The G.O.P. is officially in a State of Civil War. The Union is Dissolved.
Which Side is What? That is as Contested as the Nomination.
Sorry, I will never vote for Trump. He is nothing more than Obama is different clothes.
The G.O.P. is officially in a State of Civil War. The Union is Dissolved.
Which Side is What? That is as Contested as the Nomination.
After seeing about 100 of the most disgusting vile tabloid type threads this weekend? Hmmmmmmmmmm.......
Assuming the nominee will be Cruz or Trump, I’m right there with you. a vote for the (R) candidate is the only choice to work on keeping the (D) candidate from being elevated to nation-destroyer-in-chief.
If the RNC pulls some shenanigans and sneaks in a weasel in a brokered convention, all bets will be off and we’ll see people on our side staying home in droves.
I will vote the most effective way I can to keep hillary out, and that means voting for the GOP nominee. I voted Cruz in Primary, if Trump wins the nomination, I will not enjoy voting for him, but I will do it. Voting for someone with only some conservative values is better than electing someone with none.
What about if it’s neither Trump nor Cruz.
There are only two political lanes, conservative and establishment. Currently Trump is in the conservative lane because his issues are 100% conservative and he has no ties to the establishment, doesn’t owe them anything including his political future.
Cruz and Kasich share the establishment lane. Cruz has 100% conservative views but is now solidly in with establishment money, organization, endorsements, etc. Cruz would owe the GOP for this race then depend on them for his next race. Though since Cruz doesn’t belong to the club, the GOP would probably sue Ted for natural born citizen eligibility if he got that far.
Kasich has always been establishment, 9 terms in House then to Lehman Bros where he got 1/2 million a year for selling access. He’s pro-amnesty, for gun control, 100% in for TPP/Obamacare and the list goes on. He is totally funded by GOP and GOP donors.
Thus voters have to pick a lane, no other way to see it.
But I will not vote for Romney or some other GOPee fool if they steal the nomination from the clear front-runners Trump and Cruz!
I really don’t understand why Cruz was so willing to work with the GOP-e; disavowing the GOP-e would have gotten him a nice position in the Trump Administration and would have almost guaranteed him the next nomination. Instead, Cruz was willing to give disgraced GOP-e hacks like Neil Bush a platform.
He’s still not going to win the nomination (at a brokered convention, the GOP-e stabs him in the back), and he’s pissed off enough conservatives that he probably wouldn’t get the nomination in 2024 or the next viable year. He did a lot of good before the nomination, then he completely destroyed his own legacy because he was so desperate to get the nomination this year.
At this point, he’d be lucky to keep his Senate seat.
Needs to stop. Fuel pored on the floor by the GOP-e.
I want to agree with this sentiment, but I find it difficult to do so. The reason why is that I don’t believe Trump views the situation as they described in the article i.e., a common enemy to be defeated.
The reason being is that while Trump offers policy prescriptions on certain issues, there’s no sense of an overarching ideology which views the left and democrats as enemies.
Trump’s candidacy is based on a technocratic understanding of politics. We need smarter people in government, better deals, etc. His is not an ideological stance. Consider the veto of the religious liberty bill in Georgia which we are all up in arms about today. A person with a technocratic reading of politics or the culture does not sign that bill.
A Governor Trump in Georgia would look at the pros and cons of that bill, determine that economically it does more harm than good based on corporate boycott threats and vetoes the bill. Believing he is doing the most good for the most people in that state. Disregarding the ideological component.
Hear! Hear!
If Trump is not the nominee, I walk away, no vote ever again in any election...
Trump or NONE!!!
I believe the fix is in with the communists Democrats with the blessing of the GOPe. Trump or Cruz will not be the nominee. You can take that to the bank. The will of the people be damned, we are slaves to the power structure of corrupt Washington.
If Trump is robbed of the nomination by GOPe dirty tricks/rules I will support Trump running as a independent.
I 100% agree hillary must never be in the WH, but Teb belongs in a rubber room and I can’t be believe anyone is still fooled by him.
It would take an awfully large clothespin to hold my nose closed enough to vote for Trump.
The only way I could support Trump is if he is denied the nomination while having the most delegates. Adhering to the rule of law and the will of the people is far more important a cause than being against Trump.
Sorry Vet, but look at this thread and you can see what is going to happen. This open and deep feud is not going away every statement about either candidates unfitness is countered by the other-side feeling the exact same way.
All Bernie or Hillary need do is feed the feud by providing facts and rumors as to what one side or the other did and the knives will be out and the win will be theirs and there isn’t a damn thing that will stop it. At this point the best we can hope for is to hold the House and the Senate and throw the local rascals out and then hope that they grow a backbone.
I’m for Trump. For the most part though, I have refrained from getting personal. Not that I haven’t gotten angery of course. My anger is mostly geared towards the GOPe.
These are passionate times.
Cruz started out my number one. Now he’s number two. And since, Bush, Beck, and others have come into the mix, I find it difficult to keep him at number two.
And there really aren’t any other contenders for that spot.
If the GOPe screws us at the convention, I’ll never vote for anyone of them, ever again.
“Full disclosure: I voted for Cruz in the Texas primary. If Trump is the GOP nominee, I’ll vote for him in November.”
Let’s keep our sights on the real enemy of our Republic, the Dems (and, specifically, Clinton). If Clinton becomes President, it cements everything that Obama did into place...and then it gets worse - WAY worse. Our Republic may literally not survive.
Time to stop the senseless personal attacks, time to start discussing in a positive way what each candidate would do to help fix this country.