calls Carson’s assertion that a Muslim should not be president not only contrary to the First Amendment but “morally outrageous.”

All of this is to point out the mathematical truth that these candidates’ popularity is based on the heartbeat of a fringe of America’s fringe.

Let’s do the Thirder math: If we assume, as polls show, that Republicans and those who lean that way are about 45 percent of voters — and if Trump and Carson are supported by roughly 20 percent of them apiece (new CNN poll) — that means that they are supported by 9 percent apiece of all of us. If 11 percent of Republicans fall for Carly Fiorina’s increasingly fact-challenged claims, that’s about 5 percent of us. If Cruz is supported by 5 percent of Republicans, that represents 2.25 percent of us.

Is Marco Rubio a Thirder? He made quite a play the other day. He implied that women get abortions for a piece of the profit alleged to Planned Parenthood from the sale of fetal tissue. That claim — illegal profiteering — is one that rafts of investigations and investigators have failed to prove.

Let’s say such irresponsible claims are a reason why Rubio now has 11 percent support among Republicans, having gained Thirder street cred. That’s, once again, 5 percent of us.

Add the cumulative support of Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Rubio and Cruz, and you’ve got — what did I say? — just about one third of Americans, spectacularly resistant to anything approaching reality, and ready to vote that way.


TOPICS: New York; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016election; carson; certifigate; cruz; election2016; fiorina; newyork; rubio; tedcruz; trump
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1 posted on 09/29/2015 10:48:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This writer is in Texas? Sounds like someone has been inhaling a whoft of cannabis. Did the author write this in Seattle or Denver?


2 posted on 09/29/2015 10:54:06 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

It really IS worth your time.
3 posted on 09/29/2015 10:56:04 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Add the cumulative support of Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Rubio and Cruz, and you’ve got — what did I say? — just about one third of Americans”

Wrong. Those five together account for over 70% of Republican primary voters, in other words two-thirders in the parlance of establishment liberal John Young.


4 posted on 09/29/2015 10:56:38 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did you hear about the poll showing that one-third of Louisiana Republicans blamed Obama for the poor federal response to Hurricane Katrina...

I would call him a liar. I would say most of them blame Governor Blanco, and they would be right...

Did you hear that three years into implementation, a sizable portion of Republicans still believes “death panels” are built into the Affordable Care Act?

It is. It is written into every line. Surprising this genius still hasn't figured it out.

Did you hear that Obama will abolish the 22nd Amendment to make himself president for life?

Yes, I have heard it repeatedly from O's own supporters and inner circle. Mainly during the first term of office. Haven't heard it lately, I think even they are getting tired of him...

He calls Carson’s assertion that a Muslim should not be president not only contrary to the First Amendment but “morally outrageous.”

Really? Its not contrary to the First Amendment to vote against someone who shouldn't be president.

Its not morally outrageous to vote against someone incapable of obeying the constitution. I wish people had thought about this before electing a marxist.

5 posted on 09/29/2015 10:57:33 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given that this “President”, with a complicit ultraleft media, has done everything to hide/cover up/lie about his past, it is no wonder that the worst can be believed about him.

You built THAT, Zero. Own it.


6 posted on 09/29/2015 10:58:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BigEdLB
This writer is in Texas? Sounds like someone has been inhaling a whoft of cannabis. Did the author write this in Seattle or Denver?

I'd say Austin, there are a hell of a lot more liberals then you would think in Texas, you know like in the university cities, people like the Castro brothers.

7 posted on 09/29/2015 10:58:25 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other 2/3 wouldn’t mind if a democrat won.

Remember how many people voted for Carter in 1980+all the George HW Bush snobs that were scared of Reagan.

Reagan saved/re-launched a confident America; Bush capitulated to Sen. Dem leader George Mitchell-who basically ran US domestic policy. imo


8 posted on 09/29/2015 11:00:35 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Its Austin.Just a commie sh!thole.


9 posted on 09/29/2015 11:01:47 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Facts:

1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.

2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.

3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.

4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?

5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.

Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.


10 posted on 09/29/2015 11:01:56 PM PDT by Ultima
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s the ranting of a frightened GOPe stooge.


11 posted on 09/29/2015 11:02:29 PM PDT by Pelham (It ain't over 'til it's over)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Speaking as someone who used to write ad copy for a living, I have some observations on the term “Thirders”.
1. Taken from an audio perspective, the term “Thirders” is not appealing. It sounds minor, vs major. There is no sharp vowel sound (a,e,i,o,u,y).
2. The definition of ‘third’ brings to mind something ‘not as good as the ‘first’, almost as good as the ‘second’.
3. Forgive me for saying it, but that word sounds awfully close to the word ‘turders’: something no one wishes to identify with.
I’m not talking about the meaning. I understand his meaning, and more or less agree with his conclusions. I’m speaking only of the sound effect of that term.
In my opinion, I’m fine being called a member of the Tea Party.


12 posted on 09/29/2015 11:05:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just the fact that he used the term, “right wingers”, shows his true colors... Of course, him posting from Texas’ Communist Austin says a lot.


13 posted on 09/29/2015 11:05:44 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... spectacularly resistant to anything approaching reality ...

I know you are but what am I. And thanks for calling me young.

14 posted on 09/29/2015 11:07:41 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Yosemitest

Cruz speaks for me. He gets it. Even he isn’t telling the whole story yet, because the world isn’t ready to hear the whole story which is worse than anything the idiot who wrote this commentary even imagines we “wackos” are claiming. But both Cruz and Trump get it. They understand that America is in a war for her very survival, and the media and establishment are the ones selling us to the Islamic caliphate.

When the truth outs, all these idiots will be exposed. And it couldn’t happen to a more worthy bunch.


15 posted on 09/29/2015 11:13:39 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The thirders want to kick the conservatives out of the GOP?


16 posted on 09/29/2015 11:19:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What an unbiased take from this "Journalist":

Young has won several national awards including two first-place honors from the National Society of Newspaper Columnists, first place in commentary from the Education Writers Association and multiple Best of Cox honors in in column writing and editorial writing. He is a two-time winner of the national Maggie Award from Planned Parenthood of America for commentaries about family planning, reproductive rights and gay rights. He also was a third-place winner in the National Headliners Awards for editorial writing.

From here:

http://www.johnyoungcolumn.com/bio.html

17 posted on 09/29/2015 11:26:12 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“... that Republicans and those who lean that way are about 45 percent of voters — and if Trump and Carson are supported by roughly 20 percent of them apiece (new CNN poll) — that means that they are supported by 9 percent apiece of all of us. If 11 percent of Republicans fall for Carly Fiorina’s increasingly fact-challenged claims, that’s about 5 percent of us. If Cruz is supported by 5 percent of Republicans, that represents 2.25 percent of us.”

Reminds me of Abbott and Costello doing math:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxjVW8iLMdU


18 posted on 09/29/2015 11:26:13 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear John Young,
I was in West Africa prior to the first election of Obama and during his election. It was widely accepted there that Obama was born in Kenya and a muslim. Muslim money traders had pictures of their man in his full muslim regalia posted in their kiosks. Their opinion, openly stated with no debate? Their man, a muslim from Kenya was going to RU*LE America.

You really have no idea but have been swayed by the medias.


19 posted on 09/29/2015 11:32:01 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: BigEdLB
This writer is in Texas? Sounds like someone has been inhaling a whoft of cannabis.

They roll doobs bigger in Texas.

20 posted on 09/29/2015 11:32:45 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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